Cut other drivers some slack - it won't hurt!

[Chris71]

thinfourth2 said:

If you want to see a look of utter confusion

let someone out of a sidestreet in london

Londoners are such gits, it's hilarious. Then when you do something nice for them - like people elsewhere do all the time - they give you a look of bewilderment, followed an expression designed to state: 'I don't understand why you're being nice to me, but I don't trust it ... don't think this means I owe you anything.'

[redgriff500]

thinfourth2 said:

redgriff500 said:

I used to drive to new areas every day as part of my job - what's the big deal ?

If you can't drive, get off the bloody road.

Why is your presence on the road more important then anyone elses?

It isn't which is PRECISELY why I DO drive competently.

I can't stand incompetence at any time and less so when it may directly cost me time / money.

More to the point why are YOU so important I should tolerate YOUR incompetence ?

Should we also tolerate you doing operations even though you aren't very good at it ?

Driving is NOT a right - do it right or don't do it !

[gareth.e]

marsred said:

Nimbus said:

satnav for a 4 mile journey ?

Perhaps preparing for the journey might have included looking at a map, rather than staring at a little screen and making last minute lane changes when the box beeped ?

In OP's defence, whilst I don't use sat nav (not a fan) even studying a map won't tell you about the odd local quirks of lane usage, especially during a rush hour where queues can form way before lanes split etc.

The problem is that every nano second counts and their nano second is far more important than yours.

+1

and the fact some sat navs are far too slow to update.

I'm usually fine, but I have been in position when using my phones navigation longs it out and I haven't got a clue whats going on..

[Alfanatic]

redgriff500 said:

More to the point why are YOU so important I should tolerate YOUR incompetence ?

Because you're perfectly capable of fking up too.

[Tom55]

Chris71 said:

Londoners are such gits, it's hilarious. Then when you do something nice forthem - like people elsewhere do all the time - they give you a look of bewilderment, followed an expression designed to state: 'I don't understand why you're being nice to me, but I don't trust it ... don't think this means I owe you anything.'

Much as I would love to agree with you, I am afraid having driven in every county in England sadly that isnt the case, I have had drivers let me out from side streets in London as often as in other parts of the country, and had drivers acting very incosideratly at about the same ratio across country too.

I suspect its when you drive locally you know area and probably give yourself a tighter timefarme to get to your destination, when venturing into the wild unknown you give yourself far more time, so are less in a hurry.

[thinfourth2]

redgriff500 said:

thinfourth2 said:

redgriff500 said:

I used to drive to new areas every day as part of my job - what's the big deal ?

If you can't drive, get off the bloody road.

Why is your presence on the road more important then anyone elses?

It isn't which is PRECISELY why I DO drive competently.

I can't stand incompetence at any time and less so when it may directly cost me time / money.

More to the point why are YOU so important I should tolerate YOUR incompetence ?

Should we also tolerate you doing operations even though you aren't very good at it ?

Driving is NOT a right - do it right or don't do it !

So if i don't know exactly what lane i should take do you suggest i get up at 2 in the morning so i don't cause you to be 5 seconds late on your journey as you are so fking important.

Also shouldn't a driving god allow others who aren't as god like in their driving skills? instead of being an impatient prick

[Harji]

I have a Sat-Nav but never use it unless I need some info (fuel, hotel etc). I even drove round Romania without a Sat-Nav.

I can always tell who is using sat-nav, they brake everytime there is a beep or warning, as some of those units pick any sort of microwave, or over the air signal and interpert it as a mobile speed cam or something.

And for 4 miles, come on!

[sday12]

duckers26 said:

Romford

I've found your problem.

[andy-xr]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Agreed.

Fine with people using sat navs, rather that than them pull over and potentially block traffic while they're trying to work out which map page they're on, and then finding out it's upside down. They're great. It's always a help to see whats coming up road wise, whether thats bends or a nice straight and alerts are always handy as well.

Also agree with the "treat them as though it's your mum in the car infront" comments

[B16JUS]

sday12 said:

duckers26 said:

Romford

I've found your problem.

