Daniel Ricciardo
Discussion
spikyone said:
PRO5T said:
Saintz’ intelligence can’t be denied, in a lot of other forms of motorsport he would be (quite rightly) well valued.
In F1 though, at the sharp end, all the team really need is the absolute fastest driver and the ability of him to do exactly what he’s told.
If Ferrari want a good strategist they’ll employ one for the pit wall.
I still think Saintz and Leclerc is a better pairing than Leclerc and Hamilton but there’s no denying the pulling power and money Lewis will bring.
He should really end up at red bull.
It's a bit o/t for this thread but I'll take it. I think if you had the sort of car that Red Bull currently have, you'd want Leclerc in it. You know he can be exceptionally fast. But in a tight fight for the title I'd want Sainz.In F1 though, at the sharp end, all the team really need is the absolute fastest driver and the ability of him to do exactly what he’s told.
If Ferrari want a good strategist they’ll employ one for the pit wall.
I still think Saintz and Leclerc is a better pairing than Leclerc and Hamilton but there’s no denying the pulling power and money Lewis will bring.
He should really end up at red bull.
He just doesn't seem to feel pressure and is hugely consistent, exemplified by Singapore last year, one of the outstanding drives of the season when the odds were against him. He might not pick up the extra points that Charles could on his best days, but you'd rely on him never to throw anything away.
In relation to this thread however, in either situation, would you really want Ricciardo? It always comes back to that video with Jenson Button and the karting, when Jenson is explaining when to go stiffer on the front end and poor Danny glazing over and looking completely lost at what on earth they're talking about...
Well, Danny's upped his game this weekend. 14th vs 19th in SQ, 11th vs 16th in the Sprint, 12th vs 19th in Quali. One swallow does not make a summer and all that, but encouraging stuff for Daniel.
Too little too late for his RBR ambitions, however, judging by Horner's comments about an Sainz offer.
Too little too late for his RBR ambitions, however, judging by Horner's comments about an Sainz offer.
usn90 said:
I’m aware of tolerances and have seen this happen with proper kart chassis, however to a certain extent they are mass produced.
So I’m a little surprised that f1 teams have these issues
With lots of NDT, the teams *should* be able to ensure that chassis are to spec. But it isn’t straightforward. A mistake during lay-up, some adhesive not up to spec, or all manner of other issues can cause what is essentially a one-off construction to be compromised in some way. There have been many times in the past when drivers have complained of a poor-handling car, been dismissed, and then vindicated by a chassis change or a more in-depth investigation reveals a hitherto-missed defect. It’s hard for most of us to grasp how tiny are the margins that separate the performance of these cars.So I’m a little surprised that f1 teams have these issues
skwdenyer said:
usn90 said:
I’m aware of tolerances and have seen this happen with proper kart chassis, however to a certain extent they are mass produced.
So I’m a little surprised that f1 teams have these issues
With lots of NDT, the teams *should* be able to ensure that chassis are to spec. But it isn’t straightforward. A mistake during lay-up, some adhesive not up to spec, or all manner of other issues can cause what is essentially a one-off construction to be compromised in some way. There have been many times in the past when drivers have complained of a poor-handling car, been dismissed, and then vindicated by a chassis change or a more in-depth investigation reveals a hitherto-missed defect. It’s hard for most of us to grasp how tiny are the margins that separate the performance of these cars.So I’m a little surprised that f1 teams have these issues
The issue here is that DR must have had several sub standard chassis' at this point as his performance and confidence has been low since... the last time he drove for RBR. And I'm including his time at Renault in that, where he wasn't 'bad' by any stretch, but also not great and there were endless mistakes and excuses.
I remain hopeful he still has it and that the excuses are real and solve able, he was previously a very exciting driver and seriously hot property on the grid. But hope aside, the reality suggests he's somehow lost his edge. I hope I'm wrong but hope, is just hope - it doesn't win points!
skwdenyer said:
With lots of NDT, the teams *should* be able to ensure that chassis are to spec. But it isn’t straightforward. A mistake during lay-up, some adhesive not up to spec, or all manner of other issues can cause what is essentially a one-off construction to be compromised in some way. There have been many times in the past when drivers have complained of a poor-handling car, been dismissed, and then vindicated by a chassis change or a more in-depth investigation reveals a hitherto-missed defect. It’s hard for most of us to grasp how tiny are the margins that separate the performance of these cars.
Or Ricciardo was less of his usual (crap) self this weekend and had a decent showing for once and there's nothing to say he won't return to the norm for him nowadays the next race weekend whatever chassis he might be using......ThingsBehindTheSun said:
How many more races do we think he has before he is given the boot and Liam Lawson gets the drive? I feel like they might wait until the summer break, but to be honest he is not going to get any better so they might as well do the old switcheroo now.
They'll wait until the summer break.You're probably right that he won't magically improve enough to keep the seat, but there is always a possibility and they might as well give him as much time as they can without limiting Lawson's time this year to get used to car and F1 in general. Lawson doesn't need more than half a season to do that - so might as well give the full first half season to DR and see what, if anything, he can demonstrate.
Although this weekend he was doing really well, actually - but was then shat upon by fate/circumstance/Stroll... So maybe there is still hope? Time will tell, and he does have a some time left.
TheDeuce said:
They'll wait until the summer break.
You're probably right that he won't magically improve enough to keep the seat, but there is always a possibility and they might as well give him as much time as they can without limiting Lawson's time this year to get used to car and F1 in general. Lawson doesn't need more than half a season to do that - so might as well give the full first half season to DR and see what, if anything, he can demonstrate.
Although this weekend he was doing really well, actually - but was then shat upon by fate/circumstance/Stroll... So maybe there is still hope? Time will tell, and he does have a some time left.
If the team had called him in for the obvious pit stop, he wouldn’t have been in front of Lance…You're probably right that he won't magically improve enough to keep the seat, but there is always a possibility and they might as well give him as much time as they can without limiting Lawson's time this year to get used to car and F1 in general. Lawson doesn't need more than half a season to do that - so might as well give the full first half season to DR and see what, if anything, he can demonstrate.
Although this weekend he was doing really well, actually - but was then shat upon by fate/circumstance/Stroll... So maybe there is still hope? Time will tell, and he does have a some time left.
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