Official 2022 Miami Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2022 Miami Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Poll: Official 2022 Miami Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Total Members Polled: 223

Hamilton: 5%
Russell: 8%
Verstappen: 38%
Perez: 5%
Leclerc: 28%
Sainz: 4%
Norris: 8%
Ricciardo: 1%
Vettel: 1%
Alonso: 1%
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entropy

5,449 posts

204 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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ettore said:
Ditto.

Pompous, curtain-twitchy (and no doubt fourth hand) comments irrelevant.

Loved the Miami razzmatazz but detail improvements on the track needed for next year. Dull race that livened at the end and Max/Leclerc will run - different cars for different tracks.

…and as a side note thought Danica Patrick was a great addition to the sky team. Relevant, engaging and a natural presenter.
She is so awful its laughable. Did you not notice Jenson at the end of the show was completely lost and befuddled by Danica's verbal diarrhea?




Cold

15,253 posts

91 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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I quite enjoyed the last handful of laps with ("the Monegasque driver") Leclerc giving Max a hard time. I wasn't expecting a pass but it was still entertaining to watch.
Shame Perez couldn't benefit from his new tyres to get by Sainz as that result would have added even more to a good collection of points for Red Bull, but it seems his car suffered from a sensor fault which cost him some power (around 20kw according to Horner).
Further back, at least the Mercedes number two driver didn't get lapped this time, but his deliberate delaying of his consistently faster teammate only punished the team as a whole.

fttm

3,696 posts

136 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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ettore said:
Ditto.

Pompous, curtain-twitchy (and no doubt fourth hand) comments irrelevant.

Loved the Miami razzmatazz but detail improvements on the track needed for next year. Dull race that livened at the end and Max/Leclerc will run - different cars for different tracks.

…and as a side note thought Danica Patrick was a great addition to the sky team. Relevant, engaging and a natural presenter.

With you on this , it's entertainment and a show was put on , track was the problem today . Laughing at all the frustrated Brits on here moaning and bhing about everything from what people were wearing/ national anthem/ and general anti American twoddle . Sad reflection really , but expected . They'll be suicidal watching the Vegas race rolleyeslaugh

ch37

10,642 posts

222 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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DOCG said:
Why race in a soulless car park with brightly painted run-off areas when Usa already has plenty of good tracks like Watkins Glen, Road America, Laguna Seca, Daytona 24Hours, Sebring and so on.
It's generally accepted that if F1 were to rock up to a classic circuit that it hasn't raced at for years/ever, they will spend months before the race changing the very character of that circuit to suit F1. Even if it's already Grade 1 they will find a way. All of the above are Grade 2, I believe. Also, have you seen where some of these circuits are?! With all the 'destinations' in the US there is no way they are heading out to the arse end of nowhere.

It's the Brands Hatch argument, basically. If you love a circuit the last thing you should want is F1 turning up.


Edited by ch37 on Monday 9th May 04:49

suffolk009

5,441 posts

166 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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DOCG said:
Why race in a soulless car park with brightly painted run-off areas when Usa already has plenty of good tracks like Watkins Glen, Road America, Laguna Seca, Daytona 24Hours, Sebring and so on.
It's an unpopular idea, but I'd like to see them race at Bristol Motor Speedway.



anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
Another 5s penalty for Alonso for gaining an advantage off track, promotes Albon to 9th and Stroll to 10th.
What a shocking race he’s had. 2 penalties and a few collisions on the way to 11th.

jimPH

3,981 posts

81 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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paulw123 said:
Vanity Projects said:
LP670 said:
Its always the safety cars fault biggrin
It was on this occasion. However, I don’t see why Hamilton made a meal of making George’s overtake so hard though, he potentially cost the team a pop at Perez.

Haven’t really seen Hamilton been outclassed or out driven by George yet, the car is completely bipolar.

but that post safety car period today was probably the first time something approaching petulance has popped into LH’s racing (excluding radio chatter) instead of ‘it’s all as a team’ etc.

I do wish they’d sort the car out though, I much prefer listening to Toto on Sky than Horner, like today when he completely dodged around the fact they wouldn’t let Perez have a sniff at Max until Bridnle put him on spot. biggrin
Well Russel only had to overtake one car (Lewis) the whole race that didn’t pit or run into the wall so Lewis wasn’t going to make it easy. Russel is deff hogging all the Mercedes’ luck this season!
Russell will be finding out what kind of team mate Hamilton really is and cut the cloth accordingly.

Sandpit Steve

10,118 posts

75 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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DanielSan said:
DOCG said:
Why race in a soulless car park with brightly painted run-off areas when Usa already has plenty of good tracks like Watkins Glen, Road America, Laguna Seca, Daytona 24Hours, Sebring and so on.
The best thing F1 can do is go nowhere near any of this circuits, they'd all be ruined to host a grand prix.
Yep. They’d need extensive work to bring them up to F1 standards, which would ruin them completely from the point of view of their regular users.

Not the best of races, but everyone involved will be over the moon with the event.

I think it’s best to think of this event (and the forthcoming Vegas GP) a bit like Monaco and Singapore. F1 as a business - with sponsors and business partners - wants the ‘destination city’ events, where hundreds of thousands of people turn up to be entertained. By that measure it was a roaring success. So long as they also keep Silverstone, Spa, Monza and Suzuka, that’s okay.

