Official 2021 Styrian and Austrian GP thread **SPOILERS**
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Flooble said:
vaud said:
Flooble said:
Touch harsh! But I think we can be confident that he won't make any places up during the race.
Seems fair given the potential outcomes.TheDeuce said:
Flooble said:
vaud said:
Flooble said:
Touch harsh! But I think we can be confident that he won't make any places up during the race.
Seems fair given the potential outcomes.Flooble said:
TheDeuce said:
Flooble said:
vaud said:
Flooble said:
Touch harsh! But I think we can be confident that he won't make any places up during the race.
Seems fair given the potential outcomes.But in general, agreed. He at best holds steady and with any tiny upset generally slips back..
Merc seem to be slipping into the position that RB have been in for the last couple of years, one driver performing at the front whilst the other cant be used properly because they are out of position, Perez has certainly helped RB to have 2 cars fighting at the front to give more options
Sandpit Steve said:
Jasandjules said:
I think he has got a 3 place Grid Penalty along with 2 points on his license. That will screw up the Merc strategy before Quali has even begun!
Yup. Three place drop for dangerous driving. https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-d...
ajprice said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Jasandjules said:
I think he has got a 3 place Grid Penalty along with 2 points on his license. That will screw up the Merc strategy before Quali has even begun!
Yup. Three place drop for dangerous driving. https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-d...
But in terms of a penalty as a deterrent... Its surely more than enough given that he had no intention of spinning in the first place and also nothing to gain by doing so?
carinaman said:
Wikipedia said Bottas has won it twice, as has Verstappen.
In 2018, the mercs both broke down, in 2019 max ended up on newer tyres near the end. But the mercs usually start on pole, I don't think max ever has here.Would be great if max can pull out out the bag though, it's his home grand prix (for RB anyway) so they always puts that bit extra into it.
TheDeuce said:
That's the health and safety point of view...
But in terms of a penalty as a deterrent... Its surely more than enough given that he had no intention of spinning in the first place and also nothing to gain by doing so?
Not really? The rules are to leave the pits in a safe manner, dropping the clutch and fishtailing out isn't safe and lots do it yes but none have cocked it up so spectacularly. This penalty will do a lot to temper other drivers getaways. WEC have a blanket no wheelspin at all rule in the pits with severe penalties and I don't want that, a little bit of showboating is fine just don't take the piss. But in terms of a penalty as a deterrent... Its surely more than enough given that he had no intention of spinning in the first place and also nothing to gain by doing so?
honda_exige said:
TheDeuce said:
That's the health and safety point of view...
But in terms of a penalty as a deterrent... Its surely more than enough given that he had no intention of spinning in the first place and also nothing to gain by doing so?
Not really? The rules are to leave the pits in a safe manner, dropping the clutch and fishtailing out isn't safe and lots do it yes but none have cocked it up so spectacularly. This penalty will do a lot to temper other drivers getaways. WEC have a blanket no wheelspin at all rule in the pits with severe penalties and I don't want that, a little bit of showboating is fine just don't take the piss. But in terms of a penalty as a deterrent... Its surely more than enough given that he had no intention of spinning in the first place and also nothing to gain by doing so?
Whatever the intent of the wheel-spin the outcome was clearly dangerous to others.
vaud said:
Like many drivers, he was trying to rubber-in the pitbox... for whatever reason (new paint on the pitlane, etc) it went too far.
Whatever the intent of the wheel-spin the outcome was clearly dangerous to others.
Yep, can’t argue with the penalty, if you lose control in the pit lane then you’re always going to be in trouble. Whatever the intent of the wheel-spin the outcome was clearly dangerous to others.
robuk said:
It sounds like he was asked to do it though: "During the hearing BOT stated that in the past they have been losing time in the pit
departure. So they tried something new, which was to leave in second gear. As a
result, the wheel spin was much higher and the result unexpected"
Agreed - a risk they took as a team. Driver still liable.departure. So they tried something new, which was to leave in second gear. As a
result, the wheel spin was much higher and the result unexpected"
carinaman said:
a visual epitaph of his careervaud said:
honda_exige said:
TheDeuce said:
That's the health and safety point of view...
But in terms of a penalty as a deterrent... Its surely more than enough given that he had no intention of spinning in the first place and also nothing to gain by doing so?
Not really? The rules are to leave the pits in a safe manner, dropping the clutch and fishtailing out isn't safe and lots do it yes but none have cocked it up so spectacularly. This penalty will do a lot to temper other drivers getaways. WEC have a blanket no wheelspin at all rule in the pits with severe penalties and I don't want that, a little bit of showboating is fine just don't take the piss. But in terms of a penalty as a deterrent... Its surely more than enough given that he had no intention of spinning in the first place and also nothing to gain by doing so?
Whatever the intent of the wheel-spin the outcome was clearly dangerous to others.
CoolHands said:
carinaman said:
a visual epitaph of his career
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