Favourite F1 cars 1980 onwards

[FourWheelDrift]

thiscocks said:

I prefer the 1991 Ligier though:

Spectacular with the orange highlights.

[sgtBerbatov]

FourWheelDrift said:

thiscocks said:

I prefer the 1991 Ligier though:

Spectacular with the orange highlights.

The last photo, we see the driver stunned with this thought in his head: "Did I leave the immersion on?"

[dr_gn]

sgtBerbatov said:

FourWheelDrift said:

thiscocks said:

I prefer the 1991 Ligier though:

Spectacular with the orange highlights.

The last photo, we see the driver stunned with this thought in his head: "Did I leave the immersion on?"

Comas had some monumental crashes in his Ligier days...Hockenheim as above, and Spa (where Senna stopped to tend to him) were the two that stick in the memory.

[Piginapoke]

Some fantastic Ligiers there. The 1991 car was as pretty as it was slow, sadly

And Comas really did have some big accidents. The 1992 crash at Blamchimont was huge; the picture with Senna is quite something.

[anonymous-user]

Always liked the Arrows A10.

Probably because Warwick and Cheever were a good driver pair - neither took it too seriously. Both could drive a bit, too.

Also because they were a real underdog, low budget, quite a low-tech car. But it pulled off some great results in the final turbo year.





Not a pretty car, but functional and purposeful.

[paulguitar]

Landcrab_Six said:

Warwick and Cheever were a good driver pair - neither took it too seriously.

Both of those guys took it as seriously as assassins.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

paulguitar said:

Landcrab_Six said:

Warwick and Cheever were a good driver pair - neither took it too seriously.

Both of those guys took it as seriously as assassins.

What a bizarre statement from Landcrab

[Piginapoke]

Landcrab_Six said:

Always liked the Arrows A10.

Probably because Warwick and Cheever were a good driver pair - neither took it too seriously. Both could drive a bit, too.

Also because they were a real underdog, low budget, quite a low-tech car. But it pulled off some great results in the final turbo year.





Not a pretty car, but functional and purposeful.

I always had an irrational dislike of that car, I think it’s to do with the roll hoop which is just all wrong.

Now the A11 was a pretty car.

[anonymous-user]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

paulguitar said:

Landcrab_Six said:

Warwick and Cheever were a good driver pair - neither took it too seriously.

Both of those guys took it as seriously as assassins.

What a bizarre statement from Landcrab

I always remember lots of smiles and revelling in being the plucky underdogs, especially when they got the car into places it shouldn't be.

But then F1 always seemed to take itself less seriously back then.

[FourWheelDrift]

Talking of Footwork, one car I really wanted to work was the 1991 Porsche V12 engined FA12, of that simple good looking design period. Shame the engine was overweight (60kg more than Ferrari's V12) and underpowered. I liked to use it in Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix though.



A rejuvenated Footwork FA13 appeared the following year with the Mugen-Honda engine and was regularly looking at points, using todays system with the points for top 10 this would have been a great regular point scorer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footwork_FA13

Compare the FA12 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footwork_FA12

[LaurasOtherHalf]

FourWheelDrift said:

the 1991 Porsche V12 engined FA12

There was a terrific article linked from this site about that (really sorry I can't recall where it's hosted) when Hans Mezger passed away. It was accepted as his only failure in a stellar career.

The car and colour scheme looked superb though!


Edited to add;
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/autosport-uk/201710...

Edited by LaurasOtherHalf on Wednesday 27th January 22:18

[Piginapoke]

Landcrab_Six said:

Always liked the Arrows A10.

Probably because Warwick and Cheever were a good driver pair - neither took it too seriously. Both could drive a bit, too.

Also because they were a real underdog, low budget, quite a low-tech car. But it pulled off some great results in the final turbo year.





Not a pretty car, but functional and purposeful.

Just to follow up, the I always liked the A11's super low sidepods, and the whole car seemed a quantum leap from the A10

[ajprice]

Another low sidepods car, the 1988 Rial ARC1

[TwentyFive]

I loved the simplicity of the 1993 Sauber C12.

