Hypercar news coming?
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Graham Goodwin from DSC was getting quite excited in 22 November week's Marshall pruett podcast... Sounded like some big positive news coming about manufacturer entries for the lmp1 / hypercar regs. Didn't hear anything skimming through the 3 hours podcast this week ... Anyone seen anything elsewhere? No doubt it will start coming out soon enough but sounds exciting!
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/12/05/2020-lmp-...
When it comes to the engine regs I can't help wondering if the FIA consulted with anyone or just asked Mercedes to write them around their F1 engine/ONE supercar.
Still not sure how you square these two regs though:
1. “The current spirit of great marques battling it out on the track will still be there but they will be working to much smaller budgets and facing opponents from the private sphere stealing the limelight"
2. “Body shape will not be dictated by aerodynamics (which will be strictly regulated) but by the marque’s distinctive design features. Manufacturers may nonetheless extrapolate a street-legal version of their racing car if they wish."
So if you're a privateer team like Rebellion or SMP you can race on a theoretical even footing with the manufacture teams...but the body shape of your car must have the distinctive design features of road cars they don't make. They also need to make 100 road-going versions of their race cars...
This has the current LMP2 cluster-f
k written all over it. The 2020 Prologue's only 17 months away so I'm guessing we'll only actually see 1 or 2 manufacturers building cars that year - and struggling to supply both their own needs and the privateer teams, so the privateers may decide to sit out the season (most have LMP2s or can adapt their current LMP1s to race in LMP2). One car will be clearly better and that's the one all the privateers will buy for the 21/22 season - at which point we have a class fill of 'Orecas', with just the 2 cars each from the other manufacturers.
When it comes to the engine regs I can't help wondering if the FIA consulted with anyone or just asked Mercedes to write them around their F1 engine/ONE supercar.
Still not sure how you square these two regs though:
1. “The current spirit of great marques battling it out on the track will still be there but they will be working to much smaller budgets and facing opponents from the private sphere stealing the limelight"
2. “Body shape will not be dictated by aerodynamics (which will be strictly regulated) but by the marque’s distinctive design features. Manufacturers may nonetheless extrapolate a street-legal version of their racing car if they wish."
So if you're a privateer team like Rebellion or SMP you can race on a theoretical even footing with the manufacture teams...but the body shape of your car must have the distinctive design features of road cars they don't make. They also need to make 100 road-going versions of their race cars...
This has the current LMP2 cluster-f
k written all over it. The 2020 Prologue's only 17 months away so I'm guessing we'll only actually see 1 or 2 manufacturers building cars that year - and struggling to supply both their own needs and the privateer teams, so the privateers may decide to sit out the season (most have LMP2s or can adapt their current LMP1s to race in LMP2). One car will be clearly better and that's the one all the privateers will buy for the 21/22 season - at which point we have a class fill of 'Orecas', with just the 2 cars each from the other manufacturers.Edited by //j17 on Thursday 6th December 11:32
“At least 25 identical engines, identical to the ones destined for the series production car homologated for road use equipped with this engine must have been produced;
“One complete engine is desposited with the FIA/ACO.
“At least 25 identical series production car homologated for road use equipped with this engine is produced by the end of the year of the first season this engine is competing in.
“At least 100 identical series production car homologated for road use equipped with this engine are produced by the end of the year of the second season this engine is competing in.
“The original engine is homologated with FIA/ACO.” (Article 5.3.2)
Looks like it isn't 'cars', just engines
“One complete engine is desposited with the FIA/ACO.
“At least 25 identical series production car homologated for road use equipped with this engine is produced by the end of the year of the first season this engine is competing in.
“At least 100 identical series production car homologated for road use equipped with this engine are produced by the end of the year of the second season this engine is competing in.
“The original engine is homologated with FIA/ACO.” (Article 5.3.2)
Looks like it isn't 'cars', just engines
FredericRobinson said:
“At least 25 identical series production car homologated for road use equipped with this engine is produced by the end of the year of the first season this engine is competing in.
So if, for example Mclaren build 25 road cars using 25 compatible engines, they could then sell engines #26 and #27 to Rebellion to use in their own race cars?Guess there's logic to that reading of the rules. Manufacturers are forced to build to a certain scale, at which point the unit cost comes down to a point privateers can afford (along with the matching Euro3 Million 'crate' KERS system).
Still not sure how the privateers work with the 'styling based on road car' bit.
It seems now that racing engines will be allowed without the homologation requirements...
https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a25435135...
https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a25435135...
So engines will be limited to 681.239hp to the rear wheels and 268.204hp to the fronts, and there will be success balast...
FFS are they TRYING to make it hypercar clone of ( and just as dull and pointless as) BTTC?
Won't the front hybrid more or less cancel out any difference in low down torque production from different engine configurations, making it basically a simpel aero/tactical success balast avoidance game?
FFS are they TRYING to make it hypercar clone of ( and just as dull and pointless as) BTTC?
Won't the front hybrid more or less cancel out any difference in low down torque production from different engine configurations, making it basically a simpel aero/tactical success balast avoidance game?
wsn03 said:
FredericRobinson said:
Dailysportscar now linking Ferrari with a WEC hypercar programme
Oh wow...here's hoping Redbull are now linked to the hypercar Group now as well. I expect with Aston Martin. http://www.thedrive.com/accelerator/25681/red-bull...
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