Nobody wants big engined petrols for trade-in.
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GBB said:
I didn't ask just to make a point, but was genuinely curious, but if you're down to that kind of speed then there is only 10mpg difference between the 1.1 and the 2.8.
That 10 mpg gap will open up to a canyon if you floor the 2.8 though.
Intersting point. I read your respone and immediatly thought bullsThat 10 mpg gap will open up to a canyon if you floor the 2.8 though.
t!But yes, I've seen a fair few claims of 40mpg out of cars like 328s when driven steady. I think the main difference would be the temptation. I used to routinly sit at 90 when I drove my Zr 160 as it was so easy, but every other car I've cruised betwen 65 and 70.
Definatly worth looking into! I think I'll be ditching the 1.1 soon and looking towards a 3.0v6 (due to persuasion from PHeds like yourself)
StottyZr said:
GBB said:
I didn't ask just to make a point, but was genuinely curious, but if you're down to that kind of speed then there is only 10mpg difference between the 1.1 and the 2.8.
That 10 mpg gap will open up to a canyon if you floor the 2.8 though.
Intersting point. I read your respone and immediatly thought bullsThat 10 mpg gap will open up to a canyon if you floor the 2.8 though.
t!But yes, I've seen a fair few claims of 40mpg out of cars like 328s when driven steady. I think the main difference would be the temptation. I used to routinly sit at 90 when I drove my Zr 160 as it was so easy, but every other car I've cruised betwen 65 and 70.
Definatly worth looking into! I think I'll be ditching the 1.1 soon and looking towards a 3.0v6 (due to persuasion from PHeds like yourself)
However the temptation you mention is the real problem. I used mine to commute to Birmingham and despite my best "I'll drive slowly to save fuel" ideas I always ended up thinking, "sod the fuel if I drive faster I get home quicker". The only way I can get the 40mpg is to leave so early for a meeting that there is no point driving quicker.
Problem is that I had the same mentality in smaller engined stuff so didn't get the mpg benefits.
The solution is a convertible, my E30 isn't built for speed and every journey is enjoyable so the slower the better.
Edited by GBB on Friday 10th June 15:27
I managed to get 48mpg from A1 Garforth to A1 at Alnwick going 50/60mph all the way (50mph in the ANPR bits)
Just today on my way to work, where I normally average about 29mpg, I got 39mpg by taking it really steady (in reserve on fuel)
And that wasn't really holding people up either, just going with the flow and driving with what was going on well ahead in mind etc.
Big petrols are fine if you can restrain yourself, relative to something more efficient you drive 'normally' but probably get little fun from because it's not as interesting to start with!
Dave
Just today on my way to work, where I normally average about 29mpg, I got 39mpg by taking it really steady (in reserve on fuel)
And that wasn't really holding people up either, just going with the flow and driving with what was going on well ahead in mind etc.
Big petrols are fine if you can restrain yourself, relative to something more efficient you drive 'normally' but probably get little fun from because it's not as interesting to start with!
Dave
Carrot said:
Apart from an initial head gasket failure on my corsa (1998 1.4l Auto with 50k on clock), which cost around £400 to fix, it is one of the most reliable cars I have ever had.
Runs a teeeny bit lumpy at tickover but that's the only problem, and its not really a problem as it doesn't effect the driving of the car at all.
Cost of parts is bugger all, nothing expensive electronic in there and I can get a replacement engine for £250 with 6 months warranty if worst comes to the worst.
Driving a large luxury barge around may work for some, but whilst I am paying £23 for front discs and pads, im sticking with mine!
I'm sure it's a lovely drive and a pleasure to get in and you arrive at your destination 500 miles away feeling that you could drive straight home again without a problem at all......Runs a teeeny bit lumpy at tickover but that's the only problem, and its not really a problem as it doesn't effect the driving of the car at all.
Cost of parts is bugger all, nothing expensive electronic in there and I can get a replacement engine for £250 with 6 months warranty if worst comes to the worst.
Driving a large luxury barge around may work for some, but whilst I am paying £23 for front discs and pads, im sticking with mine!
PS I do have something smaller for a daily drive as short commutes in a barge 6 or 8 does hamer fuel no matter how gently you drive
B'stard Child said:
Willy Nilly said:
Those of you saying you are getting circa 30mpg out of V8's, frankly I'm not sure I believe you and if you are doing so, I'd like to witness the driving style that is required to get these figures. If I got my "stbox", as some people so eloquently put it, to do 30mpg I would be in ban territory, or at least a big fine and shagged brakes. It's a pity someone doesn't invent a cruise control when one sets the desired economy to travel at instead of the forward speed. Then we could all set our cruise' at 30mpg and us "stbox" drivers would be steaming past all the V8's.
