F1 2024 car launch dates

[DanielSan]

Forester1965 said:

Red Bull seem to be trolling Mercedes.

RB20



W14

If this Red Bull car comes out looking like last year's Mercedes from some angles and they still smash the field Newey is in full piss take mode

[MiniMan64]

I believe he’s inferring that they’ve used Mercedes own “failed” design for they’re current challenger.

[Yazza54]

Meh, there will be elements of every car that makes some sense in isolation, it's all about the full package. Maybe they did see something they like and adopt it, wouldn't be that crazy.

[TikTak]

DanielSan said:

Forester1965 said:

Red Bull seem to be trolling Mercedes.

RB20



W14

If this Red Bull car comes out looking like last year's Mercedes from some angles and they still smash the field Newey is in full piss take mode

Mid-season zeropod update would be the one taking the full biscuit.

[honda_exige]

Yazza54 said:

How's this trolling?

They've taken Merc's massive shoulder Cannons as well as the kind of undercut sidpod inlet just as they've dropped both.

[Still Mulling]

As others have mentioned, I'll start to believe the shape of the cars come testing, then have further faith come Race 1 Q1.

[DanielSan]

TikTak said:

DanielSan said:

Forester1965 said:

Red Bull seem to be trolling Mercedes.

RB20



W14

If this Red Bull car comes out looking like last year's Mercedes from some angles and they still smash the field Newey is in full piss take mode

Mid-season zeropod update would be the one taking the full biscuit.

Even if they only ran it for a practice session I'd respect tbat level of sthousery from any team

[Sandpit Steve]

Still Mulling said:

As others have mentioned, I'll start to believe the shape of the cars come testing, then have further faith come Race 1 Q1.

Yep, we will always know little about the shape of the cars, until they turn up for Q1 in Bahrain under Parc Fermé conditions.

[honda_exige]

Bahahahahaha

[WPA]

honda_exige said:

Bahahahahaha

Cannot see it, no chance that Newey has gone down that blind alley.

[WPA]

[honda_exige]

WPA said:

honda_exige said:

Bahahahahaha

Cannot see it, no chance that Newey has gone down that blind alley.

I think there's probably another intake where the overhang is in addition to the vertical slot

[Forester1965]

I bet the sidepods on the Red Bull disappear before the start of the season, as per Mercedes 2022.

[AceRockatansky]

Is that a painted ham baguette above the intake on the red bull?

[ajprice]

Kyle Engineers on the Mercedes and Red Bull

[AceRockatansky]

ajprice said:

Kyle Engineers on the Mercedes and Red Bull

The problem I've got with these videos is it does nothing to tell you which cars are better or worse, which is what we really want to know. So what he's telling us is technical but ultimately useless.

Vortice here, device there. Great, so what will that do in the grand scheme of things, what is it trying to achieve in terms of grip or laptime. No idea.

[honda_exige]

AceRockatansky said:

The problem I've got with these videos is it does nothing to tell you which cars are better or worse, which is what we really want to know. So what he's telling us is technical but ultimately useless.

Vortice here, device there. Great, so what will that do in the grand scheme of things, what is it trying to achieve in terms of grip or laptime. No idea.

Well yeah that's obvious though, depends on how much you like the technical details, it's a bit of a fun dive into why certain features are or aren't there.

It's not entirely useless as you can refer back to it once the 1st race is underway.

They're all trying to achieve the same thing, the lowest average laptime over the course of a race, whether that's through better downforce, less drag, being kinder on the tyres etc.

[kambites]

AceRockatansky said:

The problem I've got with these videos is it does nothing to tell you which cars are better or worse, which is what we really want to know. So what he's telling us is technical but ultimately useless.

I guess that rather depends on whether your interest lies in the technical aspects for their own sake or simply on the overall results of them. For plenty of us it's the former; I'm at least as interested in how the teams approach trying to make the cars go fast than whether they succeed.

It's interesting that, according to Kyle (who I'm sure knows far more than any of us!) the Redbull and Mercedes approaches seem to be very similar. It would take a brave man to bet against Redbull having done it better, but it probably shows Mercedes have a better understanding of this concept than I would have expected having spent two seasons going down a blind alley.

Edited by kambites on Friday 16th February 08:04

[Still Mulling]

I don’t like the straight-line shoulders of the RB. It looks ugly, top-heavy, and basic.

[WPA]

I am wondering if maybe RB had to go for a new direction as they had reached the top of the performance window with the old car, maybe they could not make the old design any faster.