RE: Three Years Free Servicing For Nissan GT-R

[Turbo Harry]

5lab said:

M666 EVO said:

Dagnut said:

Computers doing the work.
Not real drivers car.
Too Heavy.
Cheap jap interior.
911.
fake ring times.
Chocolatey gearbox


Now all the rubbish is out of the can way get on with the topic?

You forgot:

Playstation
Dawn Frenchs A*se

you both forgot

driving into anything at more than 0.5mph will cost you £30k

Especially if you used the launch control.

[eliot]

Guvernator said:

The GTR is billed as the "Everyman's Supercar Slayer" so it's a bit rich to expect Ferrari level service schedules and pricing for a £60k Nissan, no matter how good it is. This is a good move on Nissan's part to alleviate some of those worries.

Had a little dice with one of these in my vxr8 the other day. Was a bit quicker than mine, but only by a few car lenghts. Got a thumbs up from the driver, so I guess he was happy. So are we saying that my crappy vauxhall is nearly a supercar slayer?!

Oh and servicing is £150 on mine

[loveice]

jellison said:

loveice said:

jellison said:

Stu R said:

jellison said:

zakelwe said:

jellison said:

If Only TVR could have done this - might still be in business (or maybe not based on the SP6).

Make you wanna get a GTR - Nice cars, But Christ they are BIG!

That's the one thing that puts me off them, the rear end looks similar in size to Dawn French's. If you put 4 red tea plates on Dawn's arse they would be indistinguishable.

Why is it so big? You can't knock the performance though.

Yep on in our car park at work - Huge thing! Compared to the 3rd Gen GTR.


Personally I get rid of all the 4x4 trickery (maybe need bigger stickers rears though), ala how they have to race them in the Current GT1.

Have you driven one out of curiosity? They really do a superb job of hiding their enormous bulk and mass when they're hurtled. I found it quite surreal compared to my R33 GTR, which by R32 GTR standards was deemed a bit of a bloater.

Nope - but then there alot of fast cars I and most on here will never have driven.

Personally I like my cars to be alot Crazier, that something that does it all for you with computers. Any half reasonable pilot can go fast in a 4x4 Rally or GTR type toy.

I like less grip - i.e. you are involved and have to contribute alot more at legal (and highly illegal) speeds that in such things.

But that is just me.

I do enjoy watching them in GT1 racing (ESPN) though, but all slicked up and RWD, they may even be non-turbo with a V8 (think no turbos due to all that equalisation bull) - I'll check.

So, in your mind all those great recent rally drivers are only 'half reasonable pilots'. Only people who compete in drifting are good drivers?

This must be what you call a perfect car then. Definitely has less grip than anything out there. And definitely need its driver to contribute more than even a fighter pilot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0t5juiDfr8

That is NOT what I said - what is said was (or implied) was a very average driver can look like a driving god in one of these or EVO / Scooby type things - Piss easy to Drift these things and look cool - Oh abd Drifting id just W*nking on 4 wheels (Muppets).

Tope level Rally Drivers are Right up there (maybe better in the real world) with the best in F1. Those car are being driven by then best and have sooo much changed over their looki likely street homologation equivalents.

More my sort of thing.

450bhp, "Tiny" Wheelbase, relatively narrow low grip tyres, no aero. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_GtDHX2dyw&tra... Power to weight, way past a road GTR.

OK enough of me.

I'll let you get back to Grand Turismo 5

I never owned a Play Station or X Box. And I don't have a single Japanese car in my garage or drive. In fact, I own a 996... But, I also totally understand and get this GTR.

[FishFace]

Guvernator said:

icebite78 said:

Guvernator said:

Those were just the tip of the iceberg, there was a whole thread on the GT-R forum. Nissan even published some yearly running cost "guidelines" based on doing an average 12000 per year. The running costs per year on the GT-R were working out at over £2k a year which imo is pretty steep for a car which originally cost £50k. Maybe it was Nissan's fault for selling the GT-R so cheaply but see my post above for why they couldn't have realisticlly sold it for any more than that. 9 At £70k it certainly isn't seen as such a performance bargain anymore despite the still impressive stats and poor sales figures have shown this to be true.

