Jamie Chadwick - First competitive female driver in F1?
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FourGears said:
Was it Danica Patrick that did ok in indycar a few years back.
Good luck to Jamie if she does.
Danica did seven seasons in Indy, before moving to NASCAR. She won one Indy race, and got half a dozen podium finishes. Danica and Michèle Mouton are probably the most successful living female drivers. Good luck to Jamie if she does.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Patrick
There have been a few lady drivers in Indy in recent years, Tatiana Calderon was there this year, after a stint in F2.
https://www.indycar.com/news/2022/06/06-10-female-...
Indy would definitely be a step up for Jamie, after three years in WS.
I personally think she is making the right choice, her choices here are limited, there is probably more interest in sponsorship to be gained being a female driving in the higher echelons of American racing, it's why Legge went there I presume. And she has made a great career in racing.
If she can prove herself in Lights, that is a huge leap to getting into Indycar, where she can be gauged against drivers who are both broadly on a career path and also drivers who have been doing Indy for decades. She can learn a lot, probably get paid very well and possibly even, if she does very well, find that way into elite single seaters back in the UK as I do think her mind is still very much F1.
Calderon I do not rate at all sadly and she is very well backed.
If she can prove herself in Lights, that is a huge leap to getting into Indycar, where she can be gauged against drivers who are both broadly on a career path and also drivers who have been doing Indy for decades. She can learn a lot, probably get paid very well and possibly even, if she does very well, find that way into elite single seaters back in the UK as I do think her mind is still very much F1.
Calderon I do not rate at all sadly and she is very well backed.
Sandpit Steve said:
Danica did seven seasons in Indy, before moving to NASCAR. She won one Indy race, and got half a dozen podium finishes. Danica and Michèle Mouton are probably the most successful living female drivers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Patrick
There have been a few lady drivers in Indy in recent years, Tatiana Calderon was there this year, after a stint in F2.
https://www.indycar.com/news/2022/06/06-10-female-...
Indy would definitely be a step up for Jamie, after three years in WS.
Good info. Cheershttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Patrick
There have been a few lady drivers in Indy in recent years, Tatiana Calderon was there this year, after a stint in F2.
https://www.indycar.com/news/2022/06/06-10-female-...
Indy would definitely be a step up for Jamie, after three years in WS.
Sandpit Steve said:
FourGears said:
Was it Danica Patrick that did ok in indycar a few years back.
Good luck to Jamie if she does.
Danica did seven seasons in Indy, before moving to NASCAR. She won one Indy race, and got half a dozen podium finishes. Danica and Michèle Mouton are probably the most successful living female drivers. Good luck to Jamie if she does.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Patrick
There have been a few lady drivers in Indy in recent years, Tatiana Calderon was there this year, after a stint in F2.
https://www.indycar.com/news/2022/06/06-10-female-...
Indy would definitely be a step up for Jamie, after three years in WS.
pablo said:
Hmm. In terms of highest profile championships they are the “most successful”…… there are many more female drivers who have won more races/championships in lower level races and other disciplines.
Of course. There’s a number of ladies in drag racing, for example, and we’ve covered the recent success of the Iron Dames endurance team on this thread. I’ll stick with saying that if you asked random motorsport fans to name the most successful lady driver, you’d get mostly Danica and Michele as your answers, with possibly the subject of this very thread as the answer among younger fans.
I can recall not that long ago, in short oval racing there is a formula called MiniStocks, theya re Mini bodies full contact stock cars for kids between 12 and 17. Yes it is fairly low brow, driving in ovals, but there are 30 cars, all graded best at the back etc.
For a couple of seasons there were a glut of girls not just driving and winning but utterly dominating, just as ruthless with the bumper, aggressive, fast as any of the lads doing it. It was almost revolutionary to watch it actually, seeing nearly every race won by any number of different girls, but it was so normal that even parents and the kids saw noithing special, it was next generation stuff they poo pooed it as being great that girls were winning, to them and thier rivals they were just drivers racing each other, which is exactly what we are aiming for surely.
This is what drives me to believe that this is possible, not just potential. AS I have seen girls dominate a racing category!!
For a couple of seasons there were a glut of girls not just driving and winning but utterly dominating, just as ruthless with the bumper, aggressive, fast as any of the lads doing it. It was almost revolutionary to watch it actually, seeing nearly every race won by any number of different girls, but it was so normal that even parents and the kids saw noithing special, it was next generation stuff they poo pooed it as being great that girls were winning, to them and thier rivals they were just drivers racing each other, which is exactly what we are aiming for surely.
This is what drives me to believe that this is possible, not just potential. AS I have seen girls dominate a racing category!!
LukeBrown66 said:
You can keep your wife beater, suits the image.
oh dear oh dear You really are an odd chap , We both agree to differ on the subject , So I suggest a friendly wager that in 10 years time if a lady wins a F1 race I will buy you a pint , if you lose you buy me a pint ,
where does wife bashing come into the equation ,?
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LukeBrown66 said:
Sens of humour failure alert.
if people are going to take the out of me endlessly they ought to be prepared to take it back surely.
How would I know anything about someone on a forum! Which is exactly the same thing people presume about me!!
not at all , no ones taking the ...... out of you if people are going to take the out of me endlessly they ought to be prepared to take it back surely.
How would I know anything about someone on a forum! Which is exactly the same thing people presume about me!!
and to keep it friendly I've offered you a pint or a case of larger if a lady wins a F1 race within 10 years ,,,,, in the unlikely event that they don't
mines a case of special brew or leffe , ..............our boxer dog loves the stuff
cheers
DBSV8 said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Sens of humour failure alert.
if people are going to take the out of me endlessly they ought to be prepared to take it back surely.
