The Official F1 2022 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2022 silly season *contains speculation*

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rival38

487 posts

146 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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Has this been speculated on already ?

Why not Checko to McLaren ?

A lesser team currently for Checko - but perhaps the Horner management style is becoming tiresome?

I think he would offer McLaren a lot, tyre management expert, proven race craft, passionate racer as well as team player. He would probably be cheaper than Danny R, who I think is now on borrowed time. McLaren need to max out the potential points haul their car can produce - Checko could be just the man for that, and if allowed to race his team mate properly he might go for it.

McAndy

12,524 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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rival38 said:
Why not Checko to McLaren ?
This would surprise me hugely. Checo currently has a chance of winning races, which has not been the case throughout his midfield career. He is probably fairly well paid now, and I imagine has increased sponsorship leverage.

My expectation for Checo is, rather than doing a Bottas, moving to the WEC post-F1. It is nothing more than a gut-feel, so don't ask me to justify that with facts or quotations! wink

HustleRussell

24,757 posts

161 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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vaud said:
MartG said:
The reason there isn't a replacement for the Russian GP...

https://trans.info/en/f1-grand-prix-brexit-289488
trans.info

The reference site for F1 news.
As a European international road haulage publication they are presumably better able to report on the nuances of that subject than any F1 publication you care to mention?

vaud

Original Poster:

50,685 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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HustleRussell said:
As a European international road haulage publication they are presumably better able to report on the nuances of that subject than any F1 publication you care to mention?
If it were the reason, wouldn't motorsport or autosport be covering it? Or Joe Saward?

MartG

20,702 posts

205 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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jsf said:
And if they wanted it, they would do it, just as they do now when multiple EU based events take place.

That really is a stretch to state that's the reason for this global multi billion $ circus.
Customs and cabotage paperwork for the planned calendar is submitted months in advance - it is not something which can be altered or added to at relatively short notice

2fast748

1,100 posts

196 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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vaud said:
If it were the reason, wouldn't motorsport or autosport be covering it? Or Joe Saward?
Joe is British, lives in France and complained about not being able to vote in the EU referendum so maybe it's too close to home or maybe he alluded to it in some of his missives and nobody is smart enough to understand what he said?!?

HustleRussell

24,757 posts

161 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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vaud said:
HustleRussell said:
As a European international road haulage publication they are presumably better able to report on the nuances of that subject than any F1 publication you care to mention?
If it were the reason, wouldn't motorsport or autosport be covering it? Or Joe Saward?
I suspect they will to some extent, although it will now be after it was reported in trans.info.

TheDeuce

21,890 posts

67 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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HustleRussell said:
vaud said:
HustleRussell said:
As a European international road haulage publication they are presumably better able to report on the nuances of that subject than any F1 publication you care to mention?
If it were the reason, wouldn't motorsport or autosport be covering it? Or Joe Saward?
I suspect they will to some extent, although it will now be after it was reported in trans.info.
I'm happy to take a trucker journos word for matters pertaining to trucking, which this is.

Assuming the rules as explained in the article are correct, that's not great for F1's future in Europe is it?

thegreenhell

15,500 posts

220 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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They might know about trucking, but do they know anything about F1?

Are the British team trucks heading back to base from Spain now before going back down to Monaco in time for next weekend? I know Monaco isn't strictly in the EU but most of the trucks actually have to park up in France because there isn't room for them in Monaco. What about the triple header in September? Will the trucks all have to come back twice in between those races on consecutive weekends?

If that is what they are doing, then surely another EU race would have been easier for them since they'd have a whole extra week to make that return trip, as it's a two week gap after Monza, not one week as for those other back-to-back races in the EU. Anyway, I think they'd be returning to base after Monza anyway rather than hanging around at another circuit for two weeks waiting for the next race.

Pflanzgarten

3,992 posts

26 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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McAndy said:
Checo currently has a chance of winning races
Debatable after yesterday wink

McAndy

12,524 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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Pflanzgarten said:
McAndy said:
Checo currently has a chance of winning races
Debatable after yesterday wink
Ouch. hehe I'm sure Max 's car will go "bang" again at some point this season!

thegreenhell

15,500 posts

220 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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He's clearly not going to be allowed to beat Max if they're sitting 1-2, but if he can keep his performances up as he is doing then sooner or later he'll pick up the occasional win due to unreliability or a mistake. Whereas it would take a small miracle for a McLaren to win anything at the moment.

