RE: UK-Spec Chevy Camaro Pricing Announced

[bobberz]

PascalBuyens said:

Hellbound said:

The ZL1 is going to priced under $47k and it'll hit 60 in under 4 secs.

If enough of you put down deposits for the SS, maybe they'll take orders for the ZL1 later on down the line. Sub £45k RRP would be nice too!

Pure speculation that price, it's nowhere near confirmed what the price will be.

I didn't think there was even official confirmation that Chevy were going to build a trim level higher than SS? There have been rumours of an LSA (the 550bhp derivative of the LS9 used in the Cadillac CTS-V) powered Camaro, but only one SEMA concept was built and it was a one-off.

[willisit]

bobberz said:

I didn't think there was even official confirmation that Chevy were going to build a trim level higher than SS? There have been rumours of an LSA (the 550bhp derivative of the LS9 used in the Cadillac CTS-V) powered Camaro, but only one SEMA concept was built and it was a one-off.

There is plenty of official confirmation.. google "ZL-1" please, then come back.

[ronime]

Hellbound said:

Here's hoping Ford do the right thing and bring the next Mustang to the UK...in RHD form.

If AutoExpress have got their facts right then the next 'stang will indeed be available in RHD ...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/...

[VictorMeldrew]

I was in Florida a few weeks ago, and equired about the Camaro at the GM desk in the Epcot centre - at the end of the Test Car ride. I was told the Camaro wasn't available in the UK. They're on the ball then.

Anyways, the "sticker price" over there makes the £34k price here seem a tad inflated, especially as the UK model isn't RHD. As usual, it's pretty much 1:1 pounds for $. If you went for a base model Camaro you can pick one up in the US for the equivalent of about £15k.

[soad]

Do like the look of these - so much presence, and it's a modern muscle car. Should make a good used buy perhaps?

[RadQuinn]

As an American, when I read "UK spec" I figured that meant that they finally made it RHD....and then read "will still be LHD".... ??

[RadQuinn]

willisit said:

There is plenty of official confirmation.. google "ZL-1" please, then come back.

Yup. http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro-zl1/?evar1=eml_chy...

Brilliant looking car, some initial tests have shown that it's faster than the base model Corvette.

[Motorrad]

ronime said:

If AutoExpress have got their facts right then Jesus will return in September this year, bringing back Elvis and Hitler as his bridesmaids

EFA

[Killer2005]

Lovely. I'll have the transformers special edition please

[ringram]

LuS1fer said:

The first year VEL rate is going to be £1000 and the yearly rate thereafter £460.
By contrast, the import will be £215 first year and £215 every year thereafter.

The "saving" soon evaporates.

The 4th gen had to come with a single pipe quiet exhaust too for the EU noise test so hope they don't over-silence this beast too.

Personally I'd still import my own.

Yep, Ill be scanning the classifieds for 2010 imports selling at £20k, though some area already around £23k with V8 I cant see it being economic for the grey importers to continue considering £35k is their list pricing for the most part.

[AdeTuono]

swerni said:

ringram said:

LuS1fer said:

The first year VEL rate is going to be £1000 and the yearly rate thereafter £460.
By contrast, the import will be £215 first year and £215 every year thereafter.

The "saving" soon evaporates.

The 4th gen had to come with a single pipe quiet exhaust too for the EU noise test so hope they don't over-silence this beast too.

Personally I'd still import my own.

Yep, Ill be scanning the classifieds for 2010 imports selling at £20k, though some area already around £23k with V8 I cant see it being economic for the grey importers to continue considering £35k is their list pricing for the most part.

Really?
Where?


Got any links ?

Still got yours Steve? Sounds like it won't be worth selling if they're going to be priced down in the low £20k's. I was contemplating a Z06, but it won't be a hardship to keep hold of the Camaro if second hand prices take a fall.
And anyway, despite what many on here say, a US model should always be worth a little more than a Euro-spec one. Certainly the case with C5 Vettes anyway.

[AdeTuono]

swerni said:

Haven't been able to find what I want.


google 19244103

Think we can get a deal on a pair of them ?

Tempted, although there are a few others offering similar. The Vortec sounds good. Mine's an L99, so may have an issue or two.

Trawling the web found this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv2yFzx9DTk&fea...

17 seconds in

Put that in and I'd never sell it!

[PascalBuyens]

bobberz said:

I didn't think there was even official confirmation that Chevy were going to build a trim level higher than SS? There have been rumours of an LSA (the 550bhp derivative of the LS9 used in the Cadillac CTS-V) powered Camaro, but only one SEMA concept was built and it was a one-off.

Those "rumours" about the ZL1 have been confirmed months ago. They're now even already talking about adapting that car to customer's demand (in good American tradition many potential customers want an automatic)...

As for the "being a one off": there are at least 3 running prototypes already out there...

[bobberz]

PascalBuyens said:

bobberz said:

I didn't think there was even official confirmation that Chevy were going to build a trim level higher than SS? There have been rumours of an LSA (the 550bhp derivative of the LS9 used in the Cadillac CTS-V) powered Camaro, but only one SEMA concept was built and it was a one-off.

Those "rumours" about the ZL1 have been confirmed months ago. They're now even already talking about adapting that car to customer's demand (in good American tradition many potential customers want an automatic)...

As for the "being a one off": there are at least 3 running prototypes already out there...

Thanks, guess I've gotten a bit behind the times. The SEMA car was a one-off, though. IIRC, it had the full-fat LS9 out of the 'Vette ZR1, complete with 638bhp and that stupid plexiglass window revealing... another piece of plastic covering the engine.

I may be wrong, but the 'Maro will have the 550bhp LSA that's in the CTS-V.

Glad they're calling it ZL-1. For a while people were speculating the "super Camaro" would be called Z-28, which was stupid because Z28 was the trim level below SS in the 4th gen.

[eldudereno]

PascalBuyens said:

I said it before, I own 2 RHD cars over here in Belgium, and it doesn't bother me at all... Big fuss about nothing, if you really want a car, you don't care whether it's only RHD or LHD, you just buy it.

Exactly.

The position of the steering wheel is irrelevant. I've been driving my LHD Vette for 4 years now and it really is a piece of cake to do so.

[300bhp/ton]

cazzer said:

Ahem
Alderney (UK)
Anguilla (UK)
Antigua and Barbuda
Australia - Australasia
Bahamas - Caribbean
Bangladesh - South West Asia
Barbados - Caