Can't find a decent, fast car, practical car

Can't find a decent, fast car, practical car

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torqueofthedevil

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2,082 posts

178 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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There used to be loads of cars I wanted but now nothing seems to tick all the boxes. I'm late 20s budget 10 - 15k for something great. Considered an Evo but service intervals and running costs just seem a bit pointless really, especially when doing 20k a year. Scooby still seems ok as cheaper to run but not sure if the idea is a bit dated now and bad image and prob not as quick as I remember. E46 m3, already have an e46 and the m3 is getting a bit common now. S4's and RS4's massively over priced and abysmal mpg, could say the same for all 4x4's as well. Hot hatches not really the right image and not great for long trips / motorways! 335d's amazing but already have a diesel BM and want something a bit more unique.

I used to browse the classifieds and want everything! Now nothing is jumping out at me. Maybe it's a combination of economic downturn so less to spend / looking out for costs in future, older now so more sensible?!?, putting practicality before fun??? Anyone else found this?

I do want the pace of a faster car but nit at the total expense of other factors. E39? M5 would be great but money pit and dated design!

Jasandjules

69,975 posts

230 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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TVR Chimaera.

You only live once.

chrisispringles

893 posts

166 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Why not do your 20k a year in the diesel BMW and spend your money on a toy of some sort?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Go buy a snotter and a 10 grand toy

FellowPazzini

4,464 posts

172 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Save yourself 5-10k... Mondeo ST.

Dan Friel

3,643 posts

279 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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So you want:

Something unique
Cheap to run
Good mpg
Not a hot hatch
Pace of a scooby
Good on the motorway
Fun to drive

Pass on the answer when you have it..

torqueofthedevil

Original Poster:

2,082 posts

178 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Just out of interest do either of you who suggested it own a second car? I have for the past 18months and I am about to sell it, despite doing a few track days and plenty of motorsporting events I can't justify the cost anymore. At least I have got the use out of it but if was only a "weekend car" I'd never use. The few times I did take it out just seemed a waste of time. Each to their own but I get more enjoyment out of a daily driver which you can drive on normal day to day runs, but when u stumble across a quite b road or late at night and you can have a decent blast. Totally unexpected and unplanned. The act of taking a second car out for a blast just sort of ruins it for me! Appreciate other ppl like it but I think I'd just prefer a decent powerful daily driver.

entropy

5,453 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Skoda Octavia VRS - which is really a much roomier Golf GTI. You can easily get 250 bhp with engine mods

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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torqueofthedevil said:
There used to be loads of cars I wanted but now nothing seems to tick all the boxes. I'm late 20s budget 10 - 15k for something great. Considered an Evo but service intervals and running costs just seem a bit pointless really, especially when doing 20k a year. Scooby still seems ok as cheaper to run but not sure if the idea is a bit dated now and bad image and prob not as quick as I remember. E46 m3, already have an e46 and the m3 is getting a bit common now. S4's and RS4's massively over priced and abysmal mpg, could say the same for all 4x4's as well. Hot hatches not really the right image and not great for long trips / motorways! 335d's amazing but already have a diesel BM and want something a bit more unique.

I used to browse the classifieds and want everything! Now nothing is jumping out at me. Maybe it's a combination of economic downturn so less to spend / looking out for costs in future, older now so more sensible?!?, putting practicality before fun??? Anyone else found this?

I do want the pace of a faster car but nit at the total expense of other factors. E39? M5 would be great but money pit and dated design!
ok, two questions.

1. What is it you need the car to do? ie how many seats, boot, etc, etc.

2. If you want as you've said "unique", not a bad image, not common, not dated and something great. Then are you willing to look at or consider less obvious cars?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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torqueofthedevil said:
Just out of interest do either of you who suggested it own a second car? .
I own a second car

and a third

and fourth

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

158 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Mazda 6 MPS is as near as I can get to your requirements.

Risotto

3,928 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Depends whether you like the v-tec delivery but if you don't want something that only serves as a toy, you may want to consider a DC5 Integra (and some change):



Review here


Or perhaps an FD2 Civic:



Review here



Both cars are rare, stupidly reliable, reasonably quick, good fun, cheap to maintain and practical. Insurance can be a bit steep but not excessively so.

Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 8th June 20:54

Y282

20,566 posts

173 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Risotto said:
Depends whether you like the v-tec delivery but if you don't want something that only serves as a toy, you may want to consider a DC5 Integra (and some change):



Review here

Or perhaps an FD2 Civic:



http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2269...



Both cars are rare, stupidly reliable, reasonably quick, good fun and practical. Insurance can be a bit steep but not excessively so.
i dunno, personally i don't care how fast either of those are. they both look instantly forgettable.

Risotto

3,928 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Y282 said:
Risotto said:
Depends whether you like the v-tec delivery but if you don't want something that only serves as a toy, you may want to consider a DC5 Integra (and some change):



Review here

Or perhaps an FD2 Civic:



http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2269...



Both cars are rare, stupidly reliable, reasonably quick, good fun and practical. Insurance can be a bit steep but not excessively so.
i dunno, personally i don't care how fast either of those are. they both look instantly forgettable.
Neither is insanely rapid, but they are enjoyable to drive and seem to fit the bill - i.e driver orientated cars that are a little out of the ordinary but not too hardcore.

The DC5 is a better looking car in the flesh but I admit the FD2 isn't much of a looker!

Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 8th June 20:52

chrisx666

808 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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torqueofthedevil said:
The few times I did take it out just seemed a waste of time. Each to their own but I get more enjoyment out of a daily driver which you can drive on normal day to day runs, but when u stumble across a quite b road or late at night and you can have a decent blast. Totally unexpected and unplanned. The act of taking a second car out for a blast just sort of ruins it for me! Appreciate other ppl like it but I think I'd just prefer a decent powerful daily driver.
+1, tried the 2nd car thing on and off over the years and decided it was not for me. Running a V8 daily driver was the best all round cost/fun/practicality compromise.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Y282 said:
i dunno, personally i don't care how fast either of those are. they both look instantly forgettable.
Reckon the DC5 is fairly sharp looking, not as good as a DC2 but certainly not looking like a normal hatch.

torqueofthedevil

Original Poster:

2,082 posts

178 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
ok, two questions.

1. What is it you need the car to do? ie how many seats, boot, etc, etc.

2. If you want as you've said "unique", not a bad image, not common, not dated and something great. Then are you willing to look at or consider less obvious cars?
4 seets and a boot needed. Might consider 2 seats. Yeah unusual is ok, no lhd though, nothing too old, nothing so rare that just topping up the washer fluid costs a fortune

Y282

20,566 posts

173 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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drive a 46 m3.

otolith

56,341 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Seems a bit odd to write those two off as looking forgettable and then suggest something as ubiquitous and unremarkable as a BMW 3-series!

PeteSBC

284 posts

174 months

Wednesday 8th June 2011
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Monaro VXR everything you need just a little heavier on fuel but well worth it!