I'm sure a lot of drivers would much rather be no2 in the best current team than no1 in a midfield team.

Blib

44,279 posts

198 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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TheDeuce said:
HustleRussell said:
vaud said:
HustleRussell said:
As a European international road haulage publication they are presumably better able to report on the nuances of that subject than any F1 publication you care to mention?
If it were the reason, wouldn't motorsport or autosport be covering it? Or Joe Saward?
I suspect they will to some extent, although it will now be after it was reported in trans.info.
I'm happy to take a trucker journos word for matters pertaining to trucking, which this is.

Assuming the rules as explained in the article are correct, that's not great for F1's future in Europe is it?
article said:
To try and get round the problem, the UK Government recently allowed vehicles to be switched between Great Britain and EU operator licences.

Although the decision will facilitate better EU access for events hauliers than they have had post-Brexit, entities will need to be established in the EU first – costing additional time and money.
Non problem. There is a get around. Unless the magazine suggests that F1 teams cannot afford both a UK and an EU licence?

SmoothCriminal

5,074 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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TheDeuce said:
HustleRussell said:
vaud said:
HustleRussell said:
As a European international road haulage publication they are presumably better able to report on the nuances of that subject than any F1 publication you care to mention?
If it were the reason, wouldn't motorsport or autosport be covering it? Or Joe Saward?
I suspect they will to some extent, although it will now be after it was reported in trans.info.
I'm happy to take a trucker journos word for matters pertaining to trucking, which this is.

Assuming the rules as explained in the article are correct, that's not great for F1's future in Europe is it?
The EU should change their rules then its not a UK problem

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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MartG said:
jsf said:
And if they wanted it, they would do it, just as they do now when multiple EU based events take place.

That really is a stretch to state that's the reason for this global multi billion $ circus.
Customs and cabotage paperwork for the planned calendar is submitted months in advance - it is not something which can be altered or added to at relatively short notice
Not True.

Give me half a day with of a list of parts and associated commodity codes and I'd have the ATA Carnet generated at the Chamber of Commerce and all the various documents for export created. You can register the details for shipment at the last hour before trip. It's 99% automated now, you upload the info via excel spreadsheet files online to generate the ATA Carnets and use the ferry companies online portals and a shipping agents online portals to create the MRN's etc.

I've been doing that since Brexit.

What takes the time is the initial list of parts creation with the associated commodity codes, an F1 team will have a file with that ready to go, an hour should do everything they need.

Dashnine

1,328 posts

51 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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The Sochi GP is (or would have been) a flyaway, so the truck cabotage issue is redundant unless they were looking at a eastern Europe GP (as Western Europe GPs are only a few hours drive anyway) and then it's a time issue to get the cars back and turned around before flying out to Singapore.

Deesee

8,475 posts

84 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Ouch!

TheDeuce

21,890 posts

67 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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SmoothCriminal said:
TheDeuce said:
HustleRussell said:
vaud said:
HustleRussell said:
As a European international road haulage publication they are presumably better able to report on the nuances of that subject than any F1 publication you care to mention?
If it were the reason, wouldn't motorsport or autosport be covering it? Or Joe Saward?
I suspect they will to some extent, although it will now be after it was reported in trans.info.
I'm happy to take a trucker journos word for matters pertaining to trucking, which this is.

Assuming the rules as explained in the article are correct, that's not great for F1's future in Europe is it?
The EU should change their rules then its not a UK problem
I think the EU post Brexit is very happy for the UK to be at a disadvantage in terms of movement and trade in general.

Of course they're not going to make life as easy for a country that abandoned the EU as they will for those that still subscribe.

Deesee

8,475 posts

84 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Dani Ricc and Mr Alonso could be out before the summer break.. woefully underperforming..

Replacements please… a McLaren and Enstone drive still mean something eh?

Sainz/Kmag back to McLaren and Gasly to Enstone?


ajprice

27,634 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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I said this in the Spain thread, but after Perez mouthing off about being sidelined for Max, I don't think he'll want to stay there in Max's shadow. I can see him walking like Ricciardo did and going to another team for 2023 if he gets shuffled back a few more times this season. Better to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond than in the same pond as Max/Horner/Marko. He's been in F1 a while now too, getting to the stage where he could be in with a newbie as the old hand teammate.