Had the V10 Illmor branded Mercedes unit in the back and was driven by Wendlinger and Lehto.

[sgtBerbatov]

Piginapoke said:

Some fantastic Ligiers there. The 1991 car was as pretty as it was slow, sadly

And Comas really did have some big accidents. The 1992 crash at Blamchimont was huge; the picture with Senna is quite something.

Didn't he take to the track at Imola and drove round to see if he could help Senna, to repay the debt he felt he had?

[entropy]

Landcrab_Six said:

Always liked the Arrows A10.

Probably because Warwick and Cheever were a good driver pair - neither took it too seriously. Both could drive a bit, too.

Also because they were a real underdog, low budget, quite a low-tech car.

USF&G were/are a massive insurance company in America who pretty much bankrolled the team to the extent they renamed the defunct engine BMW program as Megatron - to promote its other company.

Can't remember if it was the A10 but Arrows were one of the few teams experimenting with bargeboards and aero aids around the front suspension.

[TwentyFive]

sgtBerbatov said:

Didn't he take to the track at Imola and drove round to see if he could help Senna, to repay the debt he felt he had?

No. It was merely a coincidence. Comas was mortified when he came around Tamburello to see the scene of Senna accident in front of him. The car was let out of the pitlane by mistake. So much so that he withdrew and didn't take the restart.

Coincidently my father drove that very Larrousse LH94 chassis at Magny Cours back in 2000 with a company called Wildside Adrenaline that was based at the track. Channel 4 were filming their TV show 'Driven' at the time and presenter Mike Brewer (better known for Wheeler Dealers) also drove the F1 car on the same day. It became a segment on the show. No doubt the footage from the episode will be online somewhere.

Edited by TwentyFive on Thursday 28th January 13:52

[FourWheelDrift]

sgtBerbatov said:

Didn't he take to the track at Imola and drove round to see if he could help Senna, to repay the debt he felt he had?

"Approximately 10 minutes after Senna's crash, the Larrousse team, which had been "concentrating on fixing Comas's car and didn't realise Senna had crashed", sent Comas to the end of the pit lane for release despite the circuit being closed under red flags. Comas described "a big confusion about whether (he) could rejoin", and that eventually the pit lane marshal allowed him onto the race course. Marshals frantically waved him down as he approached the scene of the accident travelling at close to full speed. Eurosport commentator John Watson described the incident as "the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen at any time in my life". Comas avoided hitting any of the people or cars that were on the circuit, but after seeing Senna's accident scene, Comas was so distressed that he withdrew from the race, and didn't speak of what he witnessed for more than 10 years."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDZuuGpz094

[Piginapoke]

FourWheelDrift said:

sgtBerbatov said:

Didn't he take to the track at Imola and drove round to see if he could help Senna, to repay the debt he felt he had?

"Approximately 10 minutes after Senna's crash, the Larrousse team, which had been "concentrating on fixing Comas's car and didn't realise Senna had crashed", sent Comas to the end of the pit lane for release despite the circuit being closed under red flags. Comas described "a big confusion about whether (he) could rejoin", and that eventually the pit lane marshal allowed him onto the race course. Marshals frantically waved him down as he approached the scene of the accident travelling at close to full speed. Eurosport commentator John Watson described the incident as "the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen at any time in my life". Comas avoided hitting any of the people or cars that were on the circuit, but after seeing Senna's accident scene, Comas was so distressed that he withdrew from the race, and didn't speak of what he witnessed for more than 10 years."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDZuuGpz094

I had forgotten about that. Dreadful by the marshals.

For those that haven't seen how Senna helped Comas, it's here: https://youtu.be/sbTrNKBAfI8

[DoubleD]

Piginapoke said:

I had forgotten about that. Dreadful by the marshals.

For those that haven't seen how Senna helped Comas, it's here: https://youtu.be/sbTrNKBAfI8

Why do you think that the marshals were dreadful? They got there just after Senna did.