Official 2022 Monaco Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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Sandpit Steve said:
The lack of stupid nicknames, and sarcastic partisan posts like football fans, is what used to set this forum above most of the rest of them.
True. I do not think the people that agreed it was childish call out other silly nicknames though.In fact, I was so convinced some s
t sling at any opportunity, I checked. I was correct.PhilAsia said:
Zarco said:
RB Will said:
Piginapoke said:
Please stop with the Gifted nonsense
+1 it isn’t clever or funny, it just makes look like someone with Tourette’s is posting. Gifted could refer to Abu Dhabi, '21 or Max' excellent skills when he choses to be sportsmanlike.
can't wait for those bemoaning & wanting to stop the childish insults to post links to all the times they've previously called it out when other drivers have been on the receiving end
angrymoby said:
PhilAsia said:
Zarco said:
RB Will said:
Piginapoke said:
Please stop with the Gifted nonsense
+1 it isn’t clever or funny, it just makes look like someone with Tourette’s is posting. Gifted could refer to Abu Dhabi, '21 or Max' excellent skills when he choses to be sportsmanlike.
can't wait for those bemoaning & wanting to stop the childish insults to post links to all the times they've previously called it out when other drivers have been on the receiving end
Piginapoke said:
Byker28i said:
Smap oversteer would mean an instant jerk and reaction on the wheel, as we've often seen Gifted do before. His car copntrol and responses can't be questioned. That was a controlled gentle input to the wheel to maintain track position.
I'm not saying thats wrong, I'm sure everyone would have done it, just that others would have ensured they were past the pit exit line first. It's these small mistakes that Gifted needs to correct if he's going to become one of F1 great drivers, without relying on favourable decisions
Still the precedent is set now. Drivers get an extra 0.3m or more of the track to use on pit exit...
Please stop with the Gifted nonsense I'm not saying thats wrong, I'm sure everyone would have done it, just that others would have ensured they were past the pit exit line first. It's these small mistakes that Gifted needs to correct if he's going to become one of F1 great drivers, without relying on favourable decisions
Still the precedent is set now. Drivers get an extra 0.3m or more of the track to use on pit exit...
jm doc said:
You may not like it but it's absolutely correct. Why should people support your attempts at airbrushing history?
Well he was not gifted anything for a start. They didn’t just give him the WDC. He was by odd circumstance put in a very helpful position but still, in the highest pressure situation of his life, he had one opportunity to get past a near 8 time WDC (the GOAT some will say) whilst driving a car that had been slower all day. He then had to defend from same faster car and decent driver on long straights twice.
Whatever you want to call the FIA shenanigans that gave rise to the situation fair enough but seems a bit unreasonable to belittle what Max did and call him names for taking advantage of the situation.
No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed.
RB Will said:
jm doc said:
You may not like it but it's absolutely correct. Why should people support your attempts at airbrushing history?
Well he was not gifted anything for a start. They didn’t just give him the WDC. He was by odd circumstance put in a very helpful position but still, in the highest pressure situation of his life, he had one opportunity to get past a near 8 time WDC (the GOAT some will say) whilst driving a car that had been slower all day. He then had to defend from same faster car and decent driver on long straights twice.
Whatever you want to call the FIA shenanigans that gave rise to the situation fair enough but seems a bit unreasonable to belittle what Max did and call him names for taking advantage of the situation.
No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed.
It was not Max' fault, but it was a gift.
"...No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed..." - and no way you would not mention it at every opportunity given your history.
Edited by PhilAsia on Friday 3rd June 01:04
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"...No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed..." - and no way you would not mention it at every opportunity given your history.
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I think I only generally tend to speak up about Lewis when people seem to not acknowledge reality and whitewash his history of iffy driving / behaviour. Notice I’m calling him Lewis, not Blessed or Lulu.
I’m not involved in the sport I’m not bothered enough by what happened last year to be hanging on to the whole gifted, WDC* like a load on here.
"...No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed..." - and no way you would not mention it at every opportunity given your history.
Edited by PhilAsia on Friday 3rd June 01:04
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I think I only generally tend to speak up about Lewis when people seem to not acknowledge reality and whitewash his history of iffy driving / behaviour. Notice I’m calling him Lewis, not Blessed or Lulu.
I’m not involved in the sport I’m not bothered enough by what happened last year to be hanging on to the whole gifted, WDC* like a load on here.
PhilAsia said:
RB Will said:
jm doc said:
You may not like it but it's absolutely correct. Why should people support your attempts at airbrushing history?
Well he was not gifted anything for a start. They didn’t just give him the WDC. He was by odd circumstance put in a very helpful position but still, in the highest pressure situation of his life, he had one opportunity to get past a near 8 time WDC (the GOAT some will say) whilst driving a car that had been slower all day. He then had to defend from same faster car and decent driver on long straights twice.
Whatever you want to call the FIA shenanigans that gave rise to the situation fair enough but seems a bit unreasonable to belittle what Max did and call him names for taking advantage of the situation.
