Camping out in my car tonight

Camping out in my car tonight

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davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Can you take a picture of the clamping scum?

giggity

Original Poster:

852 posts

162 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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LCS parking.

If you don't pay we will find out where you live via the DVLA.

We will then take the car from your house and tow it, and crush it.

Shuvi Tupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Has anyone called the local rag yet? hehe

OP, stand your ground, I am sure you will get some support soon. If i were close i would be there yes


amnesia182

486 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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I would wager the money would go straight in his pocket if you pay cash... get him to get another machine.


Taken from http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/t_wheel-clampi... but you might not be able to read a PDF on an iphone (adobe FTW).



Wheel-clamping on private land
This fact sheet is about the rules for wheel-clamping vehicles parked on
private land.
There are different rules for vehicles parked on public roads, which are not
covered here.
Use of licensed wheel-clampers
Wheel-clampers used by private landowners must have a licence from the
Security Industry Authority (SIA). It is a criminal offence for anyone without a
licence to clamp your vehicle. It is also a criminal offence for someone to
employ an unlicensed wheel-clamper, or for a landowner to allow a wheelclamper who they know is unlicensed to operate on their property.
When you pay to have your vehicle released, the wheel-clamper must provide
a receipt which includes the following information:
the place where the vehicle was clamped
their name and signature
their SIA licence number (a 15 digit number on the front of their
licence)
the date.
Licensed wheel-clampers should also wear their SIA licence where you can
see it at all times when they are working. You can check whether someone
has a valid SIA licence by looking on a public register of licences on the SIA
website at www.the-sia.org.uk, or from the SIA call centre on 0844 892 1025.
When can your vehicle be clamped
If you park on private land without the owner's permission, they can legally
clamp your vehicle. However, they can only do this under certain conditions.
Some examples of when your vehicle might be clamped on private land are
when:
you have parked in a car park reserved for customers of a pub and
you are not a customer
you have parked in the car park of a block of flats, where you are not a
resident
you have parked in a car park reserved for employees of a company,
when you are not an employee
you have overstayed in a pay car park
you have failed to display a ticket or permit properly, or at all www.adviceguide.org.uk
you have parked across two spaces instead of one
you have parked dangerously, or blocked an emergency access.
In order for your vehicle to be legally clamped:
there must be notices up where you can clearly see them, warning that
unauthorized vehicles will be clamped
the landowner does not charge more than a reasonable fee to release
your vehicle
your vehicle is released as soon as you have said you will pay the
release fee
there is a way for you to get in touch with the landowner (or their
agent) to make arrangements to pay, for example a telephone number
on the warning notice.
It is a SIA requirement that a landowner must not clamp your vehicle if:
it displays a valid disabled badge
is a marked emergency service vehicle attending an emergency.
What to do if you are clamped
If you are clamped:
keep calm, don't lose your temper or attempt to remove a wheel
clamp - you could be sued for criminal damage if you damage the
wheel-clamp. You could be also prosecuted for theft if you keep the
clamp
contact the telephone number shown and ask for release
check whether warning signs and boundaries are clear enough. You
could also take a photograph to use as evidence later on
ask the wheel-clamper who they work for, whether the landowner's
authority can be produced, and if they have a licence from the SIA.
Ask to see the licence – it is your right as a clamped motorist.
if you don't think a wheel-clamper is licensed, don't pay the release
fee. If they refuse to release your vehicle without a fee, call the police.
An unlicensed wheel-clamper is committing a criminal offence
report unlicensed wheel-clampers to the SIA (see above)
if the wheel-clamper uses threatening or intimidating behaviour, you
should report this to the police
if the wheel-clamper is licensed, you will have to pay the release fee,
but insist on a receipt. Try to get the address and phone number at
which the wheel-clamper can be contacted
if you think you should not have been clamped, for example because
the warning notices were inadequate, or the release fee was too high,
the only way to get your money back may be through the courts. A
solicitor will be able to advise you on what chance you have of
winning your case. www.adviceguide.org.uk
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Registered charity no: 279057 Company no: 1436945 England
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Towing away
It may be necessary to tow away a vehicle parked on private land if it is:
dangerously parked; or
causing an obstruction; or
blocking an emergency access.
If your vehicle is towed away from private land:
look for any notices with contact information for the site owners or
managers
if you are in London and you think your vehicle has been towed away,
you can use the TRACE service to find out where it is (tel 020 7747
4747)
contact the local police station – they should be informed when a
vehicle has been removed (do not dial 999 however!)
you will have to pay to get the vehicle released, but you may want to
get legal advice from a solicitor.
British Parking Association
You can also look on the website of the British Parking Association which acts
as a trade association for companies that carry out parking enforcement
activities on private land. Members of the Association must comply with a
Code of Practice on wheel-clamping and vehicle removal. You can find the
Code of Practice on the website at www.britishparking.co.uk.
Further help
Citizens Advice Bureau
Citizens Advice Bureaux give free, confidential, impartial and independent
advice to help you solve problems. To find your nearest CAB, including those
that give advice by e-mail, click on nearest CAB, or look under C in your
phone book.

