What driving tuition?

[navier_stokes]

In my quest to become a better all round driver, I'm looking to do one of the following driver courses.... anyone have any opinions on them?


1. http://www.donpalmer.co.uk/carcontrol.htm
2. http://www.ridedrive.co.uk/performance-car-hpy03pm...
3. http://www.porsche.com/silverstone/en/experience/y...


This may be in addition to some IAM driving and a few trackdays, but I want learn more about fundamental car control before doing those.

[Benbay001]

navier_stokes said:

This may be in addition to some IAM driving and a few trackdays, but I want learn more about fundamental car control before doing those.

Hmm, thats the wrong way around, it should be IAM first, then performance car control
Don Palmer and Co are all high speed performance driving, right? You would be best off mastering the basics, Gear Position Speed etc other wise you will be wasting mr Palmer's time

[navier_stokes]

Benbay001 said:

Hmm, thats the wrong way around, it should be IAM first, then performance car control
Don Palmer and Co are all high speed performance driving, right? You would be best off mastering the basics, Gear Position Speed etc other wise you will be wasting mr Palmer's time

Really? I can't imagine the majority of people who attend his courses have passed the IAM test? E.g. others who want to concentrate on car control for track work/racing?

[anonymous-user]

look at your local ROADAR group too. basically you will get a lot more out of the paid for tuition if you have a good practical grasp of the roadcraft principles taught by IAM / ROADAR. No point wasting your money learning the basics that you can get for free

Whilst you are at silverstone on the porsche day, do some time on the slippy bits (including the ice hill if its fixed by then)

Approach all paid for tuition with specific objectives that you want to achieve in the session, you will get best value that way

[WhoseGeneration]

navier_stokes said:

In my quest to become a better all round driver, I'm looking to do one of the following driver courses.... anyone have any opinions on them?


1. http://www.donpalmer.co.uk/carcontrol.htm
2. http://www.ridedrive.co.uk/performance-car-hpy03pm...
3. http://www.porsche.com/silverstone/en/experience/y...


This may be in addition to some IAM driving and a few trackdays, but I want learn more about fundamental car control before doing those.

What's your definition of "a better all round driver"?

[thinfourth2]

this bloke is very well liked in some circles

http://www.carlimits.com/

[navier_stokes]

WhoseGeneration said:

navier_stokes said:

In my quest to become a better all round driver, I'm looking to do one of the following driver courses.... anyone have any opinions on them?


1. http://www.donpalmer.co.uk/carcontrol.htm
2. http://www.ridedrive.co.uk/performance-car-hpy03pm...
3. http://www.porsche.com/silverstone/en/experience/y...


This may be in addition to some IAM driving and a few trackdays, but I want learn more about fundamental car control before doing those.

What's your definition of "a better all round driver"?

I'm not sure about a definition, but see it as competent in road driving (observation, positioning, "smoothness), car control/limit handling and track driving.

I want to start with car control/handling as it will give me a better appreciation of the fundamental physics of driving a car and applicable to both road and track.

[Benbay001]

navier_stokes said:

Really? I can't imagine the majority of people who attend his courses have passed the IAM test? E.g. others who want to concentrate on car control for track work/racing?

If you want to enjoy the public roads, you had best start with IAM/ RoADAR.
If you want to drive fast on track, do the Porsche day.

[WhoseGeneration]

Benbay001 said:

If you want to enjoy the public roads, you had best start with IAM/ RoADAR.
If you want to drive fast on track, do the Porsche day.

OP, this is the best way to approach your quest to be "a better all round driver".
Then, to understand how to combine the elements of both, in any particular situation.
Remember, both have observation and planning as the first consideration.