The Official F1 2024 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2024 silly season *contains speculation*

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Dermot O'Logical

2,596 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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robscot said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
He struggles with English
Whereas you just struggle.... what a whopper.
Do please enlighten me

Dermot O'Logical

2,596 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
Have you never watched him being interviewed? The delays, sniggers, "erm...", anything to give him time to think of a reply, and even then it's some well-worn trope or soundbite. He may be a great intuitive driver, but he's a dullard. Mercedes try to keep things simple for him, "Party Mode", Hammer time", "Brake Magic" (although he managed to cock that one up), etc.

Eloquent he is not.
I don't agree, I think he's a good communicator, especially in longer-form interviews where he's more relaxed.


Dermot O'Logical said:
You obviously have a massive hard-on for him.
That's very childish.
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.

paulguitar

23,611 posts

114 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.

It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.






Deesee

8,465 posts

84 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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vaud said:
Deesee said:
Hamilton’s new pad in Monaco is nearing completion he might well need a large signing on bonus etc.
He's worth about £300m, I doubt he needs a signing on bonus.
Worth is not the same as cash.. smile

Deesee

8,465 posts

84 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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the-norseman said:
Zetec-S said:
Took me 2 minutes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_the_w...

8th in 2021, 10th in 2017.
Ah yep you are right he is on the Forbes one.

Edited by the-norseman on Tuesday 21st March 15:52
Those image rights are clearly being paid somewhere else hehe

PhilAsia

3,853 posts

76 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.

It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
Imagine how tiresome it would be if Dermot O'Logical posted more. Not a chance of that though. It took 30 minutes for him/her to Google whether "enlighten" was appropriate in his/her reply to robscot.

Dermot O'Logical

2,596 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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PhilAsia said:
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.

It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
Imagine how tiresome it would be if Dermot O'Logical posted more. Not a chance of that though. It took 30 minutes for him/her to Google whether "enlighten" was appropriate in his/her reply to robscot.
It didn't. Have I upset you as well? There, there.

PhilAsia

3,853 posts

76 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Dermot O'Logical said:
PhilAsia said:
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.

It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
Imagine how tiresome it would be if Dermot O'Logical posted more. Not a chance of that though. It took 30 minutes for him/her to Google whether "enlighten" was appropriate in his/her reply to robscot.
It didn't. Have I upset you as well? There, there.
Staggeringly quick response. Ah, only two syllables, that'll be it...

Dermot O'Logical

2,596 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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PhilAsia said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
PhilAsia said:
paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.

It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
Imagine how tiresome it would be if Dermot O'Logical posted more. Not a chance of that though. It took 30 minutes for him/her to Google whether "enlighten" was appropriate in his/her reply to robscot.
It didn't. Have I upset you as well? There, there.
Staggeringly quick response. Ah, only two syllables, that'll be it...
Some of us can multitask.

Sycamore

1,806 posts

119 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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paulguitar said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'll withdraw that remark, but you do seem remarkably intolerant of any criticism, and leap to Hamilton's defence at every opportunity, to the point of becoming tiresome.
I think he's the best driver I have seen since I started watching F1 in the 70s, and he seems like a decent person to me as well. I am perplexed (and honestly, kind of disappointed) by the unrelenting flak he gets, which is what leads me to comment here.

It's a shame you find me 'tiresome'. I enjoy posting here and that's not very pleasant to know.
While I don't agree on the need for Dermot to analyse every aspect of Hamilton in order to find something to put him down on, I do somewhat see where he comes from in terms of the tiresome comment.

It's perfectly fine to read criticism on your favourite driver/team and not need to immediately jump to their defence at every opportunity.
Same goes to the likes of PhilAsia, Honda_exige etc.

Lots of knowledgeable and interesting folk in this part of the forum, but the constant need to defend your chosen boy/badge does indeed get tiresome.

They're all grown ups. They'll be ok

Dermot O'Logical

2,596 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Paul and I have discussed our differences by email.

It's all good.

Formula 1 will continue, drivers will come and go. The world will continue to turn.

Killer2005

19,660 posts

229 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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ChemicalChaos

10,404 posts

161 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Increasing numbers of tabloids seen to be jumping on the Ham/Lec swap bandwagon.
Doesn't mean it's true, of course, but I can see logic for both of them...
For Leclerc, he'll want to experience a professional team that doesn't repeatedly shoot itself in the foot. If he joins in 24, has a year to get up to speed in the team, the Merc might be competitive again by 25.
For Hamilton, I'm sure his ego thinks he'll be able to copy Schumacher and whip the dysfunctional team back into competitive shape and get his GOAT 8th title before retiring.


