Official 2021 Grand Prix Support races thread (F2, F3 & W)

[TheDeuce]

I can hardly believe F3 got through a wet qualifying at Spa almost without incident..

Good result for the championship too.

[GadgeS3C]

Hoping everyone Ok in the W series crash - looked scary.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/92252/red-flag-afte...

[paulguitar]

GadgeS3C said:

Hoping everyone Ok in the W series crash - looked scary.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/92252/red-flag-afte...

Oil on the track?

[Flooble]

They have resumed qualifying so I take that as hopeful no-one was hurt.

[thegreenhell]

W Series confirmed all drivers are okay and said it would issue a full update on the incident shortly.

[TheDeuce]

paulguitar said:

GadgeS3C said:

Hoping everyone Ok in the W series crash - looked scary.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/92252/red-flag-afte...

Oil on the track?

Any advance on this theory? the grainy video I have seen doesn't give any other clue as to why four separate cars would spin off in near identical fashion

[df76]

TheDeuce said:

paulguitar said:

GadgeS3C said:

Hoping everyone Ok in the W series crash - looked scary.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/92252/red-flag-afte...

Oil on the track?

Any advance on this theory? the grainy video I have seen doesn't give any other clue as to why four separate cars would spin off in near identical fashion

It had just started to rain on that part of the track.

[TheDeuce]

df76 said:

TheDeuce said:

paulguitar said:

GadgeS3C said:

Hoping everyone Ok in the W series crash - looked scary.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/92252/red-flag-afte...

Oil on the track?

Any advance on this theory? the grainy video I have seen doesn't give any other clue as to why four separate cars would spin off in near identical fashion

It had just started to rain on that part of the track.

Thanks. It must have been very little rain though - a bit weird six cars in succession give it up like that.

[GadgeS3C]

TheDeuce said:

df76 said:

TheDeuce said:

paulguitar said:

GadgeS3C said:

Hoping everyone Ok in the W series crash - looked scary.

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/92252/red-flag-afte...

Oil on the track?

Any advance on this theory? the grainy video I have seen doesn't give any other clue as to why four separate cars would spin off in near identical fashion

It had just started to rain on that part of the track.

Thanks. It must have been very little rain though - a bit weird six cars in succession give it up like that.

Thanks. I wondered the same.

[Sandpit Steve]

Just catching up, that looked like a horrible accident as they all went off in the rain in the W Series qualy session. Thankfully it looks like no serious injuries.

https://wseries.com/w-hub/w-series-spa-incident-up...

[TheDeuce]

I've just watched the whole session now I'm home. For anyone that hasn't seen it, here is the incident in real time as opposed to the earlier slowed down footage shared on social https://youtu.be/6rf4Kw8Sb2I?t=4035

It's unbelievably brutal and cruel the way the cars shared one collision after another. Amazing everyone is 'OK'.

[Sandpit Steve]

TheDeuce said:

I've just watched the whole session now I'm home. For anyone that hasn't seen it, here is the incident in real time as opposed to the earlier slowed down footage shared on social https://youtu.be/6rf4Kw8Sb2I?t=4035

It's unbelievably brutal and cruel the way the cars shared one collision after another. Amazing everyone is 'OK'.

The most worrying thing watching that back from when it actually happened (10’15” on the video) is that there were 12 seconds between the first car in the wall and the red flags been shown, by which time the accident sequence had finished. The fact that this corner is unsighted and often produces secondary accidents was discussed at length in the F1 race thread, but I can’t help the feeling that a very fast red flag might have kept of a couple of those cars out of the accident.

Beitske Visser (Car 95) was one of those who ended up in the hospital, she’s been on Twitter to say she’s a bit bruised but otherwise uninjured - after three separate impacts that left her car upside-down in the middle of the track.
https://twitter.com/beitskevisser/status/143135265...

Ayla Agren (Car 17) was also taken to the hospital. The other four drivers were all okay.

Watching it in slow motion, there’s at least a couple of points where a Halo gets hit by a wheel, the safety device doing its job of preventing impacts to the drivers’ helmets.

On the track, Jamie Chadwick was in a class of her own there, 0.7s quicker than Alice Powell and more than a second up on the rest of the field. Faster than the FIA F3 cars too, as they had to qualify in the rain (W runs the same car, but different tyres).

[Roofless Toothless]

Flag Marshals on post cannot instigate a red flag on their own volition. Try that and it will the last time you ever get to wave the flags.

The red flag is called from race control, and usually is shown first from the start line and then from post to post round the track. This may take some seconds.

The incident was adequately signalled with waved yellows. I can’t see how a quicker red flag would have carried any more of a message to the drivers than is implied in a waved yellow.

[WonkeyDonkey]

F3 looking rather wet

[louiechevy]

And red flagged before it officially started!

[Sandpit Steve]

Roofless Toothless said:

Flag Marshals on post cannot instigate a red flag on their own volition. Try that and it will the last time you ever get to wave the flags.

The red flag is called from race control, and usually is shown first from the start line and then from post to post round the track. This may take some seconds.

The incident was adequately signalled with waved yellows. I can’t see how a quicker red flag would have carried any more of a message to the drivers than is implied in a waved yellow.

Oh of course it needs to come from race control. What I was trying to say was, given the history of this sequence of corners, race control need to have a permanent view of it on their screens. It was always going to be a red flag during the practice session, as soon as the first car went off. With the light boxes and radios, it would only take a second or two, to promulgate the message to all the marshal posts.

We all know that drivers have a habit of lifting off the minimum possible, in response to yellow flags. Whether we should police that better is a different question.

[robscot]

Can't see this getting going if its unsafe now.

[louiechevy]

Take two and its probably raining harder than the first attempt!

[TheDeuce]

robscot said:

Can't see this getting going if its unsafe now.

They're gonna try at least...



Looks shocking tbf.

[anonymous-user]

Should green flag this. It’s very wet but it’s not Canada 2011.

And if they’re not starting it because of Raidillon, well they better start making some plans to modify the corner for next year.