Edited by amnesia182 on Thursday 16th June 21:30

giggity

Original Poster:

852 posts

162 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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He has an SIA Licence and said, I would worry at 1am, u can't be kept in your car we have ways of getting you out and taking the car,

Should I be worried. Spread the word

Barletta

10,532 posts

161 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Good luck op

amnesia182

486 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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giggity said:
He has an SIA Licence and said, I would worry at 1am, u can't be kept in your car we have ways of getting you out and taking the car,

Should I be worried. Spread the word
Threatening behaviour - call the old bill ;-)

Mr Happy

5,698 posts

221 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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amnesia182 said:
if the wheel-clamper uses threatening or intimidating behaviour, you
should report this to the police
"we have ways of getting you out of your car" is definitely threatening or intimidating behaviour - call plod, but make sure you get the local rag down there too (or get a call through to a local radio phone in).

MondeoMan1981

2,357 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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If you are a victim of threatening behaviour that is a matter for plod.

Unless you have a baseball bat in your boot.


magpie215

4,404 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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amnesia182 said:
Threatening behaviour - call the old bill ;-)
yes

groomi

9,317 posts

244 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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giggity said:
He has an SIA Licence and said, I would worry at 1am, u can't be kept in your car we have ways of getting you out and taking the car,

Should I be worried. Spread the word
Sounds like threatening behaviour...

Keep enough battery life on your phone for taking videos as evidence.

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

191 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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magpie215 said:
amnesia182 said:
Threatening behaviour - call the old bill ;-)
yes
And wouldn't they back you up especially when you tell them that you have offered to pay?

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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giggity said:
Ig2 6nw eastern avenue 374

He said 60 quid and he will take it off, shall I give in, I live VERY LOCAL TO THE BK PLACE
No, he knows he has no legal basis for clamping you - if he did, he wouldn't have dropped the price by 50% so he could go home, would he?

traffman

2,263 posts

210 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Jeez glad i live in scotland......plod may pop round but hes not actually threatened you ....yet?

We need to send this chap some interesting clamping facts that you can pass onto your clamping buddy.

I hope you have a char ger for your phone/blackberry? Does it have a camera i reckon that would be handy.

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

191 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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giggity said:
Ig2 6nw eastern avenue 374

He said 60 quid and he will take it off, shall I give in, I live VERY LOCAL TO THE BK PLACE
Nope. He's weakening. It won't be long now....

Le Mans Visitor

1,119 posts

203 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Tell the clamper to go and get a proper job!!

spurs-442

2,750 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Good luck OP - as posted above, keep taking videos of him threatening you.

giggity

Original Poster:

852 posts

162 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Yes but old bill said civil matter...

Shall I give 60 and be done with it

Fleckers

2,861 posts

202 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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ring the old bill

you can pay
you will pay

he is refusing to accept payment by company means

he is threatening you

also ring his company and talk about bribes and the idiot

run papers

get mates roundwith videos, not for a row but as witnesses to you saying I want to pay and him saying cash only


sharpfocus

13,812 posts

192 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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giggity said:
He said 60 quid and he will take it off
He's cracking, keep it up.