Official 2023 Saudi Arabia Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2023 Saudi Arabia Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Poll: Official 2023 Saudi Arabia Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Total Members Polled: 168

Verstappen: 60%
Perez: 11%
Leclerc: 3%
Sainz: 1%
Hamilton: 7%
Russell: 1%
Alonso: 15%
Stroll: 3%
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Clockwork Cupcake

74,623 posts

273 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
This is like the Schumacher dominance years, when millions of people tuned out. Liberty will quiclkly get the message.
Yes, the Schumacher years were pretty awful. yes

It does amuse me how many people who say that Hamilton only won his 7 WDCs due to having the best car (and neglecting to acknowledge he's always had to fight a team mate) yet don't apply the same rules to Schumacher (whose team mate existed only to help him)

Clockwork Cupcake

74,623 posts

273 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Seems to me that the drivers need NASCAR / Indycar style spotters on this track.

FourWheelDrift

88,563 posts

285 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Two options.

1) Reduce the minimum lap time limit so that no one is going slow.
2) Don't race on this fast blind cornered Micky Mouse circuit.

ZX10R NIN

27,648 posts

126 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Yes, the Schumacher years were pretty awful. yes

It does amuse me how many people who say that Hamilton only won his 7 WDCs due to having the best car (and neglecting to acknowledge he's always had to fight a team mate) yet don't apply the same rules to Schumacher (whose team mate existed only to help him)
He Nico only turned up for one season & Bottas was clearly a number 2.

snotrag

14,478 posts

212 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Lando and Oscar looking much more promising do far this week in the Mclaren. They need a good race.

Sandpit Steve

10,120 posts

75 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Crofty sounds like a right twunt, standing between Bernie and Nico. Can we have those two analysts every weekend please?

Niponeoff

2,131 posts

28 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Sandpit Steve said:
This is like the Schumacher dominance years, when millions of people tuned out. Liberty will quiclkly get the message.
Yes, the Schumacher years were pretty awful. yes

It does amuse me how many people who say that Hamilton only won his 7 WDCs due to having the best car (and neglecting to acknowledge he's always had to fight a team mate) yet don't apply the same rules to Schumacher (whose team mate existed only to help him)
He only fought for 2 years.

They're is they chance RB will replace Perez next year for a worthy contender.

Sandpit Steve

10,120 posts

75 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Ferrari are nowhere here, 10th and 11th. Still sandbagging, or in trouble this weekend?

paulguitar

23,582 posts

114 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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ZX10R NIN said:
It's funny how fast people forget Mercedes had the same advantage as RB do now for 7 years.

I don't remember quite as much wailing as I see now.
Not all of those years, as is often pointed out.




Clockwork Cupcake

74,623 posts

273 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Niponeoff said:
They're is they chance RB will replace Perez next year for a worthy contender.
Red Bull don't have much of a history on that.

"Multi-21, Seb. Multi-21"

and

"Not bad for a #2 driver"

wink


Clockwork Cupcake

74,623 posts

273 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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ZX10R NIN said:
He Nico only turned up for one season & Bottas was clearly a number 2.
They still didn't provide Hamilton with the support Schumacher enjoyed though.

And even if they had, either both Hamilton and Schumacher are undeserving of their 7 WDCs, or both are deserving. That was my point.

(Also Hamilton isn't a cheat and also never tried to run another driver into a wall)



ZX10R NIN

27,648 posts

126 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
The difference is the dominant team having two drivers that are allowed to fight. Lewis vs Nico was great to watch, as was Prost and Senna in 1998.

This is like the Schumacher dominance years, when millions of people tuned out. Liberty will quiclkly get the message.

That said, the last race was one of the closest races ever, across the whole field, that didn’t involve a safety car.
Bottas may have been allowed to race but he very rarely did (or was good enough to) I have to agree that the racing between the rest was great & I have to give the authorities credit in that the racing (albeit not at the front but that's nothing new) is closer overall.

entropy

5,450 posts

204 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
Two options.

1) Reduce the minimum lap time limit so that no one is going slow.
2) Don't race on this fast blind cornered Micky Mouse circuit.
Circuit Gilles Villeneuve - before it became a back straight it had blind fast sweeping curves which the drivers wanted rid of post-Senna/94.

Only in the Middle East...

Jasandjules

69,948 posts

230 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Thank goodness the rules were changed to stop one team dominating......

HardtopManual

2,438 posts

167 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Smollet said:
Croft:” I feel 60% cleverer just sitting here next to Bernie for the past two days”. It’s low base point to start from though
What's 160% of nothing?

Derek Smith

45,739 posts

249 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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It's close after MV.

The best of the rest battle might well be resolved by tyre wear, although much more likely to be the luck of the draw when the pace car is called out. Let's hope the PC doesn't decide the podium.

When I first read that Bernie was on the Sky team, I was shocked. But relief aside, she's great. Some excellent insight.

And no fashion show.


ChocolateFrog

25,536 posts

174 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Well FP3 while entirely predictable is even more depressing seeing the gulf in the cold light of day.

A second is an eternity. The fact they've increased the gap makes a mockery of any sanctions.

Deesee

8,464 posts

84 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Derek Smith said:
It's close after MV.
Gap P1 to P3 is the same as P3 to P18..

carlo996

5,765 posts

22 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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ZX10R NIN said:
It's funny how fast people forget Mercedes had the same advantage as RB do now for 7 years.

I don't remember quite as much wailing as I see now.
yes

As usual the LH fanclub on here is as objective as ever rofl

Mercedes dominate the Championship, 'bloody well driven Lewis, he's a bally hero'
Red Bull dominate the Championship 'grr we was robbed, grr Horner, grrr Spice Girls.'

rallycross

12,824 posts

238 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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FourWheelDrift said:
Two options.

1) Reduce the minimum lap time limit so that no one is going slow.
2) Don't race on this fast blind cornered Micky Mouse circuit.
Totally agree, I said the same last year and don’t see the improvements making much difference at all it has the potential risk of a massive unavoidable crash just not up to F1 circuit standards for running a safe race weekend.