No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed.
It was not Max' fault, but it was a gift.
"...No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed..." - and no way you would not mention it at every opportunity given your history.
Edited by PhilAsia on Friday 3rd June 01:04
I also saw a stewards enquiry video the other day where the lead horse had wandered across in front of the second place horse at the last jump. When asked the second jockey said that he would never have attempted to draw alongside at the last fence and therefore there couldn’t have been any impeding. He came second not first because of that.
Edited by talksthetorque on Friday 3rd June 10:52
Zarco said:
PhilAsia said:
Zarco said:
RB Will said:
Piginapoke said:
Please stop with the Gifted nonsense
+1 it isn’t clever or funny, it just makes look like someone with Tourette’s is posting. Gifted could refer to Abu Dhabi, '21 or Max' excellent skills when he choses to be sportsmanlike.
I quite like Whinger Spice just because it amuses me.
talksthetorque said:
PhilAsia said:
RB Will said:
jm doc said:
You may not like it but it's absolutely correct. Why should people support your attempts at airbrushing history?
Well he was not gifted anything for a start. They didn’t just give him the WDC. He was by odd circumstance put in a very helpful position but still, in the highest pressure situation of his life, he had one opportunity to get past a near 8 time WDC (the GOAT some will say) whilst driving a car that had been slower all day. He then had to defend from same faster car and decent driver on long straights twice.
Whatever you want to call the FIA shenanigans that gave rise to the situation fair enough but seems a bit unreasonable to belittle what Max did and call him names for taking advantage of the situation.
No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed.
It was not Max' fault, but it was a gift.
"...No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed..." - and no way you would not mention it at every opportunity given your history.
Edited by PhilAsia on Friday 3rd June 01:04
I also saw a stewards enquiry video the other day where the lead horse had wandered across in front of the second place horse at the last jump. When asked the second jockey said that he would never have attempted to draw alongside at the last fence and therefore there couldn’t have been any impeding. He came second not first because of that.
Edited by talksthetorque on Friday 3rd June 10:52
I once had the pleasure to play Efren "Bata" Reyes, the pool "Hall of Famer". Since then, he always comes up me whenever he sees me and says "hi" much to everyone's surprise.
The reason (I think...) was due to an incident when we were playing in an exhibition he was giving one time and, when settling down on a shot, I got up, picked up the white and passed it to him. Everyone, including Efren, was surprised and wondered wtf I was doing. I informed Efren I had felt a hair on my forearm touch a ball I was bridging over and had committed a foul.
He allowed me two racks, and then ran three straight 9 ball run outs for the win lol.
PhilAsia said:
RB Will said:
jm doc said:
You may not like it but it's absolutely correct. Why should people support your attempts at airbrushing history?
Well he was not gifted anything for a start. They didn’t just give him the WDC. He was by odd circumstance put in a very helpful position but still, in the highest pressure situation of his life, he had one opportunity to get past a near 8 time WDC (the GOAT some will say) whilst driving a car that had been slower all day. He then had to defend from same faster car and decent driver on long straights twice.
Whatever you want to call the FIA shenanigans that gave rise to the situation fair enough but seems a bit unreasonable to belittle what Max did and call him names for taking advantage of the situation.
No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed.
It was not Max' fault, but it was a gift.
"...No way on Earth would Lewis have done anything different if the roles were reversed..." - and no way you would not mention it at every opportunity given your history.
Edited by PhilAsia on Friday 3rd June 01:04
Its all about the ratings and viewers (and ultimately advertising) darling...
If they had just waited one more year...
but also I think that one more year would have been good for MaxMonaco showed again that Max (happy now) isn't the great, amazing driver that his cult make him out to be. He makes many little mistakes through overdriving, losing time, and those small mistakes on using too much of the track. It's not just the pit exit this time, it was in qualifying, and many of the previous races. You might say it's trying too hard but it's costing him time.
One wonders whether being gifted the WDC is in the back of his mind and he's trying too hard. Red Bull have the best car with Ferrari close behind, but at the moment Charles is outdriving him by a mile.
Anyhow, onto the next race...
Edited by Byker28i on Friday 3rd June 11:25
Byker28i said:
One wonders whether being gifted the WDC is in the back of his mind and he's trying too hard. Red Bull have the best car with Ferrari close behind, but at the moment Charles is outdriving him by a mile.
That has to be a joke or wind up attempt surely? Before Monaco, Max won every single race he didn't DNF! Conversely, Leclerc threw away a bunch of points in Imola when he spun at the chicane. Edited by Byker28i on Friday 3rd June 11:25
If anything Max is driving calmer and more calculated this season.
resolve10 said:
That has to be a joke or wind up attempt surely? Before Monaco, Max won every single race he didn't DNF! Conversely, Leclerc threw away a bunch of points in Imola when he spun at the chicane.
If anything Max is driving calmer and more calculated this season.
I'd put them about equal, both have been very unlucky on occasions and both have made mistakes.If anything Max is driving calmer and more calculated this season.
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