The Official F1 2022 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2022 silly season *contains speculation*

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Milkyway

9,445 posts

53 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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paulguitar said:
If he's your favourite you could learn how to spell his name. wink
thumbup ... Busted
( But I do love Interceptors, if that helps) getmecoat


Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 26th May 14:13

TheDeuce

21,579 posts

66 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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vaud said:
Joey Deacon said:
Can we have a new 2023 silly season thread please?
Done!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
This one's still relevant though. Latifi hasn't been sacked yet...

Muzzer79

9,987 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Fundoreen said:
A half decent driver in a good team can win the f2 and f3 titles. Doesnt mean they will be a great F1 driver. They come along very rarely.
The much maligned Latifi has won 6 f2 races. I guess in a better car he would look a bit better than he does now.
A lot of the hype surrounding Piastri centres around the fact that he won the F3 title at his first attempt, then the F2 title at his first attempt.

Latifi had 3 years in F2 and his best championship finish was 2nd in his final year.

Other drivers who won F2 (or equivalent) at their first attempt since 2005?

Charles LeClerc
George Russell
Nico Hulkenburg
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Rosberg

All F1 drivers......

Of those, only LeClerc and Russell won the F3 series on first attempt aswell.

Winning F2 is not a guarantee of a good F1 driver (several examples) but the way you win it is a good indication.

paulguitar

23,444 posts

113 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Milkyway said:
paulguitar said:
If he's your favourite you could learn how to spell his name. wink
thumbup ... Busted
( But I do love Interceptors, if that helps) getmecoat


Edited by Milkyway on Thursday 26th May 14:13
hehe

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
Fundoreen said:
A half decent driver in a good team can win the f2 and f3 titles. Doesnt mean they will be a great F1 driver. They come along very rarely.
The much maligned Latifi has won 6 f2 races. I guess in a better car he would look a bit better than he does now.
A lot of the hype surrounding Piastri centres around the fact that he won the F3 title at his first attempt, then the F2 title at his first attempt.

Latifi had 3 years in F2 and his best championship finish was 2nd in his final year.

Other drivers who won F2 (or equivalent) at their first attempt since 2005?

Charles LeClerc
George Russell
Nico Hulkenburg
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Rosberg

All F1 drivers......

Of those, only LeClerc and Russell won the F3 series on first attempt aswell.

Winning F2 is not a guarantee of a good F1 driver (several examples) but the way you win it is a good indication.
I guess thats an impressive list. I cant help seeing F2 and F3 as soft series full of people you will never hear of again. They
just seem to exist to try and hook sponsorship when someone from an obscure but rich country mysteriously does well.



thegreenhell

15,359 posts

219 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Muzzer79 said:
Winning F2 is not a guarantee of a good F1 driver (several examples) but the way you win it is a good indication.
It's certainly a good indicator.

F1 drivers who won GP2/F2 at the first attempt - 6, including 2 WDC and 2 widely-tipped future WDC.
F1 drivers who won GP2/F2 after multiple attempts - 11, with a combined total of 2 F1 wins between them (Maldonado and Gasly).
F1 drivers who did GP2/F2 without winning series - 34, combined total of 3 F1 wins between them (1 for Kovalainen, 2 for Perez).

Three GP2/F2 champions after multiple attempts have never even raced in F1.

HustleRussell

24,706 posts

160 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Also the depth of talent in F2 and F3 varies from year to year. 'The Race' and other journos who track the road to F1 tend to opine on this. They tend to reflect quite nostalgically upon 2018 with Russell, Norris and Albon 1, 2 & 3.

Muzzer79

9,987 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Fundoreen said:
Muzzer79 said:
Fundoreen said:
A half decent driver in a good team can win the f2 and f3 titles. Doesnt mean they will be a great F1 driver. They come along very rarely.
The much maligned Latifi has won 6 f2 races. I guess in a better car he would look a bit better than he does now.
A lot of the hype surrounding Piastri centres around the fact that he won the F3 title at his first attempt, then the F2 title at his first attempt.

Latifi had 3 years in F2 and his best championship finish was 2nd in his final year.

Other drivers who won F2 (or equivalent) at their first attempt since 2005?

Charles LeClerc
George Russell
Nico Hulkenburg
Lewis Hamilton
Nico Rosberg

All F1 drivers......

Of those, only LeClerc and Russell won the F3 series on first attempt aswell.

Winning F2 is not a guarantee of a good F1 driver (several examples) but the way you win it is a good indication.
I guess thats an impressive list. I cant help seeing F2 and F3 as soft series full of people you will never hear of again.
The only current F1 drivers who didn't do F2 or F3 (or equivalent series) are:

Daniel Ricciardo (straight from Formula Renault 3.5 to F1)
Carlos Sainz (straight from Formula Renault 3.5 to F1)
Sebastian Vettel (straight from Formula Renault 3.5 to F1)

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

83 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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I think its established you dont win f1 titles without being in the fastest car. There are not many in the 20 drivers that would manage it without failing at critical moments.
But enough bashing these hopefuls. Pastrami should get a go. Must be a reason for Aussies to hang on in quiet desperation.
I dont think Alpines trajectory is as promising as say Aston Martin so if they exit Alonso it would be a delight watching him snapped up by AM and beating the trecherous french team every week.

stemll

4,107 posts

200 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Fundoreen said:
I think its established you dont win f1 titles without being in the fastest car. There are not many in the 20 drivers that would manage it without failing at critical moments.
But enough bashing these hopefuls. Pastrami should get a go. Must be a reason for Aussies to hang on in quiet desperation.
I dont think Alpines trajectory is as promising as say Aston Martin so if they exit Alonso it would be a delight watching him snapped up by AM and beating the trecherous french team every week.
Hmm Stroll Snr and Alonso. What could possibly go wrong with that?

Stan the Bat

8,929 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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stemll said:
Fundoreen said:
I think its established you dont win f1 titles without being in the fastest car. There are not many in the 20 drivers that would manage it without failing at critical moments.
But enough bashing these hopefuls. Pastrami should get a go. Must be a reason for Aussies to hang on in quiet desperation.
I dont think Alpines trajectory is as promising as say Aston Martin so if they exit Alonso it would be a delight watching him snapped up by AM and beating the trecherous french team every week.
Hmm Stroll Snr and Alonso. What could possibly go wrong with that?
"FIGHT"

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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vaud said:
Milkyway said:
Grojean has unfinished business, I reckon that he will back... one day. scratchchin
I think he is having far more fun in the US. So many more people to crash into.
The Yanks are starting to get grumpy about him now. The honeymoon Pheonix from the flames bullst has worn off. laugh