Naomi Schiff

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Peacockantony

257 posts

160 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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zsdom said:
Bit harsh, that wasnt aimed at you in anyway, it was aimed at the question asked, but its true, I've said before: Natalie Pinkham, Rachel Brookes, Lee Mckenzie et al don't have their own threads, but as soon as a woman of colour comes along she gets 40 pages.
That is because those 3 are employed as presenters or reporters, jobs they are all well experienced in. If any of them had the equivalent experience in their fields as Schiff does they would not be working for Sky.

Right now you have Schiff & Chadwick, both drivers that failed to reach even F3, employed as professional driver pundits and repeatedly thrown questions instead of the former F1 drivers stood beside them, a pretty evident agenda from Sky. At least Patrick has actually driven in top level racing. Albeit American racing...

If Sky had employed two uber-privileged failed male drivers that couldn't even reach F3 to act as professional driver pundits they would have been heavily slated and their presence questioned, but because they're uber-privileged female drivers people just clap along. Social conditioning works.

While Sky's prices have gone up and up every year, the quality of the coverage has dropped far more drastically. Oh the good old days of the BBC coverage, now that was worth watching!

Edited by Peacockantony on Sunday 22 October 22:37

Greg_B

192 posts

41 months

Sunday 22nd October 2023
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MissChief said:
I quite liked Jamie Chadwick on the Grid today. I wonder if she will draw the same amount of vitriol as Naomi seems to.
Can’t see why. She is actually credible and good, plus she doesn’t come across as an insufferable expert.

Niponeoff

2,105 posts

28 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Peacockantony said:
zsdom said:
Bit harsh, that wasnt aimed at you in anyway, it was aimed at the question asked, but its true, I've said before: Natalie Pinkham, Rachel Brookes, Lee Mckenzie et al don't have their own threads, but as soon as a woman of colour comes along she gets 40 pages.
That is because those 3 are employed as presenters or reporters, jobs they are all well experienced in. If any of them had the equivalent experience in their fields as Schiff does they would not be working for Sky.

Right now you have Schiff & Chadwick, both drivers that failed to reach even F3, employed as professional driver pundits and repeatedly thrown questions instead of the former F1 drivers stood beside them, a pretty evident agenda from Sky. At least Patrick has actually driven in top level racing. Albeit American racing...

If Sky had employed two uber-privileged failed male drivers that couldn't even reach F3 to act as professional driver pundits they would have been heavily slated and their presence questioned, but because they're uber-privileged female drivers people just clap along. Social conditioning works.

While Sky's prices have gone up and up every year, the quality of the coverage has dropped far more drastically. Oh the good old days of the BBC coverage, now that was worth watching!

Edited by Peacockantony on Sunday 22 October 22:37
Billy monger

520TORQUES

4,523 posts

16 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Niponeoff said:
Billy monger
Billy was quick, even managed to win a race in single seaters after losing his legs.

andygo

6,804 posts

256 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Billy M is on a 'Cross the World', ininiative test TV programme where 'celebs' have to travel on little moneny across Europe.

He comes over as a nice normal guy (together with his sister) with a humble and good approach to life. He seems the same when he commentates. Hre also doesn't start sentences with the word 'look'...

Peacockantony

257 posts

160 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Niponeoff said:
Billy monger
Without his accident, he would have not been employed by Channel 4. He ticks boxes too.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Peacockantony said:
Niponeoff said:
Billy monger
Without his accident, he would have not been employed by Channel 4. He ticks boxes too.
Absolutely agree, nice lad but he doesn't have the confidence and charisma to be a TV presenter.

Niponeoff

2,105 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Peacockantony said:
Niponeoff said:
Billy monger
Without his accident, he would have not been employed by Channel 4. He ticks boxes too.
I don't think Alex Brundle got far as a drive either, but I rate him as a presenter. Sounds a lot like his dad.

generationx

6,762 posts

106 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Niponeoff said:
Peacockantony said:
Niponeoff said:
Billy monger
Without his accident, he would have not been employed by Channel 4. He ticks boxes too.
I don't think Alex Brundle got far as a drive either, but I rate him as a presenter. Sounds a lot like his dad.
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Alex was a very accomplished sportscar driver. Like father, like son!

super7

1,936 posts

209 months

Friday 8th March
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Oh my god….. She’s back talking about experiences she’s never had with the authority of a World champion….




Jasandjules

69,922 posts

230 months

Friday 8th March
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super7 said:
Oh my god….. She’s back talking about experiences she’s never had with the authority of a World champion….
It was kind of amusing last weekend when Simon said something like "I am joined by Damian, World Champion in 1996 and Karun Chandock who drove XX races in F1, and Noami Schiff"......



Jordie Barretts sock

4,161 posts

20 months

Friday 8th March
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I also noticed Damon pulling faces behind her back last week. A wide shot that I don't think he realised he was on camera.

T_16

118 posts

41 months

Friday 8th March
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Naomi Schiff has nice legs though.
Everyone needs some eye candy!

JNW1

7,798 posts

195 months

Friday 8th March
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Jasandjules said:
super7 said:
Oh my god….. She’s back talking about experiences she’s never had with the authority of a World champion….
It was kind of amusing last weekend when Simon said something like "I am joined by Damian, World Champion in 1996 and Karun Chandock who drove XX races in F1, and Noami Schiff"......
At one of the F1 races last year (Las Vegas if memory serves me right) Jenson Button and Danica Patrick were involved in an argument/discussion which ended with Patrick conceding the point by saying words to the effect of "you've driven an F1 car and I haven't". At the time I thought fair play to her for saying that but it also left me thinking why is Sky employing someone as an expert pundit on F1 when she's never competed in the sport? I know the answer of course but (IMHO) it's a poor do when someone's employed because of their gender rather than the expertise and insight they bring.

andygo

6,804 posts

256 months

Friday 8th March
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JNW1 said:
At one of the F1 races last year (Las Vegas if memory serves me right) Jenson Button and Danica Patrick were involved in an argument/discussion which ended with Patrick conceding the point by saying words to the effect of "you've driven an F1 car and I haven't". At the time I thought fair play to her for saying that but it also left me thinking why is Sky employing someone as an expert pundit on F1 when she's never competed in the sport? I know the answer of course but (IMHO) it's a poor do when someone's employed because of their gender rather than the expertise and insight they bring.
Look, I'm not sure if it was just her gender TBH.

T_16

118 posts

41 months

Friday 8th March
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andygo said:
Look, I'm not sure if it was just her gender TBH.
I think its plain to see for all it was.
Danica babbles absolute nonsense, but at least shes nice to look at, so I can handle it. Crofty on the other hand.....has almost nothing going for him in any department whatsoever.

Jordie Barretts sock

4,161 posts

20 months

Friday 8th March
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Let's be totally honest here. Naomi would be out of her depth on a freshly mopped floor.

hammo19

5,011 posts

197 months

Friday 8th March
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She always looks like she has stepped out of the Met Gala. Oh and that awful fake posh accent….

tele_lover

307 posts

16 months

Friday 8th March
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It's not her fault but she should not be there. They should not have put her in such an awkward position.

It's like having an ex Conference/National League South footballer discussing a Champions League match from the players' perspectives.

Jordie Barretts sock

4,161 posts

20 months

Saturday 9th March
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Very good analogy.

She is probably a lovely person, but she just adds nothing to the show.