Official 2022 Brazilian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

[PhilAsia]

satfinal said:

ok we get it

According to the double down on the indefensible, many clearly do not!

[595Heaven]

jm doc said:

595Heaven said:

Sandpit Steve said:

Yep, disappointing.

To be fair, the midfield teams have never been closer to each other, it’s just that there’s a clear gap from the top three teams to the rest, in an environment where cars are more reliable than ever and where the authorities have an aversion to rain.

Hopefully, the wind tunnel restrictions will serve over time to close up the field, but that will take a few years.

A good point about the rain - it has enabled great drivers in not so great cars to display their talents plenty of times in the past. The treatment of rain in the last few seasons has been very frustrating. No one wants to see accidents, but it denies the braverbest drivers a chance to shine in the wet.

Fixed that for you

[Piginapoke]

PhilAsia said:

Red Bull have thrown a smorgasbord of updates at Mr Creosote Max' car to continue to ensure the 0.5 - 1.5 sec per lap buffet to MB in response...

Can we stop this stuff, there’s a thread dedicated to the cost cap for those who feel the need.

[Muntu]

F20CN16 said:

Piginapoke said:

Can we stop this stuff, there’s a thread dedicated to the cost cap for those who feel the need.

Just as long as you also police people making fun of other teams

TBH it is super fking tedious for those of us who are not tribal and come to the "Official" threads for race information and insight.

[Piginapoke]

Muntu said:

F20CN16 said:

Piginapoke said:

Can we stop this stuff, there’s a thread dedicated to the cost cap for those who feel the need.

Just as long as you also police people making fun of other teams

TBH it is super fking tedious for those of us who are not tribal and come to the "Official" threads for race information and insight.

Agreed!

[Piginapoke]

F20CN16 said:

Piginapoke said:

Can we stop this stuff, there’s a thread dedicated to the cost cap for those who feel the need.

Just as long as you also police people making fun of other teams

And agreed!

[Deesee]

HustleRussell said:

McLaren have posted on Twitter this afternoon that Lando has food poisoning. They are expecting him back at the track tomorrow. The only reserve McLaren have on site is Nyck de Vries.

Could be pretty big for the McLaren / Alpine battle if Mclaren’s point scorer is off sick!

De Vries has had his seat fitting now and is ready for today.

In a season of uncovering strange / badly constructed rules we may hit another one this week.

To drive in the race a driver must take part in a practice session, with this week if Lando returns to full health but misses Quali will they put him at the back of the grid for the sprint, if he can make FP2?

[satfinal]

PhilAsia said:

satfinal said:

ok we get it

According to the double down on the indefensible, many clearly do not!

it's more the year 2 art projects you keep posting

[Sandpit Steve]

Deesee said:

De Vries has had his seat fitting now and is ready for today.

In a season of uncovering strange / badly constructed rules we may hit another one this week.

To drive in the race a driver must take part in a practice session, with this week if Lando returns to full health but misses Quali will they put him at the back of the grid for the sprint, if he can make FP2?

It would be interesting to ask an opinion of the Stewards, if the Sprint serves as a practice session for the purpose of this rule.

Yes, if he’s in FP2 that would be fine, but I doubt he’d be able to use someone else qualifying performance, so he’d need to start at the back for the Sprint.

[Diderot]

Piginapoke said:

Muntu said:

F20CN16 said:

Piginapoke said:

Can we stop this stuff, there’s a thread dedicated to the cost cap for those who feel the need.

Just as long as you also police people making fun of other teams

TBH it is super fking tedious for those of us who are not tribal and come to the "Official" threads for race information and insight.

Agreed!

Agreed. The guy is either 12 years old or he’s completely obsessed.

[Deesee]

Piginapoke said:

Merc is using its big old rear wing for Brazil

It’s the only way they can balance the car from the aero at the front, no significant upgrades for a long time (cost cap).