Happy to help - if you are local feel free to drop in and experience ittbox", as some people so eloquently put it, to do 30mpg I would be in ban territory, or at least a big fine and shagged brakes. It's a pity someone doesn't invent a cruise control when one sets the desired economy to travel at instead of the forward speed. Then we could all set our cruise' at 30mpg and us "stbox" drivers would be steaming past all the V8's. 99 BMW 740 V8 overall mpg across 5 years of ownership is 27.2 (not trip computer but total mileage and total fuel calculated) On a run at M-way speeds it easily returns better than 30mpg - motorways are s
tty places with speed cameras, congestion, drivers with poor lane control and can't hold a consistant speed. Trying to make progress is just way too stressfull and IMO frankly pointless. Stick some decent tunes in the CD changer, set the AC to a comfortable temperature and just enjoy a smooth (if slightly fiddly) ride and waft along stress free.I will state it's not my only car and driving style depends on car and route/roads but my other big saloon whilst not being a V8 (3.6L six banger with a couple of turbos) will also return similar mpg under the same M-way circumstances. (it will unfortunately do sub 15mpg when driven with some enthusiasm - horses for courses as someone said earlier)
BIST0 said:
My most economical car is currently averaging 19.5mpg. (Subaru Legacy 3.0 Spec B)
My second most economical car is currently averaging 15mpg. (Nissan GTR)
My third most economical car is currently averaging 13mpg. (Range Rover Classic 3.9 V8)
Enjoyment > Economy
I like that thinking. My second most economical car is currently averaging 15mpg. (Nissan GTR)
My third most economical car is currently averaging 13mpg. (Range Rover Classic 3.9 V8)
Enjoyment > Economy
Willy Nilly said:
B'stard Child said:
Willy Nilly said:
Those of you saying you are getting circa 30mpg out of V8's, frankly I'm not sure I believe you and if you are doing so, I'd like to witness the driving style that is required to get these figures. If I got my "stbox", as some people so eloquently put it, to do 30mpg I would be in ban territory, or at least a big fine and shagged brakes. It's a pity someone doesn't invent a cruise control when one sets the desired economy to travel at instead of the forward speed. Then we could all set our cruise' at 30mpg and us "stbox" drivers would be steaming past all the V8's.
Happy to help - if you are local feel free to drop in and experience ittbox", as some people so eloquently put it, to do 30mpg I would be in ban territory, or at least a big fine and shagged brakes. It's a pity someone doesn't invent a cruise control when one sets the desired economy to travel at instead of the forward speed. Then we could all set our cruise' at 30mpg and us "stbox" drivers would be steaming past all the V8's. 99 BMW 740 V8 overall mpg across 5 years of ownership is 27.2 (not trip computer but total mileage and total fuel calculated) On a run at M-way speeds it easily returns better than 30mpg - motorways are s
tty places with speed cameras, congestion, drivers with poor lane control and can't hold a consistant speed. Trying to make progress is just way too stressfull and IMO frankly pointless. Stick some decent tunes in the CD changer, set the AC to a comfortable temperature and just enjoy a smooth (if slightly fiddly) ride and waft along stress free.I will state it's not my only car and driving style depends on car and route/roads but my other big saloon whilst not being a V8 (3.6L six banger with a couple of turbos) will also return similar mpg under the same M-way circumstances. (it will unfortunately do sub 15mpg when driven with some enthusiasm - horses for courses as someone said earlier)
B'stard Child said:
Willy Nilly said:
B'stard Child said:
Willy Nilly said:
Those of you saying you are getting circa 30mpg out of V8's, frankly I'm not sure I believe you and if you are doing so, I'd like to witness the driving style that is required to get these figures. If I got my "stbox", as some people so eloquently put it, to do 30mpg I would be in ban territory, or at least a big fine and shagged brakes. It's a pity someone doesn't invent a cruise control when one sets the desired economy to travel at instead of the forward speed. Then we could all set our cruise' at 30mpg and us "stbox" drivers would be steaming past all the V8's.
Happy to help - if you are local feel free to drop in and experience ittbox", as some people so eloquently put it, to do 30mpg I would be in ban territory, or at least a big fine and shagged brakes. It's a pity someone doesn't invent a cruise control when one sets the desired economy to travel at instead of the forward speed. Then we could all set our cruise' at 30mpg and us "stbox" drivers would be steaming past all the V8's. 99 BMW 740 V8 overall mpg across 5 years of ownership is 27.2 (not trip computer but total mileage and total fuel calculated) On a run at M-way speeds it easily returns better than 30mpg - motorways are s
tty places with speed cameras, congestion, drivers with poor lane control and can't hold a consistant speed. Trying to make progress is just way too stressfull and IMO frankly pointless. Stick some decent tunes in the CD changer, set the AC to a comfortable temperature and just enjoy a smooth (if slightly fiddly) ride and waft along stress free.I will state it's not my only car and driving style depends on car and route/roads but my other big saloon whilst not being a V8 (3.6L six banger with a couple of turbos) will also return similar mpg under the same M-way circumstances. (it will unfortunately do sub 15mpg when driven with some enthusiasm - horses for courses as someone said earlier)
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