Official 2022 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Thread **SPOILERS**
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alex_2015 said:
All that was RB team PR department instructions. Mentioning the "team", helping Checo, bla bla. Show unity outside to the public, sponsors, etc. You
could see by their dropped faces that something is going on over there after Brazil. Even their smiles look forced.
It's obvious that there was not the same degree of help SP provided MV last year on the same track. I remember the last laps MV on radio saying he helps SP by keeping the distance to CL to avoid giving him a tow. Yeah that was really helpful. It's another way of saying he does his own race without getting involved.
From life experience I can say that MV made his life unnecessarily complicated, I thought he was smarter and that has matured. But he is the same hot head. He will loose SP support. Yes SP will pretend to help him / obey team strategy but in practice will do everything not to be there in the spot. Also mama Verstappen throwing slops at Perez did not help either. Zero class. Shows a bit MV education background.
It was interesting also to see after Brazil the dropped faces of main RB team members. All the above must have caused internal turmoil, broke the relative fragile harmony that was before and for sure there were hard discussions. Look at MV in his interviews that he wasn't that tonic anymore and he looked preoccupied behind. I guess he realized what comes next. He lost one more "friend". As the saying: better have one friend than making one enemy.
I was a fan of MV last and this season, hoping he evolved into a real champion. But seeing this low moral display from his side it shows who he really is. He lost my appreciation.
Perez has been his own downfall when it comes to getting 2nd in the championship this season, in a car Verstappen has won 15 races in Perez has only managed to be on the podium at all 11 times... Red Bull were out done on strategy yesterday for once by Ferrari which put Perez out of position, but there's been 20 other races where Perez hasn't done a good enough job. could see by their dropped faces that something is going on over there after Brazil. Even their smiles look forced.
It's obvious that there was not the same degree of help SP provided MV last year on the same track. I remember the last laps MV on radio saying he helps SP by keeping the distance to CL to avoid giving him a tow. Yeah that was really helpful. It's another way of saying he does his own race without getting involved.
From life experience I can say that MV made his life unnecessarily complicated, I thought he was smarter and that has matured. But he is the same hot head. He will loose SP support. Yes SP will pretend to help him / obey team strategy but in practice will do everything not to be there in the spot. Also mama Verstappen throwing slops at Perez did not help either. Zero class. Shows a bit MV education background.
It was interesting also to see after Brazil the dropped faces of main RB team members. All the above must have caused internal turmoil, broke the relative fragile harmony that was before and for sure there were hard discussions. Look at MV in his interviews that he wasn't that tonic anymore and he looked preoccupied behind. I guess he realized what comes next. He lost one more "friend". As the saying: better have one friend than making one enemy.
I was a fan of MV last and this season, hoping he evolved into a real champion. But seeing this low moral display from his side it shows who he really is. He lost my appreciation.
Edited by alex_2015 on Monday 21st November 07:40
DanielSan said:
Perez has been his own downfall when it comes to getting 2nd in the championship this season, in a car Verstappen has won 15 races in Perez has only managed to be on the podium at all 11 times... Red Bull were out done on strategy yesterday for once by Ferrari which put Perez out of position, but there's been 20 other races where Perez hasn't done a good enough job.
Fair enough. Following this principle, Perez should have let Max last year win the championship on his own. That would have meant for Max that losing the championship bc he "hasn't done a good enough job" and scored less points than LH.Max will experience I guess starting from next year a different degree of help/team work from Perez.
Edited by alex_2015 on Monday 21st November 09:33
No farewell Seb thread, but I found this quite amusing.
"And his former Red Bull team boss Christian Horner revealed: "He'd come and stay at the house. I live in the countryside on a bit of a farm and they were lambing.
"The lambs were being born in a shed and he wanted to get involved, and I just remember the local farmer turning up with Sebastian helping to pull a couple of lambs out. And he didn't have a clue who he was - a four-time world champion, in a sheep shed.
"We've got a couple of miniature donkeys, and he took them for a walk. And he's walking through the village and somebody nearly drove off the road thinking: 'Is that Sebastian Vettel with the donkey from Shrek?'"
"And his former Red Bull team boss Christian Horner revealed: "He'd come and stay at the house. I live in the countryside on a bit of a farm and they were lambing.
"The lambs were being born in a shed and he wanted to get involved, and I just remember the local farmer turning up with Sebastian helping to pull a couple of lambs out. And he didn't have a clue who he was - a four-time world champion, in a sheep shed.
