Daniel Ricciardo
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HTP99 said:
cuprabob said:
Jasandjules said:
His days must be numbered now surely? Unless on the RB simulator he can drive the main car close to Max...
Yes, he's toast.I think this weekends criticism is unfair.
Qualified half a tenth of his teammate with very little running after giving up his car in p1, no running on p2
And the incident today, that’s on Albon if anybody, put his car in a stupid position, from dans perspective you can hardly be looking in all directions as your about to take a corner, he looked to the left, but didn’t expect a plonker to be making a plonkers move on the right.
Qualified half a tenth of his teammate with very little running after giving up his car in p1, no running on p2
And the incident today, that’s on Albon if anybody, put his car in a stupid position, from dans perspective you can hardly be looking in all directions as your about to take a corner, he looked to the left, but didn’t expect a plonker to be making a plonkers move on the right.
usn90 said:
I think this weekends criticism is unfair.
Qualified half a tenth of his teammate with very little running after giving up his car in p1, no running on p2
And the incident today, that’s on Albon if anybody, put his car in a stupid position, from dans perspective you can hardly be looking in all directions as your about to take a corner, he looked to the left, but didn’t expect a plonker to be making a plonkers move on the right.
It takes a strong bias to say someone moving from left to right without checking who or what was on his right is apportioned no blame.Qualified half a tenth of his teammate with very little running after giving up his car in p1, no running on p2
And the incident today, that’s on Albon if anybody, put his car in a stupid position, from dans perspective you can hardly be looking in all directions as your about to take a corner, he looked to the left, but didn’t expect a plonker to be making a plonkers move on the right.
usn90 said:
I think this weekends criticism is unfair.
Qualified half a tenth of his teammate with very little running after giving up his car in p1, no running on p2
And the incident today, that’s on Albon if anybody, put his car in a stupid position, from dans perspective you can hardly be looking in all directions as your about to take a corner, he looked to the left, but didn’t expect a plonker to be making a plonkers move on the right.
Agree on qualifying. Really solid job there. Not the accident though. Looked pretty damn clumsy to me and albon had every right to have a look round the outside with such a big speed deficit. Qualified half a tenth of his teammate with very little running after giving up his car in p1, no running on p2
And the incident today, that’s on Albon if anybody, put his car in a stupid position, from dans perspective you can hardly be looking in all directions as your about to take a corner, he looked to the left, but didn’t expect a plonker to be making a plonkers move on the right.
Gad-Westy said:
Agree on qualifying. Really solid job there. Not the accident though. Looked pretty damn clumsy to me and albon had every right to have a look round the outside with such a big speed deficit.
Agree he did ok to qualify close to his team mate but accident looked clumsy in the replay you can see his tyre come off after hitting the FRONT of the Williams so Albon was quite car alongside and lap one early corners he should be 110% aware of what’s around him looks like an amateurish mistake. Edited by rallycross on Sunday 7th April 18:55
Much as I like DR's sunny personality, F1 is a big boy's results game where luck evens out in time. He has been consistently uninspiring since he came back to RB, probably not helped by hand injury last at Zandvoort. Sport is not always fair....and he is not exactly entertaining on track with the late late brake show anymore. Bye bye time.
740EVTORQUES said:
That’s all fair comment.
I’d just say that (more as an explanation than an excuse) these drivers are so close to the cutting edge that just changing your inherent driving style to suit a different type of car is beyond what even they can do. It has to be instinctive, once they’re consciously adapting it’s all too artificial I should imagine.
Just look at how Peres struggled with the Red Bull?
I honestly don't think Perez is as good as some made him out before his move to RB. The Silverstone team always had a very circuit-sensitive car (going back to Force India and earlier) and the days when he picked up decent results were days that the car worked on that circuit. Look at his 2020 results and he wasn't significantly ahead of Stroll. He's just showing his true level at RB - a consistent mid-grid driver that's being shown up by an exceptionally fast one.I’d just say that (more as an explanation than an excuse) these drivers are so close to the cutting edge that just changing your inherent driving style to suit a different type of car is beyond what even they can do. It has to be instinctive, once they’re consciously adapting it’s all too artificial I should imagine.
