Massa 2008 World Champion?

Massa 2008 World Champion?

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MrBig

2,725 posts

130 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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And we're back to another AD2021 thread rolleyes

DrDeAtH

3,588 posts

233 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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MrBig said:
And we're back to another AD2021 thread rolleyes
Not really. People are just discussing the legal implications of the situation I outlined previously. It's a valid precedent, and one which the FIA do not want to have pursued.

angrymoby

2,615 posts

179 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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DrDeAtH said:
Not really. People are just discussing the legal implications of the situation I outlined previously. It's a valid precedent, and one which the FIA do not want to have pursued.
of all the races that should have been pursued & annulled it should be that one- although no one gains ... hence Mercedes dropping it (& i'd wager they wouldn't have dropped it had Hamilton been ahead going into AD) indeed you'd hope the FIA have come up with a fairer solution should a similar event ever occur in the future (either a 'cut off' & the race is classed as finished at the point of the error or you 'replay' the event- & neither of these should imo be applied retrospectively)

I'd probably also add Spa '21 & Indy '05 to the list of races that should have been thoroughly investigated & annulled (there are probably others, but those 2 stand out)

Singapore '08 was something different imo



Edited by angrymoby on Wednesday 19th April 11:03

thegreenhell

15,497 posts

220 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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The FIA have no interest in investigating and altering results of their own fk ups, and why should they? Much easier to just brush them under the carpet and hope people eventually forget.

If they start altering the results of things that happened years ago it will open a Pandora's box and could get really messy.

Smollet

10,663 posts

191 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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thegreenhell said:
The FIA have no interest in investigating and altering results of their own fk ups, and why should they? Much easier to just brush them under the carpet and hope people eventually forget.

If they start altering the results of things that happened years ago it will open a Pandora's box and could get really messy.
Yup. Imagine Senna being banned for deliberately ramming Prost at 150mph to win the title without a care of what happened to both parties and maybe others near by.

Purosangue

985 posts

14 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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where does it end Damon Hill 1994 champion ............because Schuey cheated ..ditto Senna Prost ?


Hell im going to start a petition against the UCI to get Lance Armstrong reinstated for his 7 Tour de France victories on the basis that every cyclist in those days cheated













Edited by Purosangue on Friday 18th August 12:29

Stevemtb

85 posts

44 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Bit earlier for Damon...1994!...time flies.

MustangGT

11,660 posts

281 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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I read it as a claim for 'loss of earnings'. To prove loss of earnings he would have to prove he should have been WDC in 2008. Not a chance of doing that. The only person going to win here is Massa's lawyer, plenty of fees, no result.

Massa should take some different legal advice, step back and avoid looking like a fool.

Niponeoff

2,144 posts

28 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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I read he's just sent his letter in, so he's going for it. Will just fall on its arse and rightly so, let sleeping dogs like and Lewis can retain his 6+1* championships.

paulguitar

23,657 posts

114 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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It's sad to see Massa doing this, suspect he's had some bad advice here.





DaveTheRave87

2,095 posts

90 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Fairest thing to do is to dust off the 2008 cars, get the drivers out of retirement and redo the 2008 season from Singapore onwards.

Could do it in the off weeks this season.

May contain sarcasm.

paulguitar

23,657 posts

114 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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DaveTheRave87 said:
Fairest thing to do is to dust off the 2008 cars, get the drivers out of retirement and redo the 2008 season from Singapore onwards.

Could do it in the off weeks this season.

May contain sarcasm.
That would be absolutely brilliant.




nickfrog

21,278 posts

218 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Yes I would pay good money to see that!!

SpudLink

5,908 posts

193 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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paulguitar said:
DaveTheRave87 said:
Fairest thing to do is to dust off the 2008 cars, get the drivers out of retirement and redo the 2008 season from Singapore onwards.

Could do it in the off weeks this season.

May contain sarcasm.
That would be absolutely brilliant.
Would Piquet be allowed to compete? Maybe banned from Singapore onwards?

Can Flavio come back to run the team?

paulguitar

23,657 posts

114 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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SpudLink said:
paulguitar said:
DaveTheRave87 said:
Fairest thing to do is to dust off the 2008 cars, get the drivers out of retirement and redo the 2008 season from Singapore onwards.

Could do it in the off weeks this season.

May contain sarcasm.
That would be absolutely brilliant.
Would Piquet be allowed to compete? Maybe banned from Singapore onwards?

Can Flavio come back to run the team?
Absolute free for all, I reckon, complete with Nelsinho and Flav!





DaveTheRave87

2,095 posts

90 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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SpudLink said:
Would Piquet be allowed to compete? Maybe banned from Singapore onwards?

Can Flavio come back to run the team?
Of course, anything that happened after the start at Singapore didn't happen.

So he'd only be banned if he did it again.

I'd pay good money to see Nico Rosberg's face when he's told he has to leave his ice cream shop in Majorca and drive the 2008 Williams again.

thegreenhell

15,497 posts

220 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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Horner is gonna cry when he sees the two old gits driving his cars.

Sandpit Steve

10,156 posts

75 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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DaveTheRave87 said:
Fairest thing to do is to dust off the 2008 cars, get the drivers out of retirement and redo the 2008 season from Singapore onwards.

Could do it in the off weeks this season.

May contain sarcasm.
Brazil could be fun, if they can engineer just the right amount of rain six laps from the end again.
(Although they’d all know with hindsight, that staying out was the right decision).

WilsonWilson

524 posts

150 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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The Race video on does a good job of explaining why it probably won't go anywhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJXYRZCqwzs&ab...

I'd actually forgotten that Felipe (baby)'s last win was Brazil 2008. He really wasn't the same after Hungary 09.

williamp

19,276 posts

274 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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We should also re-open the Porto 1958 stewards decision. Moss was robbed...

..and Japan 1976. That race should have been cancelled.

..and of course, those Indy 500 cars werent eligable for F1 races, despite the results counting. Its a fix, I yell 'yer...