Official 2021 Spanish Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**

[Graveworm]

I wonder if Merc going earlier was to confuse a direct comparison.

[TheDeuce]

Are they allowed to change PU modes in FP3..? If not, Max did a great job of hiding that half second all session until the very end!

This is going to be so close. I think Lewis will take it as he has quite a bit still to string together - but that's a loose prediction, I'm not that confident

[95 fiesta si]

M5-911 said:

You have your answer.

Yea as I posted max smashes a lap on on softs LOL

Still don’t know if can beat Lewis to the Pole but atleast we know hi.s in with a chance cause they looked nowhere.

Interesting to see a Ferrari McLaren battle. Wonder which if the 2 will have the race pace.

[TheDeuce]

After all the complaining about this circuit (fair enough..) it looks like it's about to deliver probably one of the most thrilling quali sessions of the season. And in all likelihood, he who is P1 will go on to win tomorrow - so the result today really, really matters

[n3il123]

TheDeuce said:

After all the complaining about this circuit (fair enough..) it looks like it's about to deliver probably one of the most thrilling quali sessions of the season. And in all likelihood, he who is P1 will go on to win tomorrow - so the result today really, really matters

Unless it is Bottas or Perez...

[TheDeuce]

n3il123 said:

TheDeuce said:

After all the complaining about this circuit (fair enough..) it looks like it's about to deliver probably one of the most thrilling quali sessions of the season. And in all likelihood, he who is P1 will go on to win tomorrow - so the result today really, really matters

Unless it is Bottas or Perez...

True..

Can't see Perez getting to P1 though, it would require both Lewis, Bottas and Max to screw up. I have to say Bottas could do it, as he does on occasion beat even Lewis. Overall though, when under pressure from Max Lewis has a habit of pulling out an absolute blinder of a lap.

[PD9]

Sandpit Steve said:

Max complaining about how quick Lewis can go in the last sector. Half a second between them in that twisty final part of the circuit.

Sounded more like a compliment to me..

[Deesee]

TheDeuce said:

Are they allowed to change PU modes in FP3..?

No the start of FP3 is Parc Ferme now, but they can press overtake and empty the ERS, the Honda has a 'supercharger' mode where the ERS drives the split turbo, it's very audible on the AT when on an onboard, Honda has this mode for roughly a 1/3rd of the lap in Quali and if they are chasing down a position.

Edit for clarity, the ERS is available roughly 1/3 lap to deploy, the full Maximum (full deploy) is roughly 7 seconds..

Video showing this..

https://streamable.com/p0r7s6

Edited by Deesee on Saturday 8th May 13:15

[TheDeuce]

Deesee said:

TheDeuce said:

Are they allowed to change PU modes in FP3..?

No the start of FP3 is Parc Ferme now, but they can press overtake and empty the ERS, the Honda has a 'supercharger' mode where the ERS drives the split turbo, it's very audible on the AT when on an onboard, Honda has this mode for roughly a 1/3rd of the lap in Quali and if they are chasing down a position.

Edit for clarity, the ERS is available roughly 1/3 lap to deploy, the full Maximum (full deploy) is roughly 7 seconds..

Video showing this..

https://streamable.com/p0r7s6

Edited by Deesee on Saturday 8th May 13:15

Ahh... So he simply had to not deploy it until towards the end to mask his true pace - makes sense.

Awesome video too - you really can hear turbo rpm shoot up Any idea what rpm the turbo achieves at max??

[Sandpit Steve]

PD9 said:

Sandpit Steve said:

Max complaining about how quick Lewis can go in the last sector. Half a second between them in that twisty final part of the circuit.

Sounded more like a compliment to me..

Yeah, he was wondering how Lewis managed to be so much quicker there, although he did find some pace later. Looks like RB have a lower downforce setup than Merc this weekend, they are faster on the straights but struggling through the slower corners.

Neither of them got a totally clean lap in P3, even if they were the fastest two cars. Plenty of time to come at the business end of qualifying, if they can keep the tyres working for the whole lap.

[Deesee]

TheDeuce said:

Ahh... So he simply had to not deploy it until towards the end to mask his true pace - makes sense.

Awesome video too - you really can hear turbo rpm shoot up Any idea what rpm the turbo achieves at max??

Bottom right screen shows gear and revs, out of turn 2 he short shifts up three gears at around 10500/11000 rpm, the turbo is said to be 125k rpm. You can hear the pitch change.

