Official 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Thread (Vol 2) *SPOILERS*

[Volvolover]

RichardM5 said:

BBC said:

Masi will be "offered a new position within the FIA", Ben Sulayem said.

Cleaning the toilets maybe?

Given that he is an employee like any other they cant just 'sack' him without proving misconduct or breach of contract etc, seeing as the only enquiry (stewards post race) found that he had overriding authority then its pretty hard for him to be sacked without them having to pay him off (if he agreed with it), the fact he's been given another job pretty much proves he acted within his authority but its the Race Director authority and the rules that need changing which is what appears to be happening.

[angrymoby]

i dont understand ...according to the Max fans & anti-Hamilton brigade, Masi was perfectly entitled to do what he did, so how come he's gone?

& good luck to any team bosses trying to get into Eduardo Freitas's ear

[Sandpit Steve]

Masi finally gone - well, moved into a new position at the last minute of the off-season, how fitting.

Maybe I’ll start being seriously interested in 2022 now, and the whole circus can move on from 2021 *

I wonder how Martin Brundle, Joe Saward and many of the other media who have been toeing the line for the past two months, will reconcile themselves to the changes?

[PhilAsia]

Volvolover said:

itll be very interesting to see how they word Massi being moved out of that role...

It'll be just as interesting as seeing how those on here that defended Masi's actions defend Masi now...eh Valva..

[MarkwG]

TheDeuce said:

MarkwG said:

The picture it paints of the 2022 Masi makes uncomfortable reading: it also makes it feel like the organisation is hanging him out to dry, when it should have been supporting him appropriately in the first place.

Or more likely... He did what they wanted and now he gets slung under the bus. The next guy will be carefully chosen to also do what the powers that be desire.

That's just one theory of course. Perhaps Masi is simply a buffoon.

Depends whether or not we believe that convenient decisions lead to a neck and neck season followed by an end game equal points showdown was worth enough hundreds of millions to motivate the beneficiaries of those millions to ask a single puppet to show a little bias in favour of 'the show'..

Hundreds of millions don't normally sway a humans judgement, so I'm sure it was all reasonable and honest

Maybe so: however, if that's how he gets treated, the next incumbent is going to very aware that he's on his own if/when the manure interacts with the ceiling ventilator again, as it doesn't go anywhere towards fixing the systemic issues that got us here. There may well have been a group think "lets make it a season to remember" attitude prevailing throughout the paddock & the FIA/Liberty combo, which Masi either deliberately or accidentally misinterpreted as licence to write his own rules...but to have happened so many times through the season, he must have at least felt he had the endorsement of those above. His removal shows he was wrong about that, as it turns out. One person shouldering the responsibility of an organisation, particularly when it's not the one at the top of the tree, smacks of 4rse covering, rather than problem solving to me.

[ChocolateFrog]

paulguitar said:

Masi out!

https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/17/fia-confirms-d...

Not sacked outright unfortunately but atleast he'll be ushered away from front line F1 where he hopefully can't do anymore damage.

[Muzzer79]

Not a surprise that he's gone. His position was untenable.

Rule clarification, fresh start for the new season.

This is about as close we'll get to the FIA admitting that what happened in Abu Dhabi was wrong.

[2fast748]

Sandpit Steve said:

Masi finally gone - well, moved into a new position at the last minute of the off-season, how fitting.

Maybe I’ll start being seriously interested in 2022 now, and the whole circus can move on from 2021 *

I wonder how Martin Brundle, Joe Saward and many of the other media who have been toeing the line for the past two months, will reconcile themselves to the changes?

Nick Knowles must be pleased.....

Joe Saward will have always implied what the outcome was it's just that you're not smart enough to understand him.

[Volvolover]

PhilAsia said:

Volvolover said:

itll be very interesting to see how they word Massi being moved out of that role...

It'll be just as interesting as seeing how those on here that defended Masi's actions defend Masi now...eh Valva..

As above, they'd have sacked him had he breached contract or had proven misconduct. I believe the rules and the authority of the RD need amending, clearing up but that Massi acted within as mandate as the stewards panel found.

I don't think i defended Massi's actions but merely pointed out that according to the published rules and the subsequent stewards hearing he acted in accordance with his mandate.

[angrymoby]

Volvolover said:

As above, they'd have sacked him had he breached contract or had proven misconduct. I believe the rules and the authority of the RD need amending, clearing up but that Massi acted within as mandate as the stewards panel found.

I don't think i defended Massi's actions but merely pointed out that according to the published rules and the subsequent stewards hearing he acted in accordance with his mandate.

