"Comes with 1 years MOT"
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I've heard this phrase used a lot over the years, especially in a lot of trade adverts. I've always been dubious about this - how many cars actually have an MOT done as opposed to having a MOT "written" without the car even so much as going into a garage? Funny, you very rarely ever see trade adverts with the headline "Comes with 1 years tax". Hmm.
Thoughts?
It's a lot more difficult to get a dodgy MOT these days I suspect, lots of them are fearful that there's a VOSA van up the road ready to nab them from my experience. I've had a few which.. let's say I know the car shouldn't have passed (emissions, decat etc), but did. These days it'd never happen.
I don't doubt there's a lot of cars go through pretty quickly without being properly inspected, but I expect the key stuff is usually looked at.
Could be wrong of course.
I don't doubt there's a lot of cars go through pretty quickly without being properly inspected, but I expect the key stuff is usually looked at.
Could be wrong of course.
An MOT is a certificate of roadworthiness at the time of inspection with any advisory issues noted that although not dangerous at the time will require attention before the next.Buyers regard an MOT as reassurance the vehicle is roadworthy so a long MOT is a good selling point and a lot cheaper than putting on tax which gives nothing to the vehicle in terms of its condition.
As with all things there are good and bad but a tester that issues tickets ad-hoc will get caught in the end,a AA or RAC inspection is probably better but the general car buying public are not willing to pay for these services.
As with all things there are good and bad but a tester that issues tickets ad-hoc will get caught in the end,a AA or RAC inspection is probably better but the general car buying public are not willing to pay for these services.
One mIght presume that the seller is at least vaguely experienced in fault finding and knows the car will pass with nothing major. Therefore the full 12 (even 13) months might sway the buyer over a similarly priced vehicle without that.
Also I'd imagine most sellers have a nominated garage they take all their work to, therefore if anything doesn't pass the MOT they might get a bit of a discounted rate in return for their repeat business.
As long as you sell more cars by putting it on than it costs you to fix them, then it's good business sense.
Also I'd imagine most sellers have a nominated garage they take all their work to, therefore if anything doesn't pass the MOT they might get a bit of a discounted rate in return for their repeat business.
As long as you sell more cars by putting it on than it costs you to fix them, then it's good business sense.
Stu R said:
It's a lot more difficult to get a dodgy MOT these days I suspect, lots of them are fearful that there's a VOSA van up the road ready to nab them from my experience. I've had a few which.. let's say I know the car shouldn't have passed (emissions, decat etc), but did. These days it'd never happen.
I don't doubt there's a lot of cars go through pretty quickly without being properly inspected, but I expect the key stuff is usually looked at.
Could be wrong of course.
I think you are!I don't doubt there's a lot of cars go through pretty quickly without being properly inspected, but I expect the key stuff is usually looked at.
Could be wrong of course.
A question I have wondered is, if an MOT is a certificate of road worthiness, shouldn't a garage be able to set different time scales for the next MOT, eg no advisories long MOT, a few advisories, shorter MOT and a lot of advisories set an even shorter MOT.
Suppose it would open the world to more dodgy MOT stations.
Suppose it would open the world to more dodgy MOT stations.
Stu R said:
It's a lot more difficult to get a dodgy MOT these days I suspect, lots of them are fearful that there's a VOSA van up the road ready to nab them from my experience. I've had a few which.. let's say I know the car shouldn't have passed (emissions, decat etc), but did. These days it'd never happen.
I don't doubt there's a lot of cars go through pretty quickly without being properly inspected, but I expect the key stuff is usually looked at.
Could be wrong of course.
If it is more difficult to get a dodgy MOT these days it's not to do with fear of VOSA. The level of garage visits has dropped to almost non existent and you can only get through to a poxy call centre rather than the inspectors nowadays. I don't doubt there's a lot of cars go through pretty quickly without being properly inspected, but I expect the key stuff is usually looked at.
Could be wrong of course.
Not surprising when you see the kind of financial mess they're in and the job losses they're making.
http://www.roadtransport.com/Articles/2010/11/22/1...
