The Official F1 2022 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2022 silly season *contains speculation*

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vaud

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50,685 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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ajprice said:
I said this in the Spain thread, but after Perez mouthing off about being sidelined for Max, I don't think he'll want to stay there in Max's shadow. I can see him walking like Ricciardo did and going to another team for 2023 if he gets shuffled back a few more times this season. Better to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond than in the same pond as Max/Horner/Marko. He's been in F1 a while now too, getting to the stage where he could be in with a newbie as the old hand teammate.
No way you give up a race winning car to be a leader in the midfield.

thegreenhell

15,500 posts

220 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Perez doesn't have enough pull to get into himself into another race winning car. He'd be mad to throw away the one he has now.

HustleRussell

24,757 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Thought Perez was 34+.

He doesn't turn 33 until January.

I don't see why Red Bull would move him on in the short term, he's doing a great job. They don't seem interested in doing anything with Gasly, and Tsunoda even less so.

CoolHands

18,744 posts

196 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Deesee said:
Dani Ricc and Mr Alonso could be out before the summer break.. woefully underperforming..
Alonso?

Pflanzgarten

3,992 posts

26 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Deesee said:
Dani Ricc and Mr Alonso could be out before the summer break.. woefully underperforming..

Replacements please… a McLaren and Enstone drive still mean something eh?

Sainz/Kmag back to McLaren and Gasly to Enstone?
Gasly to Enstone I can imagine but if a seat opens up in McLaren it'll be an American who gets it. It's all about the $$$$

Sandpit Steve

10,157 posts

75 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Pflanzgarten said:
Deesee said:
Dani Ricc and Mr Alonso could be out before the summer break.. woefully underperforming..

Replacements please… a McLaren and Enstone drive still mean something eh?

Sainz/Kmag back to McLaren and Gasly to Enstone?
Gasly to Enstone I can imagine but if a seat opens up in McLaren it'll be an American who gets it. It's all about the $$$$
Colton Herta to McLaren, and Oscar Piastri to Renault?

thegreenhell

15,500 posts

220 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Deesee said:
Dani Ricc and Mr Alonso could be out before the summer break.. woefully underperforming..

Replacements please… a McLaren and Enstone drive still mean something eh?

Sainz/Kmag back to McLaren and Gasly to Enstone?
Isn't Piastri the replacement-in-waiting at Alpine? And I thought Gasly and Ocon were supposedly definitely not friends with each other, so it would be brave to put them in the same team together.

Pflanzgarten

3,992 posts

26 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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thegreenhell said:
Isn't Piastri the replacement-in-waiting at Alpine? And I thought Gasly and Ocon were supposedly definitely not friends with each other, so it would be brave to put them in the same team together.
They most certainly aren't but despite his one victory, Ocon hasn't really set the world on fire. If it were me, I'd rather have Gasly and Piastri.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Pflanzgarten said:
thegreenhell said:
Isn't Piastri the replacement-in-waiting at Alpine? And I thought Gasly and Ocon were supposedly definitely not friends with each other, so it would be brave to put them in the same team together.
They most certainly aren't but despite his one victory, Ocon hasn't really set the world on fire. If it were me, I'd rather have Gasly and Piastri.
Even when Alonso hasn't DNF'd, he's finished 2,10,3 and 2 places behind Ocon.

carl_w

9,205 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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talksthetorque said:
Even when Alonso hasn't DNF'd, he's finished 2,10,3 and 2 places behind Ocon.
Probably a deliberate strategy by the "wily old fox" Alonso, if you're to believe Sky.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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carl_w said:
talksthetorque said:
Even when Alonso hasn't DNF'd, he's finished 2,10,3 and 2 places behind Ocon.
Probably a deliberate strategy by the "wily old fox" Alonso, if you're to believe Sky.
Damn. I didn't spot that - he's so cunning.

Pflanzgarten

3,992 posts

26 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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talksthetorque said:
Pflanzgarten said:
thegreenhell said:
Isn't Piastri the replacement-in-waiting at Alpine? And I thought Gasly and Ocon were supposedly definitely not friends with each other, so it would be brave to put them in the same team together.
They most certainly aren't but despite his one victory, Ocon hasn't really set the world on fire. If it were me, I'd rather have Gasly and Piastri.
Even when Alonso hasn't DNF'd, he's finished 2,10,3 and 2 places behind Ocon.
The insinuation being that Alonso is any kind of benchmark these days? I actually like Ocon, though again despite his win I thought he showed more promise in his first stint than what's been seen this last couple of years.