If he had, he'd still be RD ...no way would the FIA back down if they didn't think they had to

[Volvolover]

angrymoby said:

Volvolover said:

As above, they'd have sacked him had he breached contract or had proven misconduct. I believe the rules and the authority of the RD need amending, clearing up but that Massi acted within as mandate as the stewards panel found.

I don't think i defended Massi's actions but merely pointed out that according to the published rules and the subsequent stewards hearing he acted in accordance with his mandate.

If he had, he'd still be RD ...no way would the FIA back down if they didn't think they had to

I think they've had to move him aside to appease Mercedes and the unexpected swell of fan discontent. Its good business from them and fair to Massi. He's a scapegoat for their rubbish rules and governance framework. He hasn't helped himself by being mildly unpleasant in some of the publish communications either. I think a fair result all round

[paulguitar]

Volvolover said:

I think they've had to move him aside to appease Mercedes and the unexpected swell of fan discontent. Its good business from them and fair to Massi. He's a scapegoat for their rubbish rules and governance framework. He hasn't helped himself by being mildly unpleasant in some of the publish communications either. I think a fair result all round

The problem was that he invented rules.

[Volvolover]

PhilAsia said:

Volvolover said:

itll be very interesting to see how they word Massi being moved out of that role...

It'll be just as interesting as seeing how those on here that defended Masi's actions defend Masi now...eh Valva..

ps. Do you have to be such an offensive idiot, its just a discussion. Shall I call you PhallusAsia to even it up?

[DickyC]

peterpan0 said:

do we think maybe Hamilton got a 50mm pay off to be quiet ?


I think that's a fair number to say sorry behind closed doors

Hamilton is worth more than 50 millimetres.

Of what?

We're not sure. The poster may elaborate.

Understood.

[sociopath]

paulw123 said:

The fact Masi is still in a job beggars belief.

Still feel sick about what happened that day. It was a season that showed the worst decisions of a race director I can ever remember. Spa, Brazil, Saudi or Abu Dahbi on their own would have been bad enough but to have all that in one season is just ridiculous. The final race will haunt the FIA for years.
Sport and fairness comes first. ‘The show’ comes second.

If you still feel sick about it, maybe you need to reprioritise your life.

I'm amazed you lot are still banging on about it, even though you've managed to get Masi moved.

What will you do if his replacements don't do what you want? will you call foul/racism again

[PhilAsia]

Volvolover said:

PhilAsia said:

Volvolover said:

itll be very interesting to see how they word Massi being moved out of that role...

It'll be just as interesting as seeing how those on here that defended Masi's actions defend Masi now...eh Valva..

As above, they'd have sacked him had he breached contract or had proven misconduct.they removed him from the position of RD because of his actions and reaction to them

I believe the rules and the authority of the RD need amending, clearing up but that Massi acted within as mandatethey removed him from the position of RD because of his actions and reaction to them

as the stewards panel found the stewards were marking their own homework

I don't think i defended Massi's actions but merely pointed out that according to the published rules and the subsequent stewards hearing he acted in accordance with his mandate.wrongly, as it turns out, as Masi got booted for them Vilvi

[NRS]

angrymoby said:

i dont understand ...according to the Max fans & anti-Hamilton brigade, Masi was perfectly entitled to do what he did, so how come he's gone?

Wonder if they will post again on here?

[PhilAsia]

Volvolover said:

PhilAsia said:

Volvolover said:

itll be very interesting to see how they word Massi being moved out of that role...

It'll be just as interesting as seeing how those on here that defended Masi's actions defend Masi now...eh Valva..

ps. Do you have to be such an offensive idiot, its just a discussion. Shall I call you PhallusAsia to even it up?

Why would you do that?

[paulguitar]

sociopath said:

I'm amazed you lot are still banging on about it, even though you've managed to get Masi moved.

Wow, didn't know it was we humble Pistonheaders who were responsible. Thanks!

sociopath said:

What will you do if his replacements don't do what you want? will you call foul/racism again

You're really not coming across very well here.

If something similar were to happen again, the reaction would be similar. OF COURSE, we'd 'call foul', if a foul were committed.

[Nova Gyna]

paulguitar said:

Masi out!

https://www.racefans.net/2022/02/17/fia-confirms-d...

From the article:

“Michael Masi, who accomplished a very challenging job for three years as Formula 1 race director following Charlie Whiting, will be offered a new position within the FIA.”

I sincerely hope the tools for this new position consists of a fluorescent gilet, new yard broom and a set of clear and unambiguous instructions on how to lock the gates when everyone’s finished for the afternoon.

If I’d been responsible for such a monumental fkup that was broadcast around the world which then went on to be hotly debated for months’ after the event, l’d probably crawl under a rock and not have the effrontery to show my face anywhere near a race track.

But then again, he’s an Aussie and I’m not lol