I really do think your out of touch here with the times we live in btw you talk you must be in the (very older generation of people)bracket.
Just because its a japanese brand,now days does not mean its cheap or has to be, as they say you have to pay to play.The 'stigma' your talking about that you have, i have yet to see ,the respect the gtr now commandes on the road you just would'nt believe, remember at 70k your only still in gen2 carrera money which is the same model that came as px for a GTR at my local HPC only last week.
The world realy has moved on from the cheap jap era's of the 90's which your still stuck in or dont want to see past.Sit in one, you will see what i mean,i do every morning and after temps are up and i flick that leather tipped paddle to change up i realise how wrong was i that i didnt sell my 911 turbo sooner.Car is in a different league mate about time you started thinking out of box a bit.

Out of the box, have you looked at my car history? I actually owned a R34 GT-R and have been into GT-R's in general for longer than that so I don't think I can be accused of not thinking outside the box, I'm certianly a GT-R fan. Also if you call 30 something old then I guess I am old. As for living in a different era I don't think so. Car enthusiasts might know about the latest GT-R but 90% of people still think of Japanese cars as cheap, this is just as true today as it was in the 90's. The reason for this is because 90% of Japanese cars made and sold today ARE cheap and sold like white goods. The GT-R and other such cars are the exception to that rule. I was commenting on the fact that it's very difficult for the majority of people (not myself) to see past that stigma even today. Admittedly the GT-R has done alot to change some attitudes, simply because of how good it is and the wide exposure it has recieved in various media but I still don't think we are at a stage where a Japanese performance car would be accepted by the majority of people over it's European rivals. Just look how many GT-R's were sold compared to a 911 Carrera despite the fact that it's performance would absolutely crush the standard 911.

Judging by your lack of understanding of the point I was trying to make and attitude I can only assume you are what I refer to as a "newage GT-R" owner. Much like Chelsea supporters after Abromivich poured in his millions, all these GT-R fans have suddenly come out of the woodwork ready to defend " the bestest car ever made" TM to the death. Where were you all a few years ago when the GT-R was relatively obscure? I know the answer, you were all fawning over the last latest and greatest toy. GT-R fans like you actually do the marque no favours at all with your over defensive attitude and failure to see past anything not GT-R. I as a longtime GT-R fan have massive respect for what the new GT-R has done but I can also see why a lot of people might not like it or think it's not worth the asking price.

Edited by Guvernator on Thursday 2nd June 16:27

I love the 'btw you talk you must be in the (very older generation of people)bracket' part of the post. I presume he concludes that because you're actually literate.

[Wayney]

The FREE servicing is a CON!!

You have to buy the car on finance, so you your paying their APR% so paying over the odds, as you could get a better APR on a loan or funding it another way!!

Also the 3yrs free servicing is a quick way for them to kick you in the ball every time the car is in with their FREE VISUAL HEALTH CHECK!! As they are bound to find stuff that need doing and replacing!!

RIP OFF CON!!! NISSAN HANG UR HEAD IN SHAME!!!

Personally I would buy one and get it serviced at an independent specialist, who I know is not gonna rip me off!!

P.S. How many owners has had work done for FREE under their three year warranty, when things go wrong?

Edited by Wayney on Friday 3rd June 02:38

[AndyBrew]

Guvernator said:

Just look how many GT-R's were sold compared to a 911 Carrera despite the fact that it's performance would absolutely crush the standard 911.

Edited by Guvernator on Thursday 2nd June 16:27

I think you'll find that says a lot more about 911 purchasers than anything else, not all may I add but a high percentage of badge snobs.

[Foggy748]

Wayney said:

The FREE servicing is a CON!!

You have to buy the car on finance, so you your paying their APR% so paying over the odds, as you could get a better APR on a loan or funding it another way!!

Also the 3yrs free servicing is a quick way for them to kick you in the ball every time the car is in with their FREE VISUAL HEALTH CHECK!! As they are bound to find stuff that need doing and replacing!!

RIP OFF CON!!! NISSAN HANG UR HEAD IN SHAME!!!

Personally I would buy one and get it serviced at an intendant specialist, who I know is not gonna rip me off!!

P.S. How many owners has had work done for FREE under their three year warranty, when things go wrong?

Yep, totally agree with the above. You don't get something for nothing in this world. The other drawback of this 'Free Servicing' is that you must have your car serviced at a Nissan HPC. My experience of my nearest HPC is nothing short of abysmal and I would never trust my car with them, ever! BTW, HPC = High Price Centre
All my servicing work is carried out by a very well established independant who knows this car inside out and also knows the importance of great customer service!!

[AndyBrew]

I'm off to litchfields tomorrow with my 2010 car and I'm not feeling upset by this offer in the slightest, to only get it if you use finance is plain ridiculous in my eyes.

[pidsy]

Id still buy one.

If i had £60k to buy one, i wouldnt need gimmicks to lure me. Everyone knows that "free" servicing isnt actually free.

[jbi]

zakelwe said:

Why is it so big? You can't knock the performance though.

According to the designer it was designed to be large and heavy deliberately for grip and stability

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1izuj3ku8k

EDIT: it's 4 inches shorter than a mustang or 2 inches longer than an m3, so not that large at all really

Edited by jbi on Thursday 2nd June 19:20

[icebite78]

Guvernator said:

Out of the box, have you looked at my car history? I actually owned a R34 GT-R and have been into GT-R's in general for longer than that so I don't think I can be accused of not thinking outsithe box, I'm certianly a GT-R fan. Also if you call 30 something old then I guess I am old. As for living in a different era I don't think so. Car enthusiasts might know about the latest GT-R but 90% of people still think of Japanese cars as cheap, this is just as true today as it was in the 90's. The reason for this is because 90% of Japanese cars made and sold today ARE cheap and sold like white goods. The GT-R and other such cars are the exception to that rule. I was commenting on the fact that it's very difficult for the majority of people (not myself) to see past that stigma even today. Admittedly the GT-R has done alot to change some attitudes, simply because of how good it is and the wide exposure it has recieved in various media but I still don't think we are at a stage where a Japanese performance car would be accepted by the majority of people over it's European rivals. Just look how many GT-R's were sold compared to a 911 Carrera despite the fact that it's performance would absolutely crush the standard 911.

Judging by your lack of understanding of the point I was trying to make and attitude I can only assume you are what I refer to as a "newage GT-R" owner. Much like Chelsea supporters after Abromivich poured in his millions, all these GT-R fans have suddenly come out of the woodwork ready to defend " the bestest car ever made" TM to the death. Where were you all a few years ago when the GT-R was relatively obscure? I know the answer, you were all fawning over the last latest and greatest toy. GT-R fans like you actually do the marque no favours at all with your over defensive attitude and failure to see past anything not GT-R. I as a longtime GT-R fan have massive respect for what the new GT-R has done but I can also see why a lot of people might not like it or think it's not worth the asking price.

Edited by Guvernator on Thursday 2nd June 16:27

I may have mis understood your post there,you just come across so negative,but you accuse me of being a new age gtr owner...but again your negativity and defencive attitude has clouded your judgement too in accusing people of what they are not, i have had 2x R34 GTR's,but that should'nt really matter should it.When i said think out of the box i ment it as you were coming across like you had german blinkers on,stsrange still as someone who owned the previous generation and seen how good that was cant grasp that 70k and all the running costs for this car is worth it.
Probabaly means you never quite grasped the whole concept of the car.BTW dont be so bitter new customers to the brand is what it neeeds,just because some few never owned the previous carnation does'nt make them less qualified to own or become a new fan of the GTR,after all if people want information about how the GTR came to life they have google all it takes is a good read. Nothing wrong in becoming a new chelsea fan either(im not)stop judging not good.

