The Official F1 2023 silly season *contains speculation*
Discussion
the-norseman said:
is #0 available as a pick?
No, only 2-99 excluding 17 (Jules Bianchi's number).0 became available to Williams under the old numbering regime. As winning constructor they were allocated 1 and 2, but 1 is allocated to the WDC and Mansell had been fired. Hence they got 0 (Damon Hill) and 2 (Alain Prost who said that nobody wanted to be a zero).
Mclaren do look very strong on the driver front, I found myself wondering the other day if Daniel Ric was a fair reflection of where the McLaren actually was over the past 2 years and Lando is just a megastar waiting for his big chance. Next year will tell a lot when Piastri gets going, nice to have Palou available for comparisons too.
patmahe said:
Mclaren do look very strong on the driver front, I found myself wondering the other day if Daniel Ric was a fair reflection of where the McLaren actually was over the past 2 years and Lando is just a megastar waiting for his big chance. Next year will tell a lot when Piastri gets going, nice to have Palou available for comparisons too.
Yep, gonna be another Lewis/Russell type situation for me. I think Lando is the real deal and Piastri looks like he will bring it on raceday too.2023
As expected, the Chinese GP has been cancelled.
https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-grand-prix-canc...
https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-grand-prix-canc...
carl_w said:
As expected, the Chinese GP has been cancelled.
https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-grand-prix-canc...
As mentioned a few pages back..https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-grand-prix-canc...
We could do
Kyalami, Istanbul, Fuji..or just take the trucks to Portimau, Mugello or even the ‘ring. or Sepang (night race?)
Can't have this cost cap played about with, the teams would all lose 1/23rd!
carl_w said:
the-norseman said:
is #0 available as a pick?
No, only 2-99 excluding 17 (Jules Bianchi's number).0 became available to Williams under the old numbering regime. As winning constructor they were allocated 1 and 2, but 1 is allocated to the WDC and Mansell had been fired. Hence they got 0 (Damon Hill) and 2 (Alain Prost who said that nobody wanted to be a zero).
They simply didn't agree a new contract.
carl_w said:
As expected, the Chinese GP has been cancelled.
https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-grand-prix-canc...
Be surprised if it ever comes back. Can't see 2024 being any different to 2023 while China continues the current policy.https://news.sky.com/story/chinese-grand-prix-canc...
carl_w said:
the-norseman said:
is #0 available as a pick?
No, only 2-99 excluding 17 (Jules Bianchi's number).0 became available to Williams under the old numbering regime. As winning constructor they were allocated 1 and 2, but 1 is allocated to the WDC and Mansell had been fired. Hence they got 0 (Damon Hill) and 2 (Alain Prost who said that nobody wanted to be a zero).
Off topic but God moto gp bikes are cool, look at all the movement, action and detail you can see in that one photo. I suppose the rider being so exposed means you can see a lot more, in F1 you can just about see a head bobbing around, its safer for sure but you do lose something hiding the drivers the way we do now.
The only F1 photo I've seen that comes close to showing just how hard the modern car/drivers actually work is this one: most of the time they look so stable its almost boring.
The only F1 photo I've seen that comes close to showing just how hard the modern car/drivers actually work is this one: most of the time they look so stable its almost boring.
PhilAsia said:
Yep, gonna be another Lewis/Russell type situation for me. I think Lando is the real deal and Piastri looks like he will bring it on raceday too.
2023
I don’t think there’s any mystery around why ricciardo was crap at mclaren. The car didn’t have a lot of front end and what front end it did have was finnicky to the point you could not steam into corners and get good turn in. Lando could deal with that. Ricc definitely couldn’t, having come from redbull (always mega front end ala verstappen) and Renault which was similar. 2023
Similar reason as to why Perez was briefly good vs max at the beginning of the season. Front and back nicely balanced vs max’s preference of as much front end as possible and I’ll deal with the back end, which Perez clearly cannot adopt.
patmahe said:
Off topic but God moto gp bikes are cool, look at all the movement, action and detail you can see in that one photo. I suppose the rider being so exposed means you can see a lot more, in F1 you can just about see a head bobbing around, its safer for sure but you do lose something hiding the drivers the way we do now.
You're going to have to explain to me what is going on in that photo of the motorbike. To my eyes it looks as though it has just had the side stand photoshopped out. Bowser87 said:
PhilAsia said:
Yep, gonna be another Lewis/Russell type situation for me. I think Lando is the real deal and Piastri looks like he will bring it on raceday too.
2023
I don’t think there’s any mystery around why ricciardo was crap at mclaren. The car didn’t have a lot of front end and what front end it did have was finnicky to the point you could not steam into corners and get good turn in. Lando could deal with that. Ricc definitely couldn’t, having come from redbull (always mega front end ala verstappen) and Renault which was similar. 2023
Similar reason as to why Perez was briefly good vs max at the beginning of the season. Front and back nicely balanced vs max’s preference of as much front end as possible and I’ll deal with the back end, which Perez clearly cannot adopt.
I wonder to what extent there is a perfect car set up vs what a driver likes. One would imagine that 50/50 weight and downforce distribution would be optimum everywhere, or maybe a slight front end bias if you wanted to rotate the car quicker. I'd love to see a breakdown of why, for example, Merc thought Lewis' singapore qualifying was faster than the car was capable of.
Bowser87 said:
PhilAsia said:
Yep, gonna be another Lewis/Russell type situation for me. I think Lando is the real deal and Piastri looks like he will bring it on raceday too.
2023
I don’t think there’s any mystery around why ricciardo was crap at mclaren. The car didn’t have a lot of front end and what front end it did have was finnicky to the point you could not steam into corners and get good turn in. Lando could deal with that. Ricc definitely couldn’t, having come from redbull (always mega front end ala verstappen) and Renault which was similar. 2023
Similar reason as to why Perez was briefly good vs max at the beginning of the season. Front and back nicely balanced vs max’s preference of as much front end as possible and I’ll deal with the back end, which Perez clearly cannot adopt.
patmahe said:
Off topic but God moto gp bikes are cool, look at all the movement, action and detail you can see in that one photo. I suppose the rider being so exposed means you can see a lot more, in F1 you can just about see a head bobbing around, its safer for sure but you do lose something hiding the drivers the way we do now.
The only F1 photo I've seen that comes close to showing just how hard the modern car/drivers actually work is this one: most of the time they look so stable its almost boring.
Some of the video we're treated to from MotoGP is sublime. F1 has the capability but I guess they'd rather dumb it down, enter David "crofty" croft, lacks the imagination even for a decent nickname, although I bet we could think of a few.The only F1 photo I've seen that comes close to showing just how hard the modern car/drivers actually work is this one: most of the time they look so stable its almost boring.
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