Michael Masi should be replaced
Discussion
kambites said:
housen said:
was there a lot of random rule changes in football and tennis during important games in the last 40 years ?
There was an international Rugby Union game a few years ago where towards the end of the game one team (I believe it was Wales) asked the referee whether, if they kicked for touch, there would be time to take the lineout and push for a try before the final whistle. He said yes so they kicked for touch... he then blew the final whistle, not letting them take the lineout. Had they opted to kick for the posts instead, they could have won the game. Feels broadly analogous?
was a lie more than a change of rules ?
I'm actually genuinely interested
housen said:
strange one that
was a lie more than a change of rules ?
I'm actually genuinely interested
Wales vs Italy 2007was a lie more than a change of rules ?
I'm actually genuinely interested
a time keeping cock- up, for which the referee took full responsibility & wrote a formal apology to Wales
as we haven't heard from Masi, he is either still of the opinion he's correct (FIA's formal reply suggests otherwise) or he has signed an NDA about his settlement
kambites said:
housen said:
was there a lot of random rule changes in football and tennis during important games in the last 40 years ?
There was an international Rugby Union game a few years ago where towards the end of the game one team (I believe it was Wales) asked the referee whether, if they kicked for touch, there would be time to take the lineout and push for a try before the final whistle. He said yes so they kicked for touch... he then blew the final whistle, not letting them take the lineout. Had they opted to kick for the posts instead, they could have won the game. Feels broadly analogous?
jimothyc said:
So a quick meeting agenda item and a chat with the drivers, followed by the results being announced during FP1 at Bahrain.
Well that should resolve all the issues then. Can't see anyone having a problem with that. /s
kick the can down the road till everyone is in the paddock trying to get theirs cars to start
no distractions then
A simple solution would be to introduce a rule such that if an incident occurs within 'x' laps of the end of a race that would normally necessitate a safety car, it shall be red flagged and restarted instead. Assuming that the desire is for races to finish under green flag conditions (which Indycar races often don't).
housen said:
angrymoby said:
LucyP said:
You also cannot just demand that A will not participate in future in the sport unless the referee/umpire etc. is removed. What sport can allow that ridiculous position? Wimbledon would have been a bit short of umpires back in McEnroe's day, had that been allowed, and football might be a bit short too.
Umpires & Referee's have arguably more powers than an F1 RD & as such are continually assessed on performance by their peers ... a few have been removed from officiating top events after complaints about their competencywas there a lot of random rule changes in football and tennis during important games in the last 40 years ?
In rugby union, refs are reported on for most matches when you go up in the top three tiers. Both captains are asked to give feedback to the ref, which has to go to the RFU. Any errors are not necessarily acted upon, but continual criticism of a particular issue are.
What never, ever happens in my experience is that a ref is disciplined or demoted because of one error. This goes even when there is a video of a particular appalling error of judgement. Examples available.
kambites said:
There was an international Rugby Union game a few years ago where towards the end of the game one team (I believe it was Wales) asked the referee whether, if they kicked for touch, there would be time to take the lineout and push for a try before the final whistle. He said yes so they kicked for touch... he then blew the final whistle, not letting them take the lineout. Had they opted to kick for the posts instead, they could have won the game.
Feels broadly analogous?
If they took the 3 points it would have been a draw. They went for the corner to try and win (Not important, just getting the facts straight)Feels broadly analogous?
I would understand if Lewis quit. Given the corruption and incompetence that was shown in Abu Dhabi.
It would be a real shame for the sport, but the manipulation of races for the benefit of "the spectacle" means that the sporting competition is already dead.
That said, I would love for Hamilton to come back and doninate this season, him and Merc to win both championships as a massive "f
k you" to the FIA and Liberty, before then quitting and publically tearing them to pieces.
It would be a real shame for the sport, but the manipulation of races for the benefit of "the spectacle" means that the sporting competition is already dead.
That said, I would love for Hamilton to come back and doninate this season, him and Merc to win both championships as a massive "f
k you" to the FIA and Liberty, before then quitting and publically tearing them to pieces.Blib said:
FIA announce that their report will be released on March 18th.
Friday practice in Bahrain.skullcandy said:
I cant see Lewis continuing next year now after that announcement. the timing feels like a deliberate "up yours" to him
I've been of the mind he won't want to quit like this, he'll want to go on his own terms, but the longer it goes on and the way the FIA are basically insulting him I have to wonderTriumphStag3.0V8 said:
I would understand if Lewis quit. Given the corruption and incompetence that was shown in Abu Dhabi.
It would be a real shame for the sport, but the manipulation of races for the benefit of "the spectacle" means that the sporting competition is already dead.
That said, I would love for Hamilton to come back and dominate this season, him and Merc to win both championships as a massive "fk you" to the FIA and Liberty, before then quitting and publically tearing them to pieces.
Yep, totally agree. I really hope he races and that he and George Russell totally beat Red Bull. We'll see... It would be a real shame for the sport, but the manipulation of races for the benefit of "the spectacle" means that the sporting competition is already dead.
That said, I would love for Hamilton to come back and dominate this season, him and Merc to win both championships as a massive "f
k you" to the FIA and Liberty, before then quitting and publically tearing them to pieces.tight fart said:
The F1 press are noticeably quiet on the subject, obviously don’t want to lose their press passes.
I've noticed this too. Were it football (as an example) there'd be no shortage of media pundits and ex-players weighing in with their opinion. The only one I remember telling it like it is was Rosberg immediately after the race when he basically explained safety car rules and how they weren't followed while Jenson Button pretended he was somewhere else and everyone else was like "phew, how about that race, hey?"Peter Windsor has put his thoughts up on youtube too. The rest I haven't seen anything meaningful.
jsf said:
They will know mid Feb if Masi is gone, if he is there for the start of the first race, he is there all year.
That would be too close to testing on the 23rd February I think for Hamilton to base his decision off, I doubt Hamilton would fk Merc over by retiring that close to a season start. I would love if he did leave though, Liberty Media would lose their golden goose and it would fk their media narrative up soo much. Serves them right for this farce.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff