The Official F1 2023 silly season *contains speculation*
Discussion
HustleRussell said:
HustleRussell in the Silly Season 2024 thread a couple of weeks ago said:
Devries having a shocker. Liam Lawson in that car before the end of the 2023 season?
Too soon to take de Vries out IMO, they want to know whether he could be a decent F1 driver and it is too soon to have answered that question. Ricciardo won't want to drive for Alpha Tauri in anything more than a stand-in capacity because he saw what happened to Gasly. The threat to de Vries comes from Lawson.
te then half a season is enough and he should be thankful to RB for at least giving him a shot rather than spending another 4 years watching F1 races over Toto's shoulder. Mark-C said:
Certainly for a younger driver you'd be mad (or already tied to someone else) not to take an Alpha Tauri seat. Any chance you have to show you're special has to be grabbed. Beating Tsunoda will not prove you're the next Senna but it will get you exposure and probably some points as well. The risk is you get hoofed out early but that's not something you'd worry about if you believed in yourself.
Yeah, you can argue all day that the RB young driver setup is designed to spit out drivers, but every one of the British F4 drivers thinks they’re the next Lewis Hamilton. Having a massive ego is simply part of being in that top performance bracket. They’d all take the RB programme if it was offered, unless a better team is also making them an offer. 
Oldwolf said:
Deesee said:
Bezos and Musk teaming up for an offer on F1..
Loose change
I'll walk you through my reactions....Loose change
Hmm...
Oh s
t A rollercoaster 2 minutes
In all seriousness I know ( so far) they have sold 12x 1 million dollar ticket vegas packages, and 1x the 5 million dollar ticket package. That was the fee for the last hockenheim GP for context.
I’m all for a space x flyer over.. helicopter, na I’m coming in on one of those reverse rockets.
Net zero and sustainable fuels
F1 hold my beer.Different level.
Deesee said:
In all seriousness I know ( so far) they have sold 12x 1 million dollar ticket vegas packages, and 1x the 5 million dollar ticket package. That was the fee for the last hockenheim GP for context.
I’m all for a space x flyer over.. helicopter, na I’m coming in on one of those reverse rockets.
Net zero and sustainable fuels
F1 hold my beer.Different level.
I’d love to know what the $5 million ticket gets you that the $1 million ticket doesn’t quite deliver on.
Other than sitting on Max’ lap for a Q3 pole run, I think I’d slum it with the peasants and save $4 million.
Actually, I don’t want to know, it’s all a bit mental really.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.leclerc...
More to the point does Vasseur have complete trust in Leclerc?
More to the point does Vasseur have complete trust in Leclerc?
Smollet said:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.leclerc...
More to the point does Vasseur have complete trust in Leclerc?
Who else is he going to trust? Saintz isn't quick enough and the only top available driver for '24 is Hamilton.More to the point does Vasseur have complete trust in Leclerc?
Mercedes have shown their ability to mess things up two years in a row but would Hamilton really jump ship to a Ferrari who are obviously in a transitory position (new TP and Meckies doing a runner).
Pflanzgarten said:
Smollet said:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.leclerc...
More to the point does Vasseur have complete trust in Leclerc?
Who else is he going to trust? Saintz isn't quick enough and the only top available driver for '24 is Hamilton.More to the point does Vasseur have complete trust in Leclerc?
Mercedes have shown their ability to mess things up two years in a row but would Hamilton really jump ship to a Ferrari who are obviously in a transitory position (new TP and Meckies doing a runner).
Hamilton won't move, unless Ferrari fund him a clothing line, and drop Big Big money.
Most likely replacement who be George. Quick enough over one lap, less mistakes than Charl, and cheap as chips to pay.
Nova Gyna said:
Deesee said:
In all seriousness I know ( so far) they have sold 12x 1 million dollar ticket vegas packages, and 1x the 5 million dollar ticket package. That was the fee for the last hockenheim GP for context.
I’m all for a space x flyer over.. helicopter, na I’m coming in on one of those reverse rockets.
Net zero and sustainable fuels
F1 hold my beer.Different level.
I’d love to know what the $5 million ticket gets you that the $1 million ticket doesn’t quite deliver on.
Deesee said:
Yuki (and Zhou) both out of contract in 2023, Yuki is settled in Italy (unlike his stay in the UK).
Hamilton won't move, unless Ferrari fund him a clothing line, and drop Big Big money.
Most likely replacement who be George. Quick enough over one lap, less mistakes than Charl, and cheap as chips to pay.
I'm out of contract too and about as likely to get the top Ferrari seat as Tsunoda and Zhou.Hamilton won't move, unless Ferrari fund him a clothing line, and drop Big Big money.
Most likely replacement who be George. Quick enough over one lap, less mistakes than Charl, and cheap as chips to pay.
Ferrari undoubtedly can afford Hamilton but that's about as much as I'd like to guess on that subject. Toto ain't letting George go anywhere and I suspect he's happy doing a few years in a s
t box Mercedes as anywhere else.Two points I know to be true, I've been told by someone who nows him that George is a changed character from his Williams days at Mercedes, he's working incredibly hard, has pretty much zero down time and rarely hangs around with the other drivers any more.
The other point is when signing with Ferrari you sell your soul. They (and it used to be Phillip Morris but I'm not certain on that now) own you and expect paying back. Anyone who's had Ferrari hospitality knows this.
I could be wrong but I wouldn't expect Hamilton to put up with that.
Just my own musings...If Ferrari could get Hamilton on their terms they would, even if it involved dumping Leclerc. We've seen a lot of teams investing in the future drivers, I just don't think Ferrari needed to do that.
Would Ferrari have had any meaningfully worse results if they'd have stuck with Vettel?
Leithen said:
I think Leclerc and Sainz are quick enough. The car is a bag of ste however.
It’s almost as if they’ve done a deal with Pirelli to normalise excessive tyre wear in return for very favourable terms for P Zeros across road car production and dealer supply.
From what I've seen on TV and heard/read the car is 'peaky' in that it has a very narrow performance window and becomes unstable outside that window, hence Sainz and Leclerc having so many offs. te however. It’s almost as if they’ve done a deal with Pirelli to normalise excessive tyre wear in return for very favourable terms for P Zeros across road car production and dealer supply.
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