"We've got a couple of miniature donkeys, and he took them for a walk. And he's walking through the village and somebody nearly drove off the road thinking: 'Is that Sebastian Vettel with the donkey from Shrek?'"
C70R said:
paulguitar said:
the-norseman said:
C70R said:
Has it really been "great"?
No real title race to speak of. WCC sewn up weeks ago.
Pretty much like most of the Mercedes seasons then. No real title race to speak of. WCC sewn up weeks ago.
So no, not really.
Some folks here are so tribal that they will literally reinvent history to make what they think is a point.
Wills2 said:
I think it's just ignorance of past seasons, the orange army does have a lot of new "fans" as Sky would say, it was pretty dull all round despite the fake drama they tried to create off the track.
I do get the impression there are a lot of people watching who are very new to F1, judging by their comments. I'm particularly amused by regular references on Twitter to Verstappen as the 'goat'. What a way to immediately out yourself as an ignoramus. alex_2015 said:
Fair enough. Following this principle, Perez should have let Max last year win the championship on his own. That would have meant for Max that losing the championship bc he "hasn't done a good enough job" and scored less points than LH.
Max will experience I guess starting from next year a different degree of help/team work from Perez.
Nope. He’s the number 2 driver. That’s his job. Plenty of others waiting to take a seat in the RB. Max will experience I guess starting from next year a different degree of help/team work from Perez.
Edited by alex_2015 on Monday 21st November 09:33
audi321 said:
Lewis was probably extremely pleased with himself holding Perez up for a lap which probably cost him that 2nd place.
Revenge for the excellent job Perez in holding him up last year.
Maybe a little but LH's priorities yesterday would have been somewhat different to SP's last year and I'm sure Lewis respects that rather than being petty about it. Revenge for the excellent job Perez in holding him up last year.
In hindsight Perez's defending last year probably made no difference because MV would have still ended up behind LH and the safety car on fresh tyres either way. Maybe there would have been more lapped cars in between them though but not going to go into that can of worms again!
hot metal said:
Those 2 twerps Schumacher & Latifi ran into each other again, 
I was hoping for a safety car but they cleared the track.
Schumacher really disappointed with this blunder, as he was having a fantastic race to that point. I was hoping for a safety car but they cleared the track.Really thought that we'd be singing his praises by the end of the race, however it was more business as usual for his overall performance.
mat205125 said:
hot metal said:
Those 2 twerps Schumacher & Latifi ran into each other again, I was hoping for a safety car but they cleared the track.
Schumacher really disappointed with this blunder, as he was having a fantastic race to that point. I was hoping for a safety car but they cleared the track.Really thought that we'd be singing his praises by the end of the race, however it was more business as usual for his overall performance.
mat205125 said:
hot metal said:
Those 2 twerps Schumacher & Latifi ran into each other again, I was hoping for a safety car but they cleared the track.
Schumacher really disappointed with this blunder, as he was having a fantastic race to that point. I was hoping for a safety car but they cleared the track.Really thought that we'd be singing his praises by the end of the race, however it was more business as usual for his overall performance.
Piginapoke said:
Leithen said:
He's young and still learning. He'd be mad to pass up the chance of the Mercedes reserve.
No front row starts in F2 is pretty damning, I dont see any major talent therePiginapoke said:
Leithen said:
He's young and still learning. He'd be mad to pass up the chance of the Mercedes reserve.
No front row starts in F2 is pretty damning, I dont see any major talent thereA little stint with a larger team like Merc, hypercar programme, benchmarking against Russell, Hamilton, Davidson in the sim.
Some of these drivers are getting too much of a head start as such. A little step back can help.
carlo996 said:
Nope. He’s the number 2 driver. That’s his job. Plenty of others waiting to take a seat in the RB.
You do realize that Perez could have opposed less resistance against Lewis last year. This still means complying to the contract.As I said next year we'll see different degrees of help from SP to MV. That's how it goes when you're not too smart, have poor education but you feel entitled and disrespectful towards the others. You learn it the hard way.
Gad-Westy said:
audi321 said:
Lewis was probably extremely pleased with himself holding Perez up for a lap which probably cost him that 2nd place.
Revenge for the excellent job Perez in holding him up last year.
Maybe a little but LH's priorities yesterday would have been somewhat different to SP's last year and I'm sure Lewis respects that rather than being petty about it. Revenge for the excellent job Perez in holding him up last year.
In hindsight Perez's defending last year probably made no difference because MV would have still ended up behind LH and the safety car on fresh tyres either way. Maybe there would have been more lapped cars in between them though but not going to go into that can of worms again!
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