RE: SOTW: Porsche 944
Discussion
anything fast said:
Lots of ppl moaning about rust? if it had major problems underneath it would probably be a failed MOT job..
The owner admits it has dents, sratches etc..(and a shocking coloured inside) these are not expensive cars at all, so a £1000 is about right. I have seen some tidy ones (with little or no rust at all) selling for £2000 and under so what do u expect?
Hahaha! The owner admits it has dents, sratches etc..(and a shocking coloured inside) these are not expensive cars at all, so a £1000 is about right. I have seen some tidy ones (with little or no rust at all) selling for £2000 and under so what do u expect?
1: MOT's and rust - I'm ure we know where to take a car that will pass an MOT easily?
2: As said previously they all look good on the outside.
3: I have wrote a buyers guide for someone on PH if this car ticks all the boxes I would be very, very shocked.
ESOG said:
meadowhog said:
I can remember driving around town in a 944Turbo with some subtle mods. 0-60 in 3.5 changing up to top gear at 187mph on the M4, flames out the exhaust. Good Times.
Im sorry but I cant believe that story. No way a 944 is hitting 0-60 in 3.5 with subtle modifications. And it certainly isnt topping out at 187mph! Please tell you werent serious when you posted that, were you? because most posts where people are joking usually follow up some silly claim with a roll of the eyes.
With 14 posts under your belt, I am almost leaning towards troll. But look, maybe your a young kid, maybe your a dissillusioned adult, maaaybbeee your a pathological liar, I dont know and I dont bother too much to find out either, but if I may, a word of advice for you young fella. If your new to a forum and want to 'get in good' with its community, I may suggest not making such ludicrous claims. Please dont take my post too offensively, just throwing out a few words of wisdom. Take 'em or leave 'em.
And, welcome to PH!
Edited by ESOG on Saturday 21st May 01:01
St John Smythe said:
ESOG said:
meadowhog said:
I can remember driving around town in a 944Turbo with some subtle mods. 0-60 in 3.5 changing up to top gear at 187mph on the M4, flames out the exhaust. Good Times.
Im sorry but I cant believe that story. No way a 944 is hitting 0-60 in 3.5 with subtle modifications. And it certainly isnt topping out at 187mph! Please tell you werent serious when you posted that, were you? because most posts where people are joking usually follow up some silly claim with a roll of the eyes.
With 14 posts under your belt, I am almost leaning towards troll. But look, maybe your a young kid, maybe your a dissillusioned adult, maaaybbeee your a pathological liar, I dont know and I dont bother too much to find out either, but if I may, a word of advice for you young fella. If your new to a forum and want to 'get in good' with its community, I may suggest not making such ludicrous claims. Please dont take my post too offensively, just throwing out a few words of wisdom. Take 'em or leave 'em.
And, welcome to PH!
Edited by ESOG on Saturday 21st May 01:01
My dad had a D-reg 944 LUX when I was a kid, and my god it felt like the fastest thing in the world!
This was a time when people used to stop and point at the 944, people were genuinely impressed with a Porsche back then. Now, even a 911 is a common sight on the roads.
To think, my 123d has more power! How time's moved on!
I would, for sake of sentiment, love to go and buy another guards red 944 with teledials and black pinstripe interior just like my dad's old one!
And 3.5 seconds 0-60 in a 944 is laughable! Even in a track car, there just wouldn't be any traction!
This is why the 0-60 is hardly any better in a 997 GT2 than a 997.1 turbo.. once moving different story though.
I've launched my 997 Turbo which supposedly has timed at under 3.7 to 60 - it spins all 4 wheels - have you seen the size of the tyres on a 911 turbo?
And I'm no expert, but changing into top gear at 186mph - you'd surely need about double the standard 944 turbo power to get close to 200mph - even the 997.2 turbo tops out at just under.
This was a time when people used to stop and point at the 944, people were genuinely impressed with a Porsche back then. Now, even a 911 is a common sight on the roads.
To think, my 123d has more power! How time's moved on!
I would, for sake of sentiment, love to go and buy another guards red 944 with teledials and black pinstripe interior just like my dad's old one!
And 3.5 seconds 0-60 in a 944 is laughable! Even in a track car, there just wouldn't be any traction!
This is why the 0-60 is hardly any better in a 997 GT2 than a 997.1 turbo.. once moving different story though.
I've launched my 997 Turbo which supposedly has timed at under 3.7 to 60 - it spins all 4 wheels - have you seen the size of the tyres on a 911 turbo?
And I'm no expert, but changing into top gear at 186mph - you'd surely need about double the standard 944 turbo power to get close to 200mph - even the 997.2 turbo tops out at just under.
Jellymonster said:
St John Smythe said:
ESOG said:
meadowhog said:
I can remember driving around town in a 944Turbo with some subtle mods. 0-60 in 3.5 changing up to top gear at 187mph on the M4, flames out the exhaust. Good Times.
Im sorry but I cant believe that story. No way a 944 is hitting 0-60 in 3.5 with subtle modifications. And it certainly isnt topping out at 187mph! Please tell you werent serious when you posted that, were you? because most posts where people are joking usually follow up some silly claim with a roll of the eyes.
With 14 posts under your belt, I am almost leaning towards troll. But look, maybe your a young kid, maybe your a dissillusioned adult, maaaybbeee your a pathological liar, I dont know and I dont bother too much to find out either, but if I may, a word of advice for you young fella. If your new to a forum and want to 'get in good' with its community, I may suggest not making such ludicrous claims. Please dont take my post too offensively, just throwing out a few words of wisdom. Take 'em or leave 'em.
And, welcome to PH!
Edited by ESOG on Saturday 21st May 01:01
ESOG said:
I wonder, does anyone know the running costs on the 944? Like the clutch or exhaust, thinks lke that?