[Graveworm]

Deesee said:

No the start of FP3 is Parc Ferme now, but they can press overtake and empty the ERS, the Honda has a 'supercharger' mode where the ERS drives the split turbo, it's very audible on the AT when on an onboard, Honda has this mode for roughly a 1/3rd of the lap in Quali and if they are chasing down a position.

Edit for clarity, the ERS is available roughly 1/3 lap to deploy, the full Maximum (full deploy) is roughly 7 seconds..

Video showing this..

https://streamable.com/p0r7s6

Edited by Deesee on Saturday 8th May 13:15

Are you sure? I thought engine modes were fixed from 1st practice not the start of FP3. Sky just said that Alpine had their engine mode turned down for FP3 and expect to turn it back up for qualifying.

Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 8th May 13:42

[TheDeuce]

Deesee said:

TheDeuce said:

Ahh... So he simply had to not deploy it until towards the end to mask his true pace - makes sense.

Awesome video too - you really can hear turbo rpm shoot up Any idea what rpm the turbo achieves at max??

Bottom right screen shows gear and revs, out of turn 2 he short shifts up three gears at around 10500/11000 rpm, the turbo is said to be 125k rpm. You can hear the pitch change.

The Merc TC reaches 125k too - from the pitch the Honda TC sounded higher than that.

[vulture1]

Deesee said:

Here is the update for the PU situations as we are now in Parc Ferme conditions.

No further parts taken apart from Alpine, with Alonso on his 4th of 8 exhausts for the season, what are Alpine up to in there?

Hmmmm,

Maybe they have found a way to burn bits of the exhaust as additional fuel...

[Deesee]

vulture1 said:

Deesee said:

Here is the update for the PU situations as we are now in Parc Ferme conditions.

No further parts taken apart from Alpine, with Alonso on his 4th of 8 exhausts for the season, what are Alpine up to in there?

Hmmmm,

Maybe they have found a way to burn bits of the exhaust as additional fuel...

[Deesee]

TheDeuce said:

Deesee said:

TheDeuce said:

Ahh... So he simply had to not deploy it until towards the end to mask his true pace - makes sense.

Awesome video too - you really can hear turbo rpm shoot up Any idea what rpm the turbo achieves at max??

Bottom right screen shows gear and revs, out of turn 2 he short shifts up three gears at around 10500/11000 rpm, the turbo is said to be 125k rpm. You can hear the pitch change.

The Merc TC reaches 125k too - from the pitch the Honda TC sounded higher than that.

I think it's the Mic position that 'enhances' the sound, of all the cars the AT does seem to sound the 'best'.

[SpudLink]

Deesee said:

vulture1 said:

Deesee said:

Here is the update for the PU situations as we are now in Parc Ferme conditions.

No further parts taken apart from Alpine, with Alonso on his 4th of 8 exhausts for the season, what are Alpine up to in there?

Hmmmm,

Maybe they have found a way to burn bits of the exhaust as additional fuel...

If they could, they probably would.

[Deesee]

Graveworm said:

Deesee said:

No the start of FP3 is Parc Ferme now, but they can press overtake and empty the ERS, the Honda has a 'supercharger' mode where the ERS drives the split turbo, it's very audible on the AT when on an onboard, Honda has this mode for roughly a 1/3rd of the lap in Quali and if they are chasing down a position.

Edit for clarity, the ERS is available roughly 1/3 lap to deploy, the full Maximum (full deploy) is roughly 7 seconds..

Video showing this..

https://streamable.com/p0r7s6

Edited by Deesee on Saturday 8th May 13:15

Are you sure? I thought engine modes were fixed from 1st practice not the start of FP3. Sky just said that Alpine had their engine mode turned down for FP3 and expect to turn it back up for qualifying.

Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 8th May 13:42

I may well be wrong, my understanding is the mode used in Qualifying Practice has to be the same as the Grand Prix race for mode map selected.

I have not tuned into the broadcast yet, but I'm pretty sure FP3 is now Parc Ferme in 2021, I'm sure they can run varying modes in FP1/FP2, ill check the regs later tonight.

[Drive Blind]

whats the reasons behind the changes to track layout at T10 ?

[Man-At-Arms]

Here’s turn19 that MBrundle is referring to
https://youtu.be/a8XzXMLVS4U