Official 2024 Chinese Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***
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Hondashark said:
I think he was interviewed and said he didn't contact them. But who knows.
Maybe race control sorted it out among themselves then, it appeared on the screens as a correction before the session closed, and there’s no notice of any team appeal or stewards getting involved. I did think Mercedes might have something to say, but their team manager will have known the correct application of the rules as well, and while it looked like the wrong decision watching live, a bit of digging does say it was correctly corrected!
Sorry but if you think Lando deserved to lose that lap you haven’t fully understood the situation. He didn’t exceed track limits during the lap, he exceeded track limits before he started the lap. That rule exists to prevent competitors enhancing their speed across the line when opening a lap by excessively opening up or sling-shotting the final corner leading into the lap. If you’re in the gravel at the start of the start/finish straight you aren’t going faster than you would’ve been if you’d kept it on. McLaren would’ve been able to demonstrate that no advantage was gained.
Hustle_ said:
Sorry but if you think Lando deserved to lose that lap you haven’t fully understood the situation. He didn’t exceed track limits during the lap, he exceeded track limits before he started the lap. That rule exists to prevent competitors enhancing their speed across the line when opening a lap by excessively opening up or sling-shotting the final corner leading into the lap. If you’re in the gravel at the start of the start/finish straight you aren’t going faster than you would’ve been if you’d kept it on. McLaren would’ve been able to demonstrate that no advantage was gained.
It’s nothing to do with any advantage gained, plenty of drivers lost times but didn’t gain an advantage. It’s only to do with the race director’s prior guidance to competitors, as outlined in the Event Notes document before the start of the meeting. See post above.
Behind all this is the utterly inconsistent policing of track limits. Modern track design is a huge problem, but more consistency and crucially transparency would help.
In the end they came to the correct decision and McLaren's higher downforce setup clearly paid dividends. Tomorrow will probably be a very different story, which might well lead to setup changes for the proper race.
In the end they came to the correct decision and McLaren's higher downforce setup clearly paid dividends. Tomorrow will probably be a very different story, which might well lead to setup changes for the proper race.
Sandpit Steve said:
Hustle_ said:
Sorry but if you think Lando deserved to lose that lap you haven’t fully understood the situation. He didn’t exceed track limits during the lap, he exceeded track limits before he started the lap. That rule exists to prevent competitors enhancing their speed across the line when opening a lap by excessively opening up or sling-shotting the final corner leading into the lap. If you’re in the gravel at the start of the start/finish straight you aren’t going faster than you would’ve been if you’d kept it on. McLaren would’ve been able to demonstrate that no advantage was gained.
It’s nothing to do with any advantage gained, plenty of drivers lost times but didn’t gain an advantage. It’s only to do with the race director’s prior guidance to competitors, as outlined in the Event Notes document before the start of the meeting. See post above.
Did lando not run wide before starting the pole lap?
Leithen said:
Behind all this is the utterly inconsistent policing of track limits. Modern track design is a huge problem, but more consistency and crucially transparency would help.
In the end they came to the correct decision and McLaren's higher downforce setup clearly paid dividends. Tomorrow will probably be a very different story, which might well lead to setup changes for the proper race.
If they just put back gravel around every corner, track limits would become self-policing In the end they came to the correct decision and McLaren's higher downforce setup clearly paid dividends. Tomorrow will probably be a very different story, which might well lead to setup changes for the proper race.
LM240 said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Hustle_ said:
Sorry but if you think Lando deserved to lose that lap you haven’t fully understood the situation. He didn’t exceed track limits during the lap, he exceeded track limits before he started the lap. That rule exists to prevent competitors enhancing their speed across the line when opening a lap by excessively opening up or sling-shotting the final corner leading into the lap. If you’re in the gravel at the start of the start/finish straight you aren’t going faster than you would’ve been if you’d kept it on. McLaren would’ve been able to demonstrate that no advantage was gained.
It’s nothing to do with any advantage gained, plenty of drivers lost times but didn’t gain an advantage. It’s only to do with the race director’s prior guidance to competitors, as outlined in the Event Notes document before the start of the meeting. See post above.
Did lando not run wide before starting the pole lap?
Would’ve been a pretty good prediction for the sprint qualifying!
Hustle_ said:
I think we could have an interesting qualifying here. Overcast and maybe a bit chilly. It must be an interesting circuit to get the tyres into the window and I can imagine Red Bull finding it a little tricky on a single lap. With the long straights and DRS zones it is tough to bet against Red Bull but I don't think they're getting a front row lock-out and for some reason I'm seeing Max starting from the second row, maybe a Leclerc pole? Wishful thinking I guess. Still, for the same reasons of tyre wear and DRS zones it is impossible to see past a Verstappen win in the grand prix, barring reliability.
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