Official 2023 Australian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2023 Australian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Poll: Official 2023 Australian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Total Members Polled: 170

Verstappen: 63%
Perez: 4%
Leclerc: 2%
Sainz: 1%
Hamilton: 11%
Russell: 4%
Alonso: 16%
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Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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500TORQUES said:
Sandpit Steve said:
In the ‘70s cars, the driver’s ankles were the front crash structure! It’s only relatively recently (after Schumacher’s crash at Silverstone?) that the pedal box has been required to be behind the front axle, and the car pass a head-on crash test.
F1 was making strides for driver safety well before most people think. With the cooling radiators up front, the radiator structure and it's mounts provide a not insignificant crushable structure, it was the rest of the tubular chassis that tended to fold up around the driver and trap them in the car. The introduction of monocoque construction improved that issue significantly. You then had the water radiators move to the rear sides of the chassis, on some cars oil coolers took there place up front, but that didn't last long and you ended up with a simple frame up front just to carry the bodywork panel, just strong enough to handle the downforce those panels generated. This was where the foot area became more vulnerable and rule makers started to introduce rules to strengthen the protection at that point.

Introduced for 1976
"A substantial structure will extend in front of the pedals."

That didn't mean much and was pretty well ignored, so they mandated a load figure for the following year.

Introduced for 1977
"Structure of protection for the pedals : There wiil be in front of the pedals a structure capable to withstand a 25 g deceleration with out causing the pedals to move backwards by more than 150 mm (car with full tanks and driver aboard).

They achieved this by making a secondary front bulkhead with internal gusset structures between the two bulkheads, which would provide a crush structure and extra strength from the box section geometry.

Introduced for 1980
"All cars must have a substantial structure to protect the driver's feet which is capable of withstanding a compression load of 25w applied to the front of
the car without allowing the pedals to move rearwards more than 15 cm when the car is racing weight (w).

Each year they increased the frontal crash protection, 1981 brought in much higher safety standards with honeycomb crash structures ahead of the drivers feet. One of the better versions of this was on the Tyrrell 011, where Maurice Phillippe added a lot of honeycomb in a nose box and all the way up to the steering bulkhead. That car is built like a tank for a pre carbon car, with honeycomb side panels all the way front to rear and multiple billet aluminium bulkheads. For the last two made they fitted a carbon fibre floor instead of aluminium skins.

1985 was when they started to crash test the frontal impact structures.

1988 was when the pedals couldn't be in front of the front axle line, 11 years before Schumacher broke his leg.
Thanks for that one!

P1 about to start, who’s got up early and who’s not yet been to bed?

Petrus1983

8,719 posts

162 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
Thanks for that one!

P1 about to start, who’s got up early and who’s not yet been to bed?
I’m watching - went to bed at 10pm - showing my age as I used to watch the Oz stuff after coming in from
a night out!

Catweazle

1,159 posts

142 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
P1 about to start, who’s got up early and who’s not yet been to bed?
Thanks for the reminder.

Catweazle

1,159 posts

142 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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New front wing on the Red Bull.

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Petrus1983 said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Thanks for that one!

P1 about to start, who’s got up early and who’s not yet been to bed?
I’m watching - went to bed at 10pm - showing my age as I used to watch the Oz stuff after coming in from
a night out!
biggrin

I’m in a better time zone than most - it’s now 05:30 in the sandpit, with the race at 9am. 02:30 is marginal as to whether you just stay up or get an early night!

Petrus1983

8,719 posts

162 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
biggrin

I’m in a better time zone than most - it’s now 05:30 in the sandpit, with the race at 9am. 02:30 is marginal as to whether you just stay up or get an early night!
It’s not marginal anymore - sadly. Could imagine me now dribbling my way through the parade lap just to wake up on the sofa with the podium ceremony in front of me laugh

RB 1st and 2nd and they didn’t even seem to try hard.

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Petrus1983 said:
It’s not marginal anymore - sadly. Could imagine me now dribbling my way through the parade lap just to wake up on the sofa with the podium ceremony in front of me laugh

RB 1st and 2nd and they didn’t even seem to try hard.
Lewis trying a little too hard there, a massive tank-slapper. Still 3rd though, but it’s worrying that the two Red Bulls are already at the top of the time sheets.

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Lots of traffic problems in this session, Q1 might be fun here.

Red flag.

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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That’s a weird one, red flag apparently for a GPS driver tracking system failure, which means the teams can’t tell the drivers about traffic. Switch it off and on again.

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Green flag now, after they rebooted the race control computer.

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Ooh, MV going for a spin and ruining that set of tyres. Now another red flag, a dead car for Sargeant. That will be that, end of session.

Petrus1983

8,719 posts

162 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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At this rate Max could give everyone a head start and still not break a sweat. Anyway - we’ll see.

motomk

2,150 posts

244 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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First 2 Way Grand Prix. Max is going to run the track in reverse.

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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motomk said:
First 2 Way Grand Prix. Max is going to run the track in reverse.
Very good! You’re there?

motomk

2,150 posts

244 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
Very good! You’re there?
Yes, happened about 15 metres in front of us. Can hear the F3 cars on rhe same bit of kerbing/track.

Edited by motomk on Friday 31st March 04:23

Petrus1983

8,719 posts

162 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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motomk said:
Yes, happened about 15 metres in front of us. Can hear the F3 cars on rhe same bit of kerbing.
That’s v cool. But why did you have to mention F3 - now I’m def not getting anymore sleep - qualifying is on Sky!

motomk

2,150 posts

244 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Petrus1983 said:
That’s v cool. But why did you have to mention F3 - now I’m def not getting anymore sleep - qualifying is on Sky!
smile F3 is louder than F1

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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motomk said:
Petrus1983 said:
That’s v cool. But why did you have to mention F3 - now I’m def not getting anymore sleep - qualifying is on Sky!
smile F3 is louder than F1
Cool that you’re there @motomk

Yes they still have n/a engines. I think the V8 Supercars might be the loudest thing on the track this weekend though!

RemarkLima

2,375 posts

212 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Deesee said:
Andrew Benson BBC Sport said:
Masi, who is in Melbourne in his new role as a senior official of the Australian Supercars series, which is a support race at the grand prix, was seen embracing Red Bull sporting director Jonathan Wheatley in the F1 paddock.
.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/65121271

WTF..
I've read the bold as a Mills and Boon, passionate, romantic embrace biglaugh

motomk

2,150 posts

244 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
Cool that you’re there @motomk

Yes they still have n/a engines. I think the V8 Supercars might be the loudest thing on the track this weekend though!


errr, V8s just went by, no, the F3s were louder.

Edited by motomk on Friday 31st March 05:42


Edited by motomk on Friday 31st March 05:48