Muzzer79

10,073 posts

188 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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ChemicalChaos said:
Increasing numbers of tabloids seen to be jumping on the Ham/Lec swap bandwagon.
Doesn't mean it's true, of course, but I can see logic for both of them...
For Leclerc, he'll want to experience a professional team that doesn't repeatedly shoot itself in the foot. If he joins in 24, has a year to get up to speed in the team, the Merc might be competitive again by 25.
For Hamilton, I'm sure his ego thinks he'll be able to copy Schumacher and whip the dysfunctional team back into competitive shape and get his GOAT 8th title before retiring.
For Hamilton, there literally is no logic to going to Ferrari. It would be a purely emotional decision, as it would for Ferrari to hire him. Lewis has around 3 or 4 years left in the sport, if he chooses. Ferrari's problems are, one senses, much deeper than that timeline.

I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.

For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.

ChemicalChaos

10,404 posts

161 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
For Hamilton, there literally is no logic to going to Ferrari. It would be a purely emotional decision, as it would for Ferrari to hire him. Lewis has around 3 or 4 years left in the sport, if he chooses. Ferrari's problems are, one senses, much deeper than that timeline.

I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.

For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
Inflated ego is a powerful thing - just look at Mansell and Schumacher's comebacks.
There's possibly also the appeal of being only the second person to win titles with 3 different teams (after Fangio's probably never again to be seen 4 with 4)

Still Mulling

12,505 posts

178 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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I think Hamilton is too calculating and measured to go to Ferrari. He'll have seen Fernando and Seb both go to Ferrari as experienced WDCs and fail to win, due to either the incomprehensible pressure from the Tifosi/press, and modern Ferrari's strategic ineptitude. More likely to retire from F1, perhaps even motorsport, IMO.

Siao

878 posts

41 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Still Mulling said:
I think Hamilton is too calculating and measured to go to Ferrari. He'll have seen Fernando and Seb both go to Ferrari as experienced WDCs and fail to win, due to either the incomprehensible pressure from the Tifosi/press, and modern Ferrari's strategic ineptitude. More likely to retire from F1, perhaps even motorsport, IMO.
More likely to go to the Moon than winning a WDC with Ferrari at this point...

Muzzer79

10,073 posts

188 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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ChemicalChaos said:
Muzzer79 said:
For Hamilton, there literally is no logic to going to Ferrari. It would be a purely emotional decision, as it would for Ferrari to hire him. Lewis has around 3 or 4 years left in the sport, if he chooses. Ferrari's problems are, one senses, much deeper than that timeline.

I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.

For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
Inflated ego is a powerful thing - just look at Mansell and Schumacher's comebacks.
There's possibly also the appeal of being only the second person to win titles with 3 different teams (after Fangio's probably never again to be seen 4 with 4)
It's true regarding Mansell and particularly Schumacher - I never thought Michael would be foolish enough to come back like he did.

But I think signing for Ferrari would show that Hamilton is now phoning in the rest of his career, hoping to pick up a win or two, if Ferrari don't completely self-destruct. He's too intelligent to think that they can actually challenge for another title in the short term.

thegreenhell

15,449 posts

220 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Siao said:
More likely to go to the Moon than winning a WDC with Ferrari at this point...
More likely to go to the Moon than winning a WDC with Mercedes at this point...

Siao

878 posts

41 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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ChemicalChaos said:
Muzzer79 said:
For Hamilton, there literally is no logic to going to Ferrari. It would be a purely emotional decision, as it would for Ferrari to hire him. Lewis has around 3 or 4 years left in the sport, if he chooses. Ferrari's problems are, one senses, much deeper than that timeline.

I'd be stunned if he went there. Less stunned that Ferrari chose to sign him, as they seem to be going towards full implosion so such mental decisions may be taken, but Hamilton surely has enough about him to realise he has nothing to prove and his eggs are better off in the current basket.

For my money, all this talk of a swap or Hamilton leaving is just clickbait for the media to talk about something.
Inflated ego is a powerful thing - just look at Mansell and Schumacher's comebacks.
There's possibly also the appeal of being only the second person to win titles with 3 different teams (after Fangio's probably never again to be seen 4 with 4)
Inflated ego? Why are you calling it that?

Schumacher got a call from Brawn and accepted it.

Mansell was reeled back to help Williams after Senna died, along with DC. Bernie wanted to have a WDC name in F1.

Now Mansell in McLaren, is another thing altogether!