He deserves his place on the grid but if it was my team I'd rather Gasly and Piastri, both of whom look special to me-not as special as the special ones but every bit as good as some recent memory world champions (yes I know Piastri's is all lower formula stuff but that record is bloody good).

PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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vaud said:
No way you give up a race winning car to be a leader in the midfield.
Is it still a race winning car if you're not allowed to win any races in it?

vaud

Original Poster:

50,685 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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PhillipM said:
Is it still a race winning car if you're not allowed to win any races in it?
Yes. Especially if the team mate drops out. Race drivers want to be in the fastest car.
Many accept that they are also no 2 (Rubens, Felipe, etc) and only have a few races to be P1

thegreenhell

15,500 posts

220 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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PhillipM said:
vaud said:
No way you give up a race winning car to be a leader in the midfield.
Is it still a race winning car if you're not allowed to win any races in it?
He is allowed to win, just not to beat Max in a Red bull 1-2. Had there been any other cars in between the two before the switch then it was Perez's race to win.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Speculation here. Alpine have had a bit of an average start to the season and for whatever reason Alonso has few points compared to
Ocon. I can see a situation where they let him go as they seem to be that sort of team and have to blame someone every year.
They seem to be doing a poor job on his pitstops and strategy lately. Missed qualifying due to a mixup in time left in this recent race.
It must be exasperating being one of the few top drivers in F1 and driving cars that will never be the best.
Hopefully they up their game for the remaining races but I think any new contract will be very late coming.
If they decide to sling Piastri in that buys them a couple of years treading water as he's 'new' just like all the allowance given
to shumi jr.

glazbagun

14,285 posts

198 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Alpine have lost Prost, Ricciardo & Abiteboul but gained an Otmar who was with FI the whole time they punched above their weight. Given the latter's VFM background I do wonder at their position on paying Alonso $20M, great as he is, when they could have Piastri & save some cash, though I guess the cost cap will be helping their bottom line.

Sandpit Steve

10,157 posts

75 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Fundoreen said:
Speculation here. Alpine have had a bit of an average start to the season and for whatever reason Alonso has few points compared to
Ocon. I can see a situation where they let him go as they seem to be that sort of team and have to blame someone every year.
They seem to be doing a poor job on his pitstops and strategy lately. Missed qualifying due to a mixup in time left in this recent race.
It must be exasperating being one of the few top drivers in F1 and driving cars that will never be the best.
Hopefully they up their game for the remaining races but I think any new contract will be very late coming.
If they decide to sling Piastri in that buys them a couple of years treading water as he's 'new' just like all the allowance given to shumi jr.
Forgive me the wry smile, at stories about Alonso and time left qualifying ‘mixups’. He’s the expert on those. wink

PhilAsia

3,877 posts

76 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
Fundoreen said:
Speculation here. Alpine have had a bit of an average start to the season and for whatever reason Alonso has few points compared to
Ocon. I can see a situation where they let him go as they seem to be that sort of team and have to blame someone every year.
They seem to be doing a poor job on his pitstops and strategy lately. Missed qualifying due to a mixup in time left in this recent race.
It must be exasperating being one of the few top drivers in F1 and driving cars that will never be the best.
Hopefully they up their game for the remaining races but I think any new contract will be very late coming.
If they decide to sling Piastri in that buys them a couple of years treading water as he's 'new' just like all the allowance given to shumi jr.
Forgive me the wry smile, at stories about Alonso and time left qualifying ‘mixups’. He’s the expert on those. wink
Perhaps use the Lewis three watch solution for sector times?

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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PhilAsia said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Fundoreen said:
Speculation here. Alpine have had a bit of an average start to the season and for whatever reason Alonso has few points compared to
Ocon. I can see a situation where they let him go as they seem to be that sort of team and have to blame someone every year.
They seem to be doing a poor job on his pitstops and strategy lately. Missed qualifying due to a mixup in time left in this recent race.
It must be exasperating being one of the few top drivers in F1 and driving cars that will never be the best.
Hopefully they up their game for the remaining races but I think any new contract will be very late coming.
If they decide to sling Piastri in that buys them a couple of years treading water as he's 'new' just like all the allowance given to shumi jr.
Forgive me the wry smile, at stories about Alonso and time left qualifying ‘mixups’. He’s the expert on those. wink
Perhaps use the Lewis three watch solution for sector times?
Its amazing how much control over everything people think someone driving an F1 car has. Most are let down by a team making poor descisions.
Alonso probably the architect of his own misfortune as they keep saying he's so good at race strategy that everyone in the Alpine
team probably has a nap during the race.
As I said the get out clause for all these rubbish teams is blame the driver to buy yourself a few years more wages.
Football knows best here. You change the support team/manager till you get better results.