Official 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Thread (Vol 2) *SPOILERS*
Discussion
peterpan0 said:
what's he going to be quiet about ? you have read this thread i presume ?
hes worth far more than 200mm
liberty cos they fcked him so hard and don't want him to quit
again u have read this thread ?
i could go on too
OK, but if you do go on, could you re-introduce capital letters to make it easier to read. That, and decide on whether you're going to go with 'u' or 'you' once and for all.hes worth far more than 200mm
liberty cos they fcked him so hard and don't want him to quit
again u have read this thread ?
i could go on too
Edited by peterpan0 on Thursday 17th February 12:11
Muzzer79 said:
peterpan0 said:
Muzzer79 said:
peterpan0 said:
do we think maybe Hamilton got a 50mm pay off to be quiet ?
Er.....no?Random suggestion.....
1. Lewis Hamilton is (allegedly) worth over £200m so doesn't need the money.
2. If he isn't paid £50m, what is he not going to 'be quiet' about?
3. Who will fork out the £50m and why?
I could go on - it's a silly suggestion.
peterpan0 said:
Muzzer79 said:
peterpan0 said:
Muzzer79 said:
peterpan0 said:
do we think maybe Hamilton got a 50mm pay off to be quiet ?
Er.....no?Random suggestion.....
1. Lewis Hamilton is (allegedly) worth over £200m so doesn't need the money.
2. If he isn't paid £50m, what is he not going to 'be quiet' about?
3. Who will fork out the £50m and why?
I could go on - it's a silly suggestion.
hes worth far more than 200mm
liberty cos they fcked him so hard and don't want him to quit
again u have read this thread ?
i could go on too
Edited by peterpan0 on Thursday 17th February 12:11
Hamilton's net worth was reported last year as $260m or so, about £180m. With a pinch of salt obviously.
TheDeuce said:
Muzzer79 said:
There is/was no Red Bull bias.
At worst, Masi allowed himself to partly be influenced by calls on the radio to get the race running again.
But, at it's core, that was his main motive - to not finish the World Championship behind a safety car. The fact that it benefitted Red Bull is a side effect.
I think that's probably true. I maintain my suspicion he's generally made highly convenient and questionable decisions all season, but that final one probably was a fAt worst, Masi allowed himself to partly be influenced by calls on the radio to get the race running again.
But, at it's core, that was his main motive - to not finish the World Championship behind a safety car. The fact that it benefitted Red Bull is a side effect.
k up as a result of just wanting to get racing again. RB were very clever to sell him a plausible way of achieving that...but anyone with even a modicum of knowledge about tyre performance would know the outcome. For Masi to ignore the flagrantly obvious - to even a moron - was unbelievable...The problem is that if the above is true, it shows a monumental lack of judgement under pressure from Masi. The race restart procedure in the circumstance is well rehearsed, well understood. He chose in a desperate way to try something new at a time when he couldn't possibly have the time to assess how it could play out and whether it was really a good idea or not. When you have extremely limited time to do something, that is not a sensible time to try something new...
The fact he did try something new just goes to show he is a man willing to directly influence the outcome of a race by tailoring his decisions as opposed to remaining consistent. In Abu Dhabi he made a decision he has not previously made, and he did it to influence the way the race ended to make it more exciting - he did it for the show. Naturally that leads me to wonder else did he do throughout the season 'for the show'.. Which is why I suspect he is a man the powers that be are able to influence.a very easily influenced steward is not what the sport needs
Whiting wasn't perfect but he struck me as having rather more integrity.
peterpan0 said:
what's he going to be quiet about ? you have read this thread i presume ?
hes worth far more than 200mm
liberty cos they fcked him so hard and don't want him to quit
again u have read this thread ?
i could go on too
edit if he was worth 200mm and was given 50mm that's a 25% up tick in his personal wealth which is very substantial.
Housen, is that you? hes worth far more than 200mm
liberty cos they fcked him so hard and don't want him to quit
again u have read this thread ?
i could go on too
edit if he was worth 200mm and was given 50mm that's a 25% up tick in his personal wealth which is very substantial.
