Spicing up F1

[clarki]

20 cars, 20 drivers, 20 tracks...everyone gets a go in each car!!

[entropy]

Qualifying session split into 4 periods:

Q4 involving the top 6, five minutes long so effectively a lap shoot out.


Or condense current quali into half an hour.

[parabolica]

Muzzer79 said:

Tazar said:

Just a suggestion but with so many F1 drivers and team members (some of those 2020 redundancies) being around why not :
3 cars a team.
Friday qualifying reducing 30 cars to 25.
Saturday qualifying reducing 25 to 20.
Two different liveries allowed in a team so the third driver can be supported and funded by a new sponsor.

This way it would be survival of the quickest and all those “how quick would *** be if he was in a ***” questions would be answered.

Based on this year, your grid would be:

3 x Mercedes
3 x Red Bulls
3 x McLarens
3 x Renaults
3 x Racing Points

No Ferrari (!) no Sauber, no Alpha Tauri, no Haas, no Williams.

How do you get to that? 3 cars per team mean 30 cars on the grid. Pretty Tazar just meant spots 21 - 30 are decided on Friday and Saturday - they still get to race (at least I think that is what he meant).

TBH only thing I would do is redesign some tracks, get rids of others and bring in some wildcards that had high likelihood of producing great overtaking. I think the budget cap is eventually going to help level the playing field a little, it's going to take some time tho and the best equiped teams are still going to be on top.

[Brainpox]

This year has shown that most of the issues are to do with the tracks they race at.

With this year being full of classic European circuits there has been some great racing in the midfield, with few exceptions.

Stick to decent tracks and the 2022 regs that should make it easier to follow cars closely and hopefully most of the problems would be resolved.

[breamster]

Keep mixing up the tracks each year. The variety this year has been great.

Reduce aero grip and have more mechanical.

How about hydraulic clutch pedals! Return to old school manual boxes!!

[Muzzer79]

parabolica said:

Muzzer79 said:

Tazar said:

Just a suggestion but with so many F1 drivers and team members (some of those 2020 redundancies) being around why not :
3 cars a team.
Friday qualifying reducing 30 cars to 25.
Saturday qualifying reducing 25 to 20.
Two different liveries allowed in a team so the third driver can be supported and funded by a new sponsor.

This way it would be survival of the quickest and all those “how quick would *** be if he was in a ***” questions would be answered.

Based on this year, your grid would be:

3 x Mercedes
3 x Red Bulls
3 x McLarens
3 x Renaults
3 x Racing Points

No Ferrari (!) no Sauber, no Alpha Tauri, no Haas, no Williams.

How do you get to that? 3 cars per team mean 30 cars on the grid. Pretty Tazar just meant spots 21 - 30 are decided on Friday and Saturday - they still get to race (at least I think that is what he meant).

I had (maybe incorrectly!) assumed he meant 'reducing' as in 'excluding'

30 car grids would be.......congested, especially in places like Monaco.

[Muzzer79]

entropy said:

Qualifying session split into 4 periods:

Q4 involving the top 6, five minutes long so effectively a lap shoot out.


Or condense current quali into half an hour.

Take this the right way please, but how would that spice things up?

Drivers rarely get it wrong, as in crashing, in Qualifying now so surely your Q4 would just be a repeat of the times in Q3?

I think that Qualifying is one of the things they shouldn't mess around with and works well as-is.

[Harry H]

Extend the season/ locations to include cold/hot, wet/dry races. Have a mix this year certainly changed things around.

The odd forced driver swap works as we know. How about each driver can only complete 90% of their races in the same car

[AJB88]

Success ballast like in BTCC.

[entropy]

Muzzer79 said:

Take this the right way please, but how would that spice things up?

Drivers rarely get it wrong, as in crashing, in Qualifying now so surely your Q4 would just be a repeat of the times in Q3?

I think that Qualifying is one of the things they shouldn't mess around with and works well as-is.

One lap shoot out, all-or-nothing for pole - more pressure, greater chance of error.

Q4 participants get an extra set of tyres of their choice that then must be handed back after the session.

[Munter]

All the exciting GPs are the ones with reduced grip.

So up the power and reduce the grip. I'd also be tempted to say only allow brakes to work on the rear wheels, like karts. That should increase the braking zones a touch.

Voila, exciting racing.

[Gary C]

Get rid of tarmac run off areas, have low grip gravel or grass at the edge with enough area to keep it safeish

Stop the preferential treatment of historic teams. equalise payments better, Ferrari should not get a free ride while being crap.

Allow more innovation rather than making all cars the same.

[thegreenhell]

Make F1 a winter series.

[citizensm1th]

Stop racing at any tilke designed race track.

[Mr Pointy]

Reading this barrage of drivel makes me realise why Bernie never gave a flying fk what the fans thought about F1.

Costs are crippling the majority of the teams & someone suggests 3 cars per team? What are you smoking?

[1Nathan]

Anyone who thinks F1 needs "spicing up" really isn't watching it properly. You watch a whole season and then make a judgement, not just the Abu Dhabi GP.

It's like football, some games are 0-0, some games are 5-4. It's the great moments throughout the season that make it compelling.

Just this season you've had Gasly winning by <1s from sainz, Norris on the podium, Perez winning a race, grosjean from the flames, all the drama with George at Bahrain 2, Hamilton winning a race with three wheels, and so many more.

I'd also liken it to a top class TV box set, where if you watched one episode in the middle of a season it would be crap and wouldn't make any sense, but if you watch the whole thing then it turns out to be amazing. F1 is like that.

[HustleRussell]

I think 2020 showed the way really. Seeing the teams and drivers having to deal with unfamiliar circuits and circuit conditions was great.

Also you cannot deny the trend of the racing being more competitive towards the end of a regulations cycle. The relative parity of engine performance was good this year.

It would be ideal to have a couple more teams.

On the sporting side its very good, although I think the debate needs to be had about closing the pitlane during SC periods so that the SC isn't such a hard reset. I know it occasionally mixes things up in a good way but as Abu Dhabi showed, with one stops being the norm, it often completely cancels any strategic element.

[DeejRC]

Ban front and rear wings. Job jobbed.

[Tazar]

My original post of three cars a team would allow Perez with his considerable backing could have a third Red Bull and Albon with his Thai / Red Bull backing could stay put. Likewise Kyviat with his Russian backing wouldn’t need to leave F1. Hulkenburg could find a seat also. M-B could run Russell and it would give some of the reserve drivers more to do on Friday.
There’s lots of drivers out there not getting opportunities.
Maybe Williams and Haas get the opportunity to run a previous years car from M-B or another leading team to be more competitive.

[Drawweight]

I was going to suggest stop changing the construction rules every couple of years and let the smaller teams catch up.

Then I realised if the smaller teams have started from a lower base level then they never will if the basic car is wrong from year 1.

I think if you could get the cars to a more even playing field that would be better racing but I'm buggered if I can think of how to do it without it taking away the development which makes it the premium class.