It’s a little like Porsche selling all those SUVs, but the profits from them enable the GT operation to make brilliant sports cars.

Derek Smith

45,736 posts

249 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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The race was not one of the best. I'm glad Alonso lost his points. It was a dreadful race for him.

People have criticised Merc's tactics, but they got Russell his position. If they'd come in earlier, he'd have been back in the midfield. Even if he'd pitted normally at the time he came in, he'd have been 6th. A fair distance behind LH, but that's immaterial.

Glad for Albon, including the extra point courtesy of Alonso.

The last 12 laps were exciting, although there were a few bits throughout the race, and not only the occasional hail Mary from Alonso.

The hype is to be expected. It's the USA. It looks crude and course to our eyes, but that's what they want and it's their country. We've either got to get used to it or give up on racing. The 500 is farcical in its hype.

MV has time in hand I think. He was, at times, cruising. A faster lap from CLC meant MV'd get it back in the next two laps.

CLC gave it a good go though.

I'm not sure what else Sainz could have done to keep MV behind him at the start, but I wonder what CLC could have done before MV got past his teammate.

It is rumoured that Merc's improvement was mainly based on the temperatures. Shame if true. The races would benefit with a third team at the front.

ch37

10,642 posts

222 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Good thing is they have plenty of scope to make adjustments to the circuit for next year based on feedback, I imagine they will reprofile the chicane section for a start.

Frimley111R

15,680 posts

235 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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I probably echo a few comments on here. The racing been a bit dull so far. Cars follow more closely but it doesn't help overtaking and DRS trains are common and dull too. Last 2 tracks have not been great either. Are F1 cars just getting too big too? They barely made it through turns 11 and 12 at Miami

Sandpit Steve

10,118 posts

75 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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ch37 said:
Good thing is they have plenty of scope to make adjustments to the circuit for next year based on feedback, I imagine they will reprofile the chicane section for a start.
The chicane section is about the only bit they can’t really change. There was an interview with the circuit designer, who said they had a nightmare getting the profile of that section within the design regulations in three dimensions.

The two bridges they go under are the main highway access roads for the local area, bounded by the freeway and a canal - so unless they can somehow redesign those, they’re stuck with that horrible section threading through the existing infrastructure.

paulguitar

23,568 posts

114 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Cold said:
Further back, at least the Mercedes number two driver didn't get lapped this time, but his deliberate delaying of his consistently faster teammate only punished the team as a whole.
This comment suggests you've completely failed to understand the situation.

a_dreamer

2,031 posts

38 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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paulguitar said:
This comment suggests you've completely failed to understand the situation.
I do wonder if they'd let Russel go straight after the safety car, given the tyre situation, how much further up the road he could have got.

They'd have done it instantly if it were Hamilton (but Merc don't have first and second drivers wink )

I wonder how different the two cars are as they look to find solutions to their cars problems

Hungrymc

6,684 posts

138 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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a_dreamer said:
I do wonder if they'd let Russel go straight after the safety car, given the tyre situation, how much further up the road he could have got.

They'd have done it instantly if it were Hamilton (but Merc don't have first and second drivers wink )
And then swapped them back if the attack on Perez was not successful ?

Can you imagine the way a few would have kicked off in here if they did that…. Lol.

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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What happens to the track now? Do they leave the asphalt down, or rip it all up til next year?

a_dreamer

2,031 posts

38 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Hungrymc said:
And then swapped them back if the attack on Perez was not successful ?

Can you imagine the way a few would have kicked off in here if they did that…. Lol.
They really should not be worried about the reaction of some fan boys on an internet forum

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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DanielSan said:
DOCG said:
Why race in a soulless car park with brightly painted run-off areas when Usa already has plenty of good tracks like Watkins Glen, Road America, Laguna Seca, Daytona 24Hours, Sebring and so on.
The best thing F1 can do is go nowhere near any of this circuits, they'd all be ruined to host a grand prix.
Absolutely this. I don’t understand how they can race at 200+mph next to a concrete wall but they can no longer race at Spa without fking up Eau Rouge completely for every race series that goes there.

I was listening on Radio 5live and with about 20 laps to go, Jennie Gow said (with no hint of irony) “what this race needs is a safety car!…..”

NRS

22,203 posts

202 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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a_dreamer said:
paulguitar said:
This comment suggests you've completely failed to understand the situation.
I do wonder if they'd let Russel go straight after the safety car, given the tyre situation, how much further up the road he could have got.

They'd have done it instantly if it were Hamilton (but Merc don't have first and second drivers wink )

I wonder how different the two cars are as they look to find solutions to their cars problems
Like they did when letting the drivers race all the time before? You might have seen it was only once one driver was clear in the championship they did that sort of thing. Do you not remember Hamilton being allowed past once to have a go, only to give the place back when he couldn't pass either?

LP670

825 posts

127 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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Hungrymc said:
a_dreamer said:
I do wonder if they'd let Russel go straight after the safety car, given the tyre situation, how much further up the road he could have got.

They'd have done it instantly if it were Hamilton (but Merc don't have first and second drivers wink )
And then swapped them back if the attack on Perez was not successful ?

Can you imagine the way a few would have kicked off in here if they did that…. Lol.
Worked out much better for George the way it played out than if Merc swapped the cars and he then failed to overtake Perez which is probably the way it would have gone. Hamilton unnecessarily fighting hard then gives the what if scenario on Georges race and highlights his inability to play the team game