Exhaust = cheap, but a clutch will cost the best part of £1,000, even if its done relatively cheaply. The clutch itself will cost over £500...I cant help but smile at your 'experienced' words of wisdom to the newbie: youre not ecxactly an old soak yourself!
(see what I did there?)
Every week I read SOTW and almost every week I would buy the car, man I'm so shallow !Every week my dream shed changes, 850R's , 200sx's, now this porsche and every old Merc I see. It is a terrible tease on my empty wallet, no space on the drive, no tools or mechanical knowledge .. but i love it. Somewhere, someday I shall make a SOTW mine I have to as I drive a T reg Hyundai Atoz, 21k on the clock, cheap to run in all areas . No fills motoring , ticks all the cheap boxes, but the largest tick box remains unchecked. The " enjoy your drive ? " box .
I have to as I drive a T reg Hyundai Atoz, 21k on the clock, cheap to run in all areas . No fills motoring , ticks all the cheap boxes, but the largest tick box remains unchecked. The " enjoy your drive ? " box . meadowhog said:
Sorry I sould explain> It was a track car with Kevlar wherever possible, a heater and stereo, uck of turbo, blue printed engine,split rims, red,if only my ock was like it I wouldnt have needed it. Subtlety and foreplay are more my style now.
If you get tired of foreplay my 944 may be up for grabs next week. It's too heavy for a sub 4sec 0-60 but 187 and flames are pretty standard.Promised a chap first dibs but if he doesn't want it it'll be in the classifieds monday
Niffty951 said:
meadowhog said:
Sorry I sould explain> It was a track car with Kevlar wherever possible, a heater and stereo, uck of turbo, blue printed engine,split rims, red,if only my ock was like it I wouldnt have needed it. Subtlety and foreplay are more my style now.
If you get tired of foreplay my 944 may be up for grabs next week. It's too heavy for a sub 4sec 0-60 but 187 and flames are pretty standard.Promised a chap first dibs but if he doesn't want it it'll be in the classifieds monday
Seriously, PM me with the price please.
Niffty951 said:
If you get tired of foreplay my 944 may be up for grabs next week. It's too heavy for a sub 4sec 0-60 but 187 and flames are pretty standard.
Promised a chap first dibs but if he doesn't want it it'll be in the classifieds monday
Wow, I've just looked through the thread about your car and that looks awesome!Promised a chap first dibs but if he doesn't want it it'll be in the classifieds monday
Now that's a 944 that looks seriously fun to drive!
ESOG said:
You know, in '88, a Lotus Esprit was doing the 60mph sprint in the low 6's.
About 5 sec. At least the SE (1989->). Non Chargecooled (1988): mid 5's.
http://www.lotusespritturbo.com/Lotus_Esprit_Model...
edited for adding source
Edited by Fuelbrother DC on Sunday 22 May 12:50
Fuelbrother DC said:
ESOG said:
You know, in '88, a Lotus Esprit was doing the 60mph sprint in the low 6's.
About 5 sec. At least the SE (1989->). Non Chargecooled (1988): mid 5's.
http://www.lotusespritturbo.com/Lotus_Esprit_Model...
edited for adding source
Edited by Fuelbrother DC on Sunday 22 May 12:50
Lotus Espirit SE 1985 BHP=180 0-60 6.8 secs
Porsche 944S 1986 BHP=187 0-60 7.5 secs
Porsche 944 turboS 1988 BHP=250 0-60 5.6 secs.
Figures from Car Folio
Strawman said:
Why not compare like with like though ?
Lotus Espirit SE 1985 BHP=180 0-60 6.8 secs
Porsche 944S 1986 BHP=187 0-60 7.5 secs
Porsche 944 turboS 1988 BHP=250 0-60 5.6 secs.
Figures from Car Folio
There was neither an 'Espirit' nor an 'SE' 1985, though...Lotus Espirit SE 1985 BHP=180 0-60 6.8 secs
Porsche 944S 1986 BHP=187 0-60 7.5 secs
Porsche 944 turboS 1988 BHP=250 0-60 5.6 secs.
Figures from Car Folio
Figures from a Turbo Esprit 1985: 5.5 sec
Figures from a N/A Esprit 1985: 6.8 sec
And what does 'like with like' mean, when you're mixing up different car generations (Stevens vs. Giugiaro) and model years? 1985 <-> 1988
That said: I like both - friend of mine owns a late silver 944 NA with 163HP, lovely car (albeit a bit out of breath). I'm always smitten by it's 'easyness' to drive. No match for an Esprit, though. You shouldn't compare them: Different layout, concept and breed. 911 is more on par (depending on model, also above, no doubt).
Edited by Fuelbrother DC on Monday 23 May 09:31
Fuelbrother DC said:
And what does 'like with like' mean,
Giving the times for the turbocharged Esprit against the normally aspirated 944 0-60 time. Instead of the NA Esprit. Fuelbrother DC said:
That said: I like both - friend of mine owns a late silver 944 NA with 163HP, lovely car (albeit a bit out of breath). I'm always smitten by it's 'easyness' to drive. No match for an Esprit, though. You shouldn't compare them: Different layout, concept and breed. 911 is more on par (depending on model, also above, no doubt).
The turbo 944 is a match for the turbo Esprit though, I also don't agree that the 911 is more like an Esprit than the 944, OK you have front engined, mid engined and rear engined. But the 944 turbo was a performance match for the 911SC of it's day (slower fractionally to 60 but higher top speed), and cost the same new as the 911SC well(IIRC). The driving position in a 944 is similar to a Esprit, much more like it than a 911 anyway.Edited by Strawman on Monday 23 May 11:31
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