Camping out in my car tonight
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giggity said:
He has an SIA Licence and said, I would worry at 1am, u can't be kept in your car we have ways of getting you out and taking the car,
Should I be worried. Spread the word
Firstly, get organised. Have some friends who can pop down and keep you company, and allow you to make some toilet breaks, or at least drop you off some 2L coke bottles and a few carrier bags Should I be worried. Spread the word
Secondly, get your phone, set it on record, and record any conversations with the clamper from now on. Specifically your offers to pay, and his declination of that.
Call Plod once you have that info - you've offered to pay him, and he's declined it - they should get involved at this point, if not, ask for a senior officer to get involved! You could offer to send him a cheque, or pay by card.
If he makes any threats against you, such as "we have ways of getting you out" that should be reported to plod also. It could be construed as harassment .
Oh, and call the newsdesk of the local papers
Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 said:
154 Offence of causing intentional harassment, alarm or distress.
In Part I of the M1Public Order Act 1986 (offences relating to public order), after section 4, there shall be inserted the following section—“
4A Intentional harassment, alarm or distress.
(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—
(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.
(2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the person who is harassed, alarmed or distressed is also inside that or another dwelling.
(3)It is a defence for the accused to prove—
(a)that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or
(b)that his conduct was reasonable.
(4)A constable may arrest without warrant anyone he reasonably suspects is committing an offence under this section.
(5)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both.”.
In Part I of the M1Public Order Act 1986 (offences relating to public order), after section 4, there shall be inserted the following section—“
4A Intentional harassment, alarm or distress.
(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—
(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.
(2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the person who is harassed, alarmed or distressed is also inside that or another dwelling.
(3)It is a defence for the accused to prove—
(a)that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or
(b)that his conduct was reasonable.
(4)A constable may arrest without warrant anyone he reasonably suspects is committing an offence under this section.
(5)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both.”.
If I wasn't so far away I'd be on my way, believe me we're all with you in spirit. FFS someone must live within reach! Somebody have a friend in the area?
Call the Police, don't mention clamping, just say you've been threatened, and you request police assistance to prevent a breach of the peace.
Also tell them you're being unlawfully detained, and need to take urgent medication. Don't go into details, just keep repeating these facts and that it's very urgent, and you need asssistance.
Don't give in, you can win this.
Call the Police, don't mention clamping, just say you've been threatened, and you request police assistance to prevent a breach of the peace.
Also tell them you're being unlawfully detained, and need to take urgent medication. Don't go into details, just keep repeating these facts and that it's very urgent, and you need asssistance.
Don't give in, you can win this.
Edited by bozmandb9 on Thursday 16th June 21:49
bozmandb9 said:
Call the Police, don't mention clamping, just say you've been threatened, and you request police assistance to prevent a breach of the peace.
Now that's a mistake. Being misled is not going to get BiB on your side.He's not threatened anything unlawful so far, I don't see any reason for the police to get involved. If they do step in they're more than likely going to try and persuade the OP to get out of the car and make payment - because if the clamper is working within the proper regulations (something police don't actually have any control of) he will be deemed to be acting lawfully, and police involvement will only be to prevent of the peace.
I'm no fan of clampers but I know how these things generally go once police are involved.
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