Just look at how Peres struggled with the Red Bull?
On DR, the problem is that he doesn't seem to be adapting at all. Everyone else had to adapt to the ground effect cars too. If you're the only one that hasn't adapted you have to take a look in the mirror. Being the only one that can't deal with the car reflects pretty badly on him, especially when he also didn't adapt to the non-GE McLaren.
I was dumbfounded today at the Sky commentary team looking for any reason that the crash wasn't his fault. You can't just take whatever line you like in the first few turns at Suzuka. Sure, there's a lot going on at the start of the race, but that's even more reason to have your wits about you when moving across the track. He would've also known he'd been held up through turn 2. Plenty of others were going two wide through there. It was a rookie error.
usn90 said:
And the incident today, that’s on Albon if anybody, put his car in a stupid position, from dans perspective you can hardly be looking in all directions as your about to take a corner, he looked to the left, but didn’t expect a plonker to be making a plonkers move on the right.
The car that is moving from left to right is the car that creates the contact. He was looking in his left mirror when moving right, not a good idea on lap 1.FourWheelDrift said:
The car that is moving from left to right is the car that creates the contact. He was looking in his left mirror when moving right, not a good idea on lap 1.
I’ve not seen the clip with him looking in his mirrrors but as above was an amateurish move clearly his fault - would Liam Lawson have made the same mistake ? Maybe but he’d learn from it for future races whereas DR had no excuse at this stage in his career - he’s onlyGoing to get slower.
FourWheelDrift said:
usn90 said:
And the incident today, that’s on Albon if anybody, put his car in a stupid position, from dans perspective you can hardly be looking in all directions as your about to take a corner, he looked to the left, but didn’t expect a plonker to be making a plonkers move on the right.
The car that is moving from left to right is the car that creates the contact. He was looking in his left mirror when moving right, not a good idea on lap 1.rallycross said:
FourWheelDrift said:
The car that is moving from left to right is the car that creates the contact. He was looking in his left mirror when moving right, not a good idea on lap 1.
I’ve not seen the clip with him looking in his mirrrors It'll be sad to see him go, he actually looked like he enjoyed being there. I'll bet he's great with the sponsors in a way that most just aren't.
Part of it has to be that he knows this is last-chance saloon.
The benchmark always had to be "beat Tsunoda regularly", he's not come close to that ever, and it's hardly like we were all singing Tsunoda's praise as a future great.
Part of it has to be that he knows this is last-chance saloon.
The benchmark always had to be "beat Tsunoda regularly", he's not come close to that ever, and it's hardly like we were all singing Tsunoda's praise as a future great.
I’ll hold my hands up and say I’m not an Albon fan by any stretch, overrated, short memories in f1, the guy got his backside handed to him and lost his seat to Perez who most people reckon should be getting the sack too, now he’s had a couple of rubbish pay drivers to compare against and people think he deserves to take up a top seat!
He had lots of overspeed yes, but he drove into a gap that was 9/10 going to close, he tried to back out before the contact but was too late, it’s a racing incident, but Albon was more to blame.
Re the looking, you can’t be looking around you on turn in, you take a look in the mirrors on the lead up and it’s perfectly possible he did look right earlier on, but albons overspeed caught him out.
He had lots of overspeed yes, but he drove into a gap that was 9/10 going to close, he tried to back out before the contact but was too late, it’s a racing incident, but Albon was more to blame.
Re the looking, you can’t be looking around you on turn in, you take a look in the mirrors on the lead up and it’s perfectly possible he did look right earlier on, but albons overspeed caught him out.
usn90 said:
Re the looking, you can’t be looking around you on turn in, you take a look in the mirrors on the lead up and it’s perfectly possible he did look right earlier on, but albons overspeed caught him out.
So Ricciardo was turning in to a left hand corner while steering right across the track? The scandi flick is alive and well in F1 these days huh?
usn90 said:
PRO5T said:
So Ricciardo was turning in to a left hand corner while steering right across the track? The scandi flick is alive and well in F1 these days huh?
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