The Official F1 2024 silly season *contains speculation*
Discussion
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
Have you never watched him being interviewed? The delays, sniggers, "erm...", anything to give him time to think of a reply, and even then it's some well-worn trope or soundbite. He may be a great intuitive driver, but he's a dullard. Mercedes try to keep things simple for him, "Party Mode", Hammer time", "Brake Magic" (although he managed to cock that one up), etc.
Eloquent he is not.
I don't agree, I think he's a good communicator, especially in longer-form interviews where he's more relaxed.Eloquent he is not.
Dermot O'Logical said:
You obviously have a massive hard-on for him.
That's very childish. Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
the-norseman said:
Zetec-S said:
Ah yep you are right he is on the Forbes one. Edited by the-norseman on Tuesday 21st March 15:52
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
PhilAsia said:
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
Dermot O'Logical said:
PhilAsia said:
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
PhilAsia said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
PhilAsia said:
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
It's perfectly fine to read criticism on your favourite driver/team and not need to immediately jump to their defence at every opportunity.
Same goes to the likes of PhilAsia, Honda_exige etc.
Lots of knowledgeable and interesting folk in this part of the forum, but the constant need to defend your chosen boy/badge does indeed get tiresome.
They're all grown ups. They'll be ok
Increasing numbers of tabloids seen to be jumping on the Ham/Lec swap bandwagon.
Doesn't mean it's true, of course, but I can see logic for both of them...
For Leclerc, he'll want to experience a professional team that doesn't repeatedly shoot itself in the foot. If he joins in 24, has a year to get up to speed in the team, the Merc might be competitive again by 25.
For Hamilton, I'm sure his ego thinks he'll be able to copy Schumacher and whip the dysfunctional team back into competitive shape and get his GOAT 8th title before retiring.
Doesn't mean it's true, of course, but I can see logic for both of them...
For Leclerc, he'll want to experience a professional team that doesn't repeatedly shoot itself in the foot. If he joins in 24, has a year to get up to speed in the team, the Merc might be competitive again by 25.
For Hamilton, I'm sure his ego thinks he'll be able to copy Schumacher and whip the dysfunctional team back into competitive shape and get his GOAT 8th title before retiring.
ChemicalChaos said:
Increasing numbers of tabloids seen to be jumping on the Ham/Lec swap bandwagon.
Doesn't mean it's true, of course, but I can see logic for both of them...
For Leclerc, he'll want to experience a professional team that doesn't repeatedly shoot itself in the foot. If he joins in 24, has a year to get up to speed in the team, the Merc might be competitive again by 25.
For Hamilton, I'm sure his ego thinks he'll be able to copy Schumacher and whip the dysfunctional team back into competitive shape and get his GOAT 8th title before retiring.
For Hamilton, there literally is no logic to going to Ferrari. It would be a purely emotional decision, as it would for Ferrari to hire him. Lewis has around 3 or 4 years left in the sport, if he chooses. Ferrari's problems are, one senses, much deeper than that timeline.Doesn't mean it's true, of course, but I can see logic for both of them...
For Leclerc, he'll want to experience a professional team that doesn't repeatedly shoot itself in the foot. If he joins in 24, has a year to get up to speed in the team, the Merc might be competitive again by 25.
For Hamilton, I'm sure his ego thinks he'll be able to copy Schumacher and whip the dysfunctional team back into competitive shape and get his GOAT 8th title before retiring.
I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.
For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
Muzzer79 said:
For Hamilton, there literally is no logic to going to Ferrari. It would be a purely emotional decision, as it would for Ferrari to hire him. Lewis has around 3 or 4 years left in the sport, if he chooses. Ferrari's problems are, one senses, much deeper than that timeline.
I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.
For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
Inflated ego is a powerful thing - just look at Mansell and Schumacher's comebacks.I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.
For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
There's possibly also the appeal of being only the second person to win titles with 3 different teams (after Fangio's probably never again to be seen 4 with 4)
I think Hamilton is too calculating and measured to go to Ferrari. He'll have seen Fernando and Seb both go to Ferrari as experienced WDCs and fail to win, due to either the incomprehensible pressure from the Tifosi/press, and modern Ferrari's strategic ineptitude. More likely to retire from F1, perhaps even motorsport, IMO.
Still Mulling said:
I think Hamilton is too calculating and measured to go to Ferrari. He'll have seen Fernando and Seb both go to Ferrari as experienced WDCs and fail to win, due to either the incomprehensible pressure from the Tifosi/press, and modern Ferrari's strategic ineptitude. More likely to retire from F1, perhaps even motorsport, IMO.
More likely to go to the Moon than winning a WDC with Ferrari at this point...ChemicalChaos said:
Muzzer79 said:
For Hamilton, there literally is no logic to going to Ferrari. It would be a purely emotional decision, as it would for Ferrari to hire him. Lewis has around 3 or 4 years left in the sport, if he chooses. Ferrari's problems are, one senses, much deeper than that timeline.
I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.
For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
Inflated ego is a powerful thing - just look at Mansell and Schumacher's comebacks.I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.
For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
There's possibly also the appeal of being only the second person to win titles with 3 different teams (after Fangio's probably never again to be seen 4 with 4)
But I think signing for Ferrari would show that Hamilton is now phoning in the rest of his career, hoping to pick up a win or two, if Ferrari don't completely self-destruct. He's too intelligent to think that they can actually challenge for another title in the short term.
ChemicalChaos said:
Muzzer79 said:
For Hamilton, there literally is no logic to going to Ferrari. It would be a purely emotional decision, as it would for Ferrari to hire him. Lewis has around 3 or 4 years left in the sport, if he chooses. Ferrari's problems are, one senses, much deeper than that timeline.
I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.
For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
Inflated ego is a powerful thing - just look at Mansell and Schumacher's comebacks.I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.
For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
There's possibly also the appeal of being only the second person to win titles with 3 different teams (after Fangio's probably never again to be seen 4 with 4)
Schumacher got a call from Brawn and accepted it.
Mansell was reeled back to help Williams after Senna died, along with DC. Bernie wanted to have a WDC name in F1.
Now Mansell in McLaren, is another thing altogether!
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