Michael Masi should be replaced

Michael Masi should be replaced

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F1GTRUeno

6,363 posts

219 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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I wonder what it'll take for him to get replaced?

A massive pile up in Abu Dhabi with some injured drivers?

Sandpit Steve

10,128 posts

75 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Well that was a total and utter st-show, and it’s not finished yet, with stewards still deliberating.

Sadly, F1 is moving more and more towards wrestling.

Teppic

7,370 posts

258 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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I’d dear Charlie was still with us he’d simply have told Jonathan Wheatley that the matter was with the Stewards and they would make a decision. There would be none of this “offer” bks.

HardtopManual

2,439 posts

167 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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Negotiating a penalty with a team and asking if it's acceptable is just a ludicrous state of affairs, I'm embarrassed for the sport. I think I'd get rid of that radio channel if I was Liberty.

cc3

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2,801 posts

117 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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He’s let Verstappen get away with too much bad racing. Now Verstappen is totally beyond the rules. He’s dangerous will kill himself and/or someone else.

pixelmix

203 posts

109 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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HardtopManual said:
Negotiating a penalty with a team and asking if it's acceptable is just a ludicrous state of affairs, I'm embarrassed for the sport. I think I'd get rid of that radio channel if I was Liberty.
Totally agree. 'Referees' in other sports should have the ability to apply discretion but these matters should be going straight to a panel of stewards, not negotiated with team principles. Masi is playing to the Netflix crowd for his own ego - playing judge, jury and executioner. Liberty need to remember that a large number of F1 fans tune in for good, clean racing from what should be the pinnacle of motorsport, not pantomime antics.

I can probably forgive the Safety Car -> Red Flag incident: it is understandable that the barrier needed to be checked before it could be confirmed that a replacement part was required, but some of the other decisions and how they are made by Masi are now more than questionable.

dh00065p

125 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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The Race director needs to command the respect of the drivers and team managers in the way that Charlie Whiting did, I think Massi has lost that so if the FIA want to maintain their respect they need to replace him for next season.

HardtopManual

2,439 posts

167 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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dh00065p said:
The Race director needs to command the respect of the drivers and team managers in the way that Charlie Whiting did, I think Massi has lost that so if the FIA want to maintain their respect they need to replace him for next season.
They need someone with gravitas, not someone who sounds like a fresh out of university geography supply teacher who's just been put in charge of a remedial class at Borstal.

Philv8s

546 posts

125 months

Sunday 5th December 2021
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I haven’t watched an F1 race for years but as it was getting down to the line I thought I would this time out. I was amazed that team bosses were negotiating about grid restart positions! Can you imagine that happening in a football World Cup final for example! Manger argues it wasn’t a penalty but I can agree to an indirect free kick, Absolutely crazy.

b0rk

2,310 posts

147 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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I'm sorry as others have said bartering on the TV world feed over restart positions has to be a new low for the sport. Masi should IMHO have given them a simple choice, accept a three place drop or see what the stewards decide. None of the this "offering" bks.

There is quite frankly far much of the teams bleating at Masi and Masi then trying to accommodate.

shirt

22,630 posts

202 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Lots of rose tinted glasses for Charlie. Yeah he was a nice guy but presided over enough howlers of his own and was his respect wholly earned or by dint of being backed up by Bernie?

Sure the radio channel is embarrassing and Masi isn’t very competent or anything approaching an authority, but it’s not like his forebear was infallible

waynecyclist

8,859 posts

115 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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dh00065p said:
The Race director needs to command the respect of the drivers and team managers in the way that Charlie Whiting did, I think Massi has lost that so if the FIA want to maintain their respect they need to replace him for next season.
Agreed, he lost control of that race yesterday, it was a complete farce at times

entropy

5,450 posts

204 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Teppic said:
I’d dear Charlie was still with us he’d simply have told Jonathan Wheatley that the matter was with the Stewards and they would make a decision. There would be none of this “offer” bks.
Don't know why this is such a fuss. No difference to asking a driver to give the place back else the stewards deal with it.

entropy

5,450 posts

204 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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I've sympathised with Masi in the past and I love his replies to Jonathan Wheatley but he clearly can't handle the pressure.

oyster

12,613 posts

249 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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dh00065p said:
The Race director needs to command the respect of the drivers and team managers in the way that Charlie Whiting did, I think Massi has lost that so if the FIA want to maintain their respect they need to replace him for next season.
I recall plenty of driver briefing clips where Charlie was queries very heavily by drivers. The difference now is that we hear the team/FIA calls during the race.

Don't confuse awareness of issues with there being no issues.

rdjohn

6,192 posts

196 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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entropy said:
Teppic said:
I’d dear Charlie was still with us he’d simply have told Jonathan Wheatley that the matter was with the Stewards and they would make a decision. There would be none of this “offer” bks.
Don't know why this is such a fuss. No difference to asking a driver to give the place back else the stewards deal with it.
The response.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/masi-red-bull-v...

mw88

1,457 posts

112 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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entropy said:
Don't know why this is such a fuss. No difference to asking a driver to give the place back else the stewards deal with it.
It's just we never heard it before.

Liberty/FoM will cherry pick messages to either add to the drama or provoke a reaction, hence why we don't really hear much other than Red Bull/Mercedes. All the other teams will be moaning to Masi.

The same would have happened with Charlie, but because they weren't being broadcast no one knew!

mattikake

5,058 posts

200 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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This should be a poll.

The guy is completely out of his depth, lacks balls and appears to be corruptly trying to orchestrate a final race showdown at the behest of the regs and sporting consistency.

The worst referee in the history of sport. I'll do his job better for free

FourWheelDrift

88,572 posts

285 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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rdjohn said:
entropy said:
Teppic said:
I’d dear Charlie was still with us he’d simply have told Jonathan Wheatley that the matter was with the Stewards and they would make a decision. There would be none of this “offer” bks.
Don't know why this is such a fuss. No difference to asking a driver to give the place back else the stewards deal with it.
The response.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/masi-red-bull-v...
It could be completely normal but it was naive of the FIA to broadcast the conversation to the public who have never known about it or heard it before and expect everyone to think it normal. Especially considering the tinderbox of a championship at the moment. Stupid, naive maybe even arrogant, or done for the Netflix show who knows, but it should never be broadcast.

sparta6

3,701 posts

101 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Deal or No Deal ?

F1 has turned into a Noel Edmonds show hehe