Thats not a problem, from upminster its a gift.

either way is a straight road

[Flintstone]

thinfourth2 said:

redgriff500 said:

I used to drive to new areas every day as part of my job - what's the big deal ?

If you can't drive, get off the bloody road.

Why is your presence on the road more important then anyone elses?

Hmmm, I've read and re-read it and I can't see where he claims that. He does (sort of) have a point, don't you think?

[TheLurker]

For those that say 'just use a map - it's only 4 miles' it could be in a city. I am happy to drive the length of the country without a satnav (and prefer a map any day for this) but in a city centre which you don't know, satnavs are a very useful bit of kit.

[oldcynic]

TheLurker said:

For those that say 'just use a map - it's only 4 miles' it could be in a city. I am happy to drive the length of the country without a satnav (and prefer a map any day for this) but in a city centre which you don't know, satnavs are a very useful bit of kit.

Agree completely.

Needed to get from Euston to Wandsworth a couple of weeks ago, midweek evening so traffic shouldn't have been too bad. I hadn't planned to drive into London at all so had no Satnav. No problem I thought - just point south, get over the river, then head southwest. Simple.

90 minutes later I've driven along Oxford Street, past Downing street, round Trafalgar Square, discovered roadworks on some High Street, and missed the crucial turning in Wandsworth necessitating a further 2 mile detour to get back to the right place. Stopping to read a map when you realise it's all going wrong in central London is not always an option

[Don Veloci]

TheLurker said:

I am happy to drive the length of the country without a satnav (and prefer a map any day for this) but in a city centre which you don't know, satnavs are a very useful bit of kit.

Agreed. Much prefer a quick recce on Google or a road atlas to note the road numbers and motorway junctions then have the satnav for the fine detail of getting to the door.

Regarding scenarios such as the OP I wonder if the average user looks at the satnav pictures more than the text? I can only speak for Garmin really but it does state the next road number and/or street name you're joining at the top of the screen which will usually match up to local signs or road markings.
My older model does not speak road numbers or street names. Perhaps newer versions do?

[Riley Blue]

Some SatNavs are capable of much more than navigation. Mine has a database of camera positions (updated weekly), routes me round traffic jams etc. - useful stuff even when on a familiar route, more so on a first-time trip.

[FraserLFA]

motco said:

Except that sometimes the satnav says 'bear right' at what has become a bend in the main road...

And i've yet to see a bear...

[Johnnytheboy]

sday12 said:

duckers26 said:

Romford

I've found your problem.

Yep, last time I went to Essex (Brentwood area) I was surprised how much less considerate drivers were.

[duckers26]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

[redgriff500]

thinfourth2 said:

redgriff500 said:

thinfourth2 said:

redgriff500 said:

I used to drive to new areas every day as part of my job - what's the big deal ?

If you can't drive, get off the bloody road.

Why is your presence on the road more important then anyone elses?

It isn't which is PRECISELY why I DO drive competently.

I can't stand incompetence at any time and less so when it may directly cost me time / money.

More to the point why are YOU so important I should tolerate YOUR incompetence ?

Should we also tolerate you doing operations even though you aren't very good at it ?

Driving is NOT a right - do it right or don't do it !

So if i don't know exactly what lane i should take do you suggest i get up at 2 in the morning so i don't cause you to be 5 seconds late on your journey as you are so fking important.

Also shouldn't a driving god allow others who aren't as god like in their driving skills? instead of being an impatient prick

No I suggest the ignorant / pea brained who can't cope with driving should get a bus / taxi.

Don't come on a car forum bleating because you can't drive properly.

[Schnellmann]

TheLurker said:

For those that say 'just use a map - it's only 4 miles' it could be in a city. I am happy to drive the length of the country without a satnav (and prefer a map any day for this) but in a city centre which you don't know, satnavs are a very useful bit of kit.

I used to drive everywhere without a Satnav (on holidays with the wife reading the map). I/we always got to our destination. But life is so much easier with Satnav. There are occasional blips but it is so much more relaxing. I used to survive with a Nissan Micra, without a mobile phone, hell, I even remember the time before PCs....but that doesn't mean I want those times back again!