How would I know anything about someone on a forum! Which is exactly the same thing people presume about me!!
not at all , no ones taking the ...... out of you if people are going to take the out of me endlessly they ought to be prepared to take it back surely.
How would I know anything about someone on a forum! Which is exactly the same thing people presume about me!!
and to keep it friendly I've offered you a pint or a case of larger if a lady wins a F1 race within 10 years ,,,,, in the unlikely event that they don't
mines a case of special brew or leffe , ..............our boxer dog loves the stuff
cheers
he's just trolling on here. Nobody could possibly be this ignorant.Same old chuff coming from his mouth "a woman will be competitive in F1 because i think so", then ignores facts and Science on this thread that's already posted, then continues to compare F1 to minor racing series... then you offer him a friendly bet and he flounces, because deeep-down his own conscience can't back up his own dribble. Nauseating.
TobyTR said:
DBSV8 said:
LukeBrown66 said:
Sens of humour failure alert.
if people are going to take the out of me endlessly they ought to be prepared to take it back surely.
How would I know anything about someone on a forum! Which is exactly the same thing people presume about me!!
not at all , no ones taking the ...... out of you if people are going to take the out of me endlessly they ought to be prepared to take it back surely.
How would I know anything about someone on a forum! Which is exactly the same thing people presume about me!!
and to keep it friendly I've offered you a pint or a case of larger if a lady wins a F1 race within 10 years ,,,,, in the unlikely event that they don't
mines a case of special brew or leffe , ..............our boxer dog loves the stuff
cheers
he's just trolling on here. Nobody could possibly be this ignorant.Same old chuff coming from his mouth "a woman will be competitive in F1 because i think so", then ignores facts and Science on this thread that's already posted, then continues to compare F1 to minor racing series... then you offer him a friendly bet and he flounces, because deeep-down his own conscience can't back up his own dribble. Nauseating.
There is no science on this thread. There is very basic stuff often based on other sports that people throw up as an example and then say told you so.
Because no real research has been done to exactly detail why a female driver can not become decent in an F1 car.
The only stuff I read was about reaction times which has some merit and then some garbage based on cycling which is entirely physical. And then some idiot telling us that a woman had never beaten his trip time on a pushbike lol, I mean cmon guys surely you can do better?
Anyone with any sense knows that there is nothing preventing a woman getting to F1 and being able to score points and potentially should the right one come along win races.
The sport is demanding physically, but is any of it beyond a woman? Some of you seem to think so with no real research to back it up that has been done on that exact subject.
Will it ever happen? I doubt it, because of the all of the OTHER issues such as overall participation, finding that needle in a haystack is almost impossible, and even then she would have to be good enough to beat the vast array of guys in similar cars in F3, GP3, GP2 to get into F1, the odds are severely stacked against her.
But prove to me there is a reason why if the right person was found it could not happen?
There is no scientific proof that women cannot equal male drivers in the sport. Although being smaller and lighter is seen as an issue in some sports where men and women don’t compete, if anything it is an advantage in F1 racing. More key though are excellent cognitive abilities to focus on the task at hand. So, if properly trained, women have the same potential as men to become proficient F1 drivers. The conversation article a few years ago.
https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/think-female-ra... American research done on the subject ver small numbers
If we did some scientific research, then we can answer the question for once and for all,” Muir says. “So let’s sort it out, but we do it scientifically.” A quote from someone I think involved in W series called Catherine Muir.
So stop all the dreaming rubbish you keep calling me up for and realise that there is no research around this specific subject, there is evidence that certain areas of very extreme race driving might suit men slightly more, bit nothing really to prove any point.
Or are most of you disagreeing just not able to agree with me, or even worse simply not able to think or put up with the possibility that it might happen?
Because no real research has been done to exactly detail why a female driver can not become decent in an F1 car.
The only stuff I read was about reaction times which has some merit and then some garbage based on cycling which is entirely physical. And then some idiot telling us that a woman had never beaten his trip time on a pushbike lol, I mean cmon guys surely you can do better?
Anyone with any sense knows that there is nothing preventing a woman getting to F1 and being able to score points and potentially should the right one come along win races.
The sport is demanding physically, but is any of it beyond a woman? Some of you seem to think so with no real research to back it up that has been done on that exact subject.
Will it ever happen? I doubt it, because of the all of the OTHER issues such as overall participation, finding that needle in a haystack is almost impossible, and even then she would have to be good enough to beat the vast array of guys in similar cars in F3, GP3, GP2 to get into F1, the odds are severely stacked against her.
But prove to me there is a reason why if the right person was found it could not happen?
There is no scientific proof that women cannot equal male drivers in the sport. Although being smaller and lighter is seen as an issue in some sports where men and women don’t compete, if anything it is an advantage in F1 racing. More key though are excellent cognitive abilities to focus on the task at hand. So, if properly trained, women have the same potential as men to become proficient F1 drivers. The conversation article a few years ago.
https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/think-female-ra... American research done on the subject ver small numbers
If we did some scientific research, then we can answer the question for once and for all,” Muir says. “So let’s sort it out, but we do it scientifically.” A quote from someone I think involved in W series called Catherine Muir.
So stop all the dreaming rubbish you keep calling me up for and realise that there is no research around this specific subject, there is evidence that certain areas of very extreme race driving might suit men slightly more, bit nothing really to prove any point.
Or are most of you disagreeing just not able to agree with me, or even worse simply not able to think or put up with the possibility that it might happen?
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