It will be interesting to see what path they take next year, and if they copy the Red Bull rear suspension & attempt to trim the drag.

[Piginapoke]

Deesee said:

Piginapoke said:

Merc is using its big old rear wing for Brazil

It’s the only way they can balance the car from the aero at the front, no significant upgrades for a long time (cost cap).

It will be interesting to see what path they take next year, and if they copy the Red Bull rear suspension & attempt to trim the drag.

Yep, Merc’s concept will be really interesting next year, but the team has a history of going its own way compared to the field. Whatever they do, I guess the key things will be A) less drag B) bigger operating window meaning it can have some suspension compliance.

[PhilAsia]

Piginapoke said:

Deesee said:

Piginapoke said:

Merc is using its big old rear wing for Brazil

It’s the only way they can balance the car from the aero at the front, no significant upgrades for a long time (cost cap).

It will be interesting to see what path they take next year, and if they copy the Red Bull rear suspension & attempt to trim the drag.

Yep, Merc’s concept will be really interesting next year, but the team has a history of going its own way compared to the field. Whatever they do, I guess the key things will be A) less drag B) bigger operating window meaning it can have some suspension compliance.

The only reason I posted my reply was to this. I could not open the pic fully and I thought it was another of your "spicy" engine type comments which you have made in the past. On this post I can see that I was incorrect and will remove the offending post.

There were recently posts comparing the untightened screws on the wing in Brazil to the overspend for the 2021 season by RBR.

[Jasandjules]

I guess they don't need much top end save as for the two DRS zones. But still surprised to see such a large rear wing, hopefully the front aero will allow them the Mercs to get the speed needed. But if Red Bull get ahead I can't see them having the straight line speed to overtake, still just too draggy

[Jon_Bmw]

Wet Setup?

[McAndy]

Jon_Bmw said:

Wet Setup?

A tap usually works for me. Hosepipe optional.

(Sorry...ish...)

[Piginapoke]

PhilAsia said:

Piginapoke said:

Deesee said:

Piginapoke said:

Merc is using its big old rear wing for Brazil

It’s the only way they can balance the car from the aero at the front, no significant upgrades for a long time (cost cap).

It will be interesting to see what path they take next year, and if they copy the Red Bull rear suspension & attempt to trim the drag.

Yep, Merc’s concept will be really interesting next year, but the team has a history of going its own way compared to the field. Whatever they do, I guess the key things will be A) less drag B) bigger operating window meaning it can have some suspension compliance.

The only reason I posted my reply was to this. I could not open the pic fully and I thought it was another of your "spicy" engine type comments which you have made in the past. On this post I can see that I was incorrect and will remove the offending post.

There were recently posts comparing the untightened screws on the wing in Brazil to the overspend for the 2021 season by RBR.

Don’t worry about it, we’ve only two races left so lets enjoy them.

[paulguitar]

Piginapoke said:

Don’t worry about it, we’ve only two races left so lets enjoy them.

I just hope we get a race. It's easy to forget now, after months of Verstappen domination, but at the start of this season, we had some excellent races between Max and Charles. It looked like being something of a classic season for a while.

[595Heaven]

Diderot said:

Piginapoke said:

Muntu said:

F20CN16 said:

Piginapoke said:

Can we stop this stuff, there’s a thread dedicated to the cost cap for those who feel the need.

Just as long as you also police people making fun of other teams

TBH it is super fking tedious for those of us who are not tribal and come to the "Official" threads for race information and insight.

Agreed!

Agreed. The guy is either 12 years old or he’s completely obsessed.

Agree completely. The childish posters ruin pretty much every thread.

Please don’t give up PIAP - the ‘OFFICIAL xxxx’ thread is much appreciated by most.

[Deesee]

Jon_Bmw said:

Wet Setup?

Possibly, they have been raising the ride height to deal with that, if they are well off the pace in FP1, it could be a gamble for the mixed conditions for the sprint (sat) and the race.