RE: Three Years Free Servicing For Nissan GT-R

[jellison]

al1991 said:

Wayney said:

The FREE servicing is a CON!!

You have to buy the car on finance, so you your paying their APR% so paying over the odds, as you could get a better APR on a loan or funding it another way!!

Also the 3yrs free servicing is a quick way for them to kick you in the ball every time the car is in with their FREE VISUAL HEALTH CHECK!! As they are bound to find stuff that need doing and replacing!!

RIP OFF CON!!! NISSAN HANG UR HEAD IN SHAME!!!

Personally I would buy one and get it serviced at an independent specialist, who I know is not gonna rip me off!!

P.S. How many owners has had work done for FREE under their three year warranty, when things go wrong?

Edited by Wayney on Friday 3rd June 02:38

Did you think they were doing it for the good of their health?

They're a business, they want to incentivise buyers without losing revenue.

Bloody good point.

Mind you I am one of those that would never buy anything on a loan! Just madness - you don't pay the sticker price, you pay WAY more and it is loosing half it value in the first and often the only 3 years that most people own these sorts of things.

APR and Free Servicing - hahaha.

[jbi]

NoelWatson said:

How would weight help grip?

Edited by NoelWatson on Friday 3rd June 08:23

did you follow the video I sent you?

They worked out what tyre size they needed for the power and what weight they needed to optimise grip for aforementioned tyre size.

I'm not an engineer, so I trust they know better than me or you

[Guvernator]

icebite78 said:

I may have mis understood your post there,you just come across so negative,but you accuse me of being a new age gtr owner...but again your negativity and defencive attitude has clouded your judgement too in accusing people of what they are not, i have had 2x R34 GTR's,but that should'nt really matter should it.When i said think out of the box i ment it as you were coming across like you had german blinkers on,stsrange still as someone who owned the previous generation and seen how good that was cant grasp that 70k and all the running costs for this car is worth it.
Probabaly means you never quite grasped the whole concept of the car.BTW dont be so bitter new customers to the brand is what it neeeds,just because some few never owned the previous carnation does'nt make them less qualified to own or become a new fan of the GTR,after all if people want information about how the GTR came to life they have google all it takes is a good read. Nothing wrong in becoming a new chelsea fan either(im not)stop judging not good.

Edited by icebite78 on Thursday 2nd June 22:11

Oh I can grasp the concept of a GT-R alright. I thought the R34 was fantastic in it's ability to outperform cars much higher up the scale. Also running costs while not being cheap weren't exactly ruinous either for the level of performance. The whole point of the GT-R is that bang for buck it punches way above it's weight. The R35 when it was priced at £50k did exactly the same thing, however I still think the running costs are a bit too extravagant for that level of car and the new £70k price tag is getting dangeroulsy close to being too expensive, even for a GT-R. I just think Nissan have to be careful how they manage the GT-R brand. Monumental performance was not the only trump card of the previous generation GT-R, they were also easy to tune, had a reputation for being reliable and were cheaper than their rivals.

I've followed the new GT-R and while I admit I don't have an owners point of view, from what I have read and heard from owners it's not as reliable as it could be, the drivetrain particularly seeming to be a weakpoint. The initial running costs published by Nissan themselves also seems very high, like it or not people aren't used to such high running costs for a Nissan, no matter how fast it might be. I also think some of it is Nissan taking the p*ss to be honest with some of their prices because they think they can get away with it. Either way I think they need to be very careful about not overvaluing the GT-R brand out of the market as like it or not their is only so much the majority of people will be willing to pay to own a Nissan, even if it does have the legendary GT-R letters after it.

[NoelWatson]

jbi said:

NoelWatson said:

How would weight help grip?

Edited by NoelWatson on Friday 3rd June 08:23

did you follow the video I sent you?

They worked out what tyre size they needed for the power and what weight they needed to optimise grip for aforementioned tyre size.

I'm not an engineer, so I trust they know better than me or you

I watched the video, but am not sure exactly what he was getting at (and I am an engineer).

[GroundEffect]

NoelWatson said:

I watched the video, but am not sure exactly what he was getting at (and I am an engineer).

The rationale I've heard is that giving more weight makes the car more consistently grippy in different circumstances/on different surfaces. Like snow, or wet roads.

And I am an engineer too.

[NoelWatson]

GroundEffect said:

NoelWatson said:

I watched the video, but am not sure exactly what he was getting at (and I am an engineer).

The rationale I've heard is that giving more weight makes the car more consistently grippy in different circumstances/on different surfaces. Like snow, or wet roads.

And I am an engineer too.

GroundEffect said:

The rationale I've heard is that giving more weight makes the car more consistently grippy in different circumstances/on different surfaces. Like snow, or wet roads.

One could then wonder why rally cars strive to be as light as regulations allow.

