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LukeBrown66 said:
One thing I can always guarantee is that when there is a discussion about Senna or even Schumacher, there will be a majority who worship the men and a small number who do not, and actually think they are a little bit not over rated but put on a pedestal that their talent does not deserve.
And if you state this, there will usually be people calling you out for it, and using all sorts of rather unsavoury words against you, as has happened to me and Eric in this thread.
Prost does not get into this as he was not exciting, not flamboyant, he was studious, political to some degree. But what a lot of people do not know, is he fell foul of the press and politics as many times as he won.
The friendship these two had in the end was a massive bonus for Alain, it made everything alright, he understood it ALL. And that is what matters. At the time the hatred was real, it was huge and it was the biggest thing in the sport, add in stuff like Mansell, Piquet, Schumacher on the scene, the tech, the cars and it is no wonder that despite the fact the racing was not always great, that era is always quoted as the best
Jesus wept Luke, no one on this thread has said anything about hero worship other than you and Eric! you’re simply taking a contrary position to something no one has actually put forward but are now acting like the victim because you were called out.And if you state this, there will usually be people calling you out for it, and using all sorts of rather unsavoury words against you, as has happened to me and Eric in this thread.
Prost does not get into this as he was not exciting, not flamboyant, he was studious, political to some degree. But what a lot of people do not know, is he fell foul of the press and politics as many times as he won.
The friendship these two had in the end was a massive bonus for Alain, it made everything alright, he understood it ALL. And that is what matters. At the time the hatred was real, it was huge and it was the biggest thing in the sport, add in stuff like Mansell, Piquet, Schumacher on the scene, the tech, the cars and it is no wonder that despite the fact the racing was not always great, that era is always quoted as the best
I’ll make it easy for you, I think Senna was one of the greatest, I supported him with a passion no more or less than others supposed Mansell, Senna was definitely top five all time, he made mistakes and was human, he didn’t always race fair and he wasn’t a god.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
I can't see the issue about wanting to debate what happened to Senna.
The Williams was a skittish car but in slow corners. Both Hill and Senna made mistakes during practice and qualifying sessions. Hill spun the Williams on the last corner at Imola twice but all at low speed. Senna did the same at Villeneuve at low speed.
Regarding the cold tyres if this was the case then why did Senna not crash on the first restart lap? He set the lap record on that last lap which was only beaten later in the 2nd race. A lap of Imola would have had the tyres at the perfect temperature before the accident.
The simple fact is Senna was a passenger in the Williams after the car had an issue. The verdict as follows.
The Italian Court of Appeal, on 13 April 2007, stated the following in the verdict numbered 15050: "It has been determined that the accident was caused by a steering column failure. This failure was caused by badly designed and badly executed modifications. The responsibility of this falls on Patrick Head, culpable of omitted control".
Fatal WeekendThe Williams was a skittish car but in slow corners. Both Hill and Senna made mistakes during practice and qualifying sessions. Hill spun the Williams on the last corner at Imola twice but all at low speed. Senna did the same at Villeneuve at low speed.
Regarding the cold tyres if this was the case then why did Senna not crash on the first restart lap? He set the lap record on that last lap which was only beaten later in the 2nd race. A lap of Imola would have had the tyres at the perfect temperature before the accident.
The simple fact is Senna was a passenger in the Williams after the car had an issue. The verdict as follows.
The Italian Court of Appeal, on 13 April 2007, stated the following in the verdict numbered 15050: "It has been determined that the accident was caused by a steering column failure. This failure was caused by badly designed and badly executed modifications. The responsibility of this falls on Patrick Head, culpable of omitted control".
by Tom Rubython (Author)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fatal-Weekend-Tom-Rubytho...
I can't recommend this book enough. It covers that Italian judgment and doesn't disagree with it.
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