Edited by peterpan0 on Thursday 17th February 12:11
Edited by peterpan0 on Thursday 17th February 12:23
mw88 said:
peterpan0 said:
what's he going to be quiet about ? you have read this thread i presume ?
hes worth far more than 200mm
liberty cos they fcked him so hard and don't want him to quit
again u have read this thread ?
i could go on too
edit if he was worth 200mm and was given 50mm that's a 25% up tick in his personal wealth which is very substantial.
Housen, is that you? hes worth far more than 200mm
liberty cos they fcked him so hard and don't want him to quit
again u have read this thread ?
i could go on too
edit if he was worth 200mm and was given 50mm that's a 25% up tick in his personal wealth which is very substantial.
Edited by peterpan0 on Thursday 17th February 12:11
Edited by peterpan0 on Thursday 17th February 12:23
The fact Masi is still in a job beggars belief.
Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.
Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.
paulw123 said:
The fact Masi is still in a job beggars belief.
Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.
I feel the same way. I've not paid any attention to any of the car launches, I'm not in the least bit interested in watching the upcoming Drive to Survive season and I have not even put the 2022 race dates on my calendar. I think if the FIA doesn't do something grown-up about this before the first race I might not even bother to watch. I never thought I'd ever feel like this about F1, having watched the last 40-odd seasons, in full.Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.
peterpan0 said:
Muzzer79 said:
peterpan0 said:
Muzzer79 said:
peterpan0 said:
do we think maybe Hamilton got a 50mm pay off to be quiet ?
Er.....no?Random suggestion.....
1. Lewis Hamilton is (allegedly) worth over £200m so doesn't need the money.
2. If he isn't paid £50m, what is he not going to 'be quiet' about?
3. Who will fork out the £50m and why?
I could go on - it's a silly suggestion.
hes worth far more than 200mm
liberty cos they fcked him so hard and don't want him to quit
again u have read this thread ?
i could go on too
edit if he was worth 200mm and was given 50mm that's a 25% up tick in his personal wealth which is very substantial.
Edited by peterpan0 on Thursday 17th February 12:11
Edited by peterpan0 on Thursday 17th February 12:23
So, in your world, Liberty have paid Hamilton £50m to "keep quiet" about mistakes the Race Director made in a race that has been decided.
Again in your world; he has also decided that his silence can indeed be bought so Hamilton has accepted this payment because he thinks £200m isn't enough and there's things he can do with £250m that he can't do with £200m.
I'd love to know exactly what information you think Hamilton can share to people, that isn't already in the public domain, that is worth someone paying him 50 million quid to keep to himself.
MarkwG said:
The picture it paints of the 2022 Masi makes uncomfortable reading: it also makes it feel like the organisation is hanging him out to dry, when it should have been supporting him appropriately in the first place.
I believe Masi understood the rules in respect of the safety car perfectly well as demonstrated by his clear ruling during the SC period in the 2020 Eifel GPhttps://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-race-directo...
Why then did he depart from his own previous practice and application of the rules? It can only be because:
1) he was pressured to do so, or
2) he went rogue.
I dont believe scenario 2 is very likely at all. The last thing the FIA would want is a pissed off and sacked Massi telling the world he was told to bin the rules in favour of the show. Sure he could be bought off and required to sign a NDA but it would be far better for them to keep him in the organisation and under their control
paulw123 said:
The fact Masi is still in a job beggars belief.
Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.
He's not Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.
Not so much the content https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/60400082
(Maybe should be in 2022 thread) But the comments, that Masi finale has really a lot of fans off.
Whoooo Stop press https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/motorsports/michae...
(Maybe should be in 2022 thread) But the comments, that Masi finale has really
a lot of fans off.Whoooo Stop press https://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/motorsports/michae...
paulguitar said:
Freitas, good call but Niels Wittich?DTM is hardly free of controversial decisions
paulw123 said:
The fact Masi is still in a job beggars belief.
Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.
Yes as bent as a nine bob note & in time it may well come out just how much influence RB has over the muppet.Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.
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