GroundEffect said:

And I am an engineer too.

O/T - Sadly, all of my friends that did engineering now work in other sectors.

[jbi]

Hey... the performance figures don't lie.

Perhaps fire off a letter to Nissan and maybe they will get back to you with a more detailed explanation.

What we do know is that the GTR's weight does not negatively affect it's performance

[Guvernator]

jbi said:

Hey... the performance figures don't lie.

Perhaps fire off a letter to Nissan and maybe they will get back to you with a more detailed explanation.

What we do know is that the GTR's weight does not negatively affect it's performance

Erm I'm sorry but that is bullcr*p. The GT-R is quick because it has a great responsive engine, married to a fast gearbox, decent suspension and a very clever 4WD system, ie it's quick despite it's weight not because of it. Do not listen to the Nissan PR crap, any engineer worth his salt will tell you it's poppycock. If it was the case that the weight really does make it quicker, why have they made the £100k V-Spec version of the GT-R lighter in a bid to make it quicker?

The only effect the weight has on the GT-R is that is wears out the consumables and puts extra strain on the cars components meaning you wear them out quicker. Weight is never a good thing on a car, please do not listen to the Nissan PR saying otherwise, you'll only propogate the myth and then all the manufacturers will be using it as an excuse to make cars even heavier then they are now.

[guestGTR]

M666 EVO said:

Dagnut said:

Computers doing the work.
Not real drivers car.
Too Heavy.
Cheap jap interior.
911.
fake ring times.
Chocolatey gearbox


Now all the rubbish is out of the can way get on with the topic?

You forgot:

Playstation
Dawn Frenchs A*se

Please back up these comments as im struggling to understand whether you're A,both 5 years old or B, both completely stupid .....
im thinking both ......

[Paul_M3]

guestGTR said:

M666 EVO said:

Dagnut said:

Computers doing the work.
Not real drivers car.
Too Heavy.
Cheap jap interior.
911.
fake ring times.
Chocolatey gearbox


Now all the rubbish is out of the can way get on with the topic?

You forgot:

Playstation
Dawn Frenchs A*se

Please back up these comments as im struggling to understand whether you're A,both 5 years old or B, both completely stupid .....
im thinking both ......

I'm guessing you're the slightly stupid one, as Dagnut was clearly pre-empting all the usual idiotic comments and getting them out of the way in one go. Hence his final statement of "Now all the rubbish is out of the can way get on with the topic?"

[guestGTR]

if thats the case then fair play ... buts thats not how i read it ...

[SnoopD]

I'm not surprised that Nissan have done this.

I purchased a new a GTR 2 months ago & managed to get a good deal on a new 2010 model. I think Nissan have been a bit too greedy with the £10,000 hike, making a few minor adjustments including sticking on some ugly LEDs to the bottom of the front bumper, changed the alloys etc to then justify this outrageous increase.

I looked at the 2010 & 2011 model side by side & thought with the generous discount on the new 2010 model factored in, on top of the initial £10,000 difference, the deal was just tool tempting to ignore. The dealer staff also admitted they didn't really notice much difference between the 2 models from a driving prospective.

I have been very unhappy with the service I received from the Nissan Dealer I purchased the car from..... echoed by many other owners!

As others say, the free servicing deal is not particularly attractive & the major cost difference cannot be justified. The dealer told me they couldn't give me 1p off the 2011 model as they have to protect the residuals. I'm sure this will change by the end of the year!

For the record, the car is awesome. I receive many compliments & admirers are respectful.

[Trommel]

SnoopD said:

I think Nissan have been a bit too greedy with the £10,000 hike, making a few minor adjustments including sticking on some ugly LEDs to the bottom of the front bumper, changed the alloys etc to then justify this outrageous increase

£10k is a lot, but there's far more changed than you can see.

[SnoopD]

Agreed. The technician said that to me when I took the car in for it's free 1200 mile check up.

Anyone looking to buy now has no choice but to go for the 2011 model as I believe the last few 2010 models have gone. Obviously a class leafing car no one can deny. You don't get much from Porsche for £70,000?!

[Dagnut]

Paul_M3 said:

guestGTR said:

M666 EVO said:

Dagnut said:

Computers doing the work.
Not real drivers car.
Too Heavy.
Cheap jap interior.
911.
fake ring times.
Chocolatey gearbox


Now all the rubbish is out of the can way get on with the topic?

You forgot:

Playstation
Dawn Frenchs A*se

Please back up these comments as im struggling to understand whether you're A,both 5 years old or B, both completely stupid .....
im thinking both ......

I'm guessing you're the slightly stupid one, as Dagnut was clearly pre-empting all the usual idiotic comments and getting them out of the way in one go. Hence his final statement of "Now all the rubbish is out of the can way get on with the topic?"

Spot on..these always descend into the same nonsense