Edited by icebite78 on Thursday 2nd June 22:11

[rj1986]

What would be the price saving in getting 3 years servicing, versus a 1-2 year old model + servicing.

I reckon the savings on a preowned would dwarf servicing costs.

[neon_fox]

icebite78 said:

stop judging not good.

Oh dear, you're not being judgemental about being judgemental, are you?

[Wayney]

Foggy748 said:

Yep, totally agree with the above. You don't get something for nothing in this world. The other drawback of this 'Free Servicing' is that you must have your car serviced at a Nissan HPC. My experience of my nearest HPC is nothing short of abysmal and I would never trust my car with them, ever! BTW, HPC = High Price Centre
All my servicing work is carried out by a very well established independant who knows this car inside out and also knows the importance of great customer service!!

Which independent do u use?

[Wayney]

If sales are down this year! Then may be the marketing team should click on to the fact that the car needs freshing up!

How about GTR V-Spec GT3 (Light weight, stripped, roll cage, carbon bucket seats, 6 point harness etc etc etc)

Also offer a rear wheel drive only version, like the Balboni Gallardo?

After all the GTR is dominating the GT1 World Series, bring out a limited edition GT1 Model.

This is the problem with Jap manufacturers, they develope a fab, class leading car, then sit back & think that's it, we'll flog it as it is for the next 10 years! Honda with NSX 1990-2010! Then Toyota Supra 1990-2001!

Nissan ur def reading this thread with all your social media listening software! PM me & I'll help you sort your marketing out & help you shift st loads of the cars in exchange for a GTR

[JumpinJack]

wackojacko said:

If I were in the Market for one this probably would odds it for me.

Although this goes against everything I've said about me never buying a "new" car.
You can pick up a year old GTR for 40K
E92 M3's hanging just below 30k mark

You lose so much money !

I can't believe you haven't been battered into the ground by all the "How-dare-you-compare-new-to-second-hand" activists.

But yes! I completely agree. And whenever I see a GTR I will always stop and stare more so than any of the other cars in the same class.

[NoelWatson]

jbi said:

According to the designer it was designed to be large and heavy deliberately for grip and stability

How would weight help grip?

Edited by NoelWatson on Friday 3rd June 08:23

[al1991]

Wayney said:

The FREE servicing is a CON!!

You have to buy the car on finance, so you your paying their APR% so paying over the odds, as you could get a better APR on a loan or funding it another way!!

Also the 3yrs free servicing is a quick way for them to kick you in the ball every time the car is in with their FREE VISUAL HEALTH CHECK!! As they are bound to find stuff that need doing and replacing!!

RIP OFF CON!!! NISSAN HANG UR HEAD IN SHAME!!!

Personally I would buy one and get it serviced at an independent specialist, who I know is not gonna rip me off!!

P.S. How many owners has had work done for FREE under their three year warranty, when things go wrong?

Edited by Wayney on Friday 3rd June 02:38

Did you think they were doing it for the good of their health?

They're a business, they want to incentivise buyers without losing revenue.

[oilit]

what a bizzarre promotion - 3 years or 27k miles - with the uk average mileage supposed to be 12k per annum - more likely 15k I suspect, I always thought this car was positioned as an everyday usage type of car - not your weekend porn - thus if its doing 15k miles a year your free servicing will expire before the second anniversary.......most other manufacturers do at least 12k per annum mileage limits = 36k miles or 3 years whichever occurs first.

I know somebody who has one, and he has to put a new set of tyres every 6k miles ....i doubt he has a light right foot though.

[TimJMS]

I don't have a light right foot either. She needs rears now but I've 13,000 miles on the clock. My CSL would get through a set of Pilot Cup Sports in a day at Croft. My Q7 on 21's eats a set every 6,000 miles.