Stu R said:
It's a lot more difficult to get a dodgy MOT these days I suspect
You suspect wrong.And to the OP - I wouldn't be too fussed even if they were dodgy - an MOT only certifies that the vehicle was in a pass-worthy condition at the time of the test, in other words it's no different to any other MOT done, say, 3 weeks before. Obviously this doesn't help if the car is a total deathtrap.....
I think the OP is asking why trader adverts say "comes with 1 years MOT" when they don't have an MOT at that time?
Well, as it may take 1/2/3 months to sell a car, no point MOTing it there and then as every month that goes past, that's a month less that they can advertise. So they leave without an MOT until someone wants to buy the car then they send it to their "favourite" MOT place as part of the sale.
I think a "trick" is to discard the advisories sheet, so I would advise using that online service that tells you the results of the MOT.
If you're really paranoid, once you buy the car, have it MOT'd again straight away. If they find lots of faults, there would be a good case that the original MOT place may be doing "dodgy" MOTs for their dealer mate.
Well, as it may take 1/2/3 months to sell a car, no point MOTing it there and then as every month that goes past, that's a month less that they can advertise. So they leave without an MOT until someone wants to buy the car then they send it to their "favourite" MOT place as part of the sale.
I think a "trick" is to discard the advisories sheet, so I would advise using that online service that tells you the results of the MOT.
If you're really paranoid, once you buy the car, have it MOT'd again straight away. If they find lots of faults, there would be a good case that the original MOT place may be doing "dodgy" MOTs for their dealer mate.
Dracoro said:
I think the OP is asking why trader adverts say "comes with 1 years MOT" when they don't have an MOT at that time?
The impression that I get is that the OP thimks that some traders simply get an MOT done for them by a friend in the trade without even taking the car to the testing station.I guess what I was getting at is that when you see Trade Adverts, they usually say it comes with "a fresh MOT", or "Full MOT" - they basically use it as a selling point as though the person buying it doesn't have to worry about the car for at least a year! I know there are lot of dodgy car dealers out there who have a "friend" at another garage who they simply call and quote the car details to have a new MOT certificate printed. Of course that costs them something like trade rate of £27 or whatever - a small charge to be used as a big selling point.
Of course the car will have no advisories - why would it - because it is such a great car, nothing needs doing blah blah etc.
I know there are quality dealers out there but I just know there are a lot of dodgy dealers as well.
Shotgun Rider said:
Dracoro said:
I think the OP is asking why trader adverts say "comes with 1 years MOT" when they don't have an MOT at that time?
The impression that I get is that the OP thimks that some traders simply get an MOT done for them by a friend in the trade without even taking the car to the testing station.Dracoro said:
It wouldn't surprise me if that happens, hence my advice to get it MOT'd straight after buying it. If that highlighted a load of faults that would surely have been there the day before, you'd have good case with trading standards, VOSA etc. The MOT place would be up the famous creek without a paddle.
And thats why there are very few MOT stations doing this sort of thing these days....if they are doing it, they dont last for long.POORCARDEALER said:
if i buy a car today and MOT test it but dont sell it for 4 months then it hasnt got a full MOT which many buyers want, so most cars are MOT tested upon sale...also helps with cash flow as you havnt got loads of prepped unsold cars tying up cash for the prep.
TBH I would expect and hope they did that so the MOT is as "fresh" as possible when I bought the car. steveo3002 said:
amazing the amount of people that think the mot is some kind of refurb /massive service , as in oh its just had a mot it must be fine
a car can pass a proper mot and still have loads of shocking faults and wear
It should be safe, which is all many people are bothered about.a car can pass a proper mot and still have loads of shocking faults and wear
Deva Link said:
It should be safe, which is all many people are bothered about.
I'd not buy a car without an MOT, also if the asking price of the car is over £k I would expect and demand a fresh MOT as part of the purchase even if it has 9 months to go. Give it a fresh one it's £50 and I do not want to have the hassle of going for an mot within 12 months. If I did I'd want a cheaper car. That said the £1.1k car we bought last year came with a full MOT so it highlights how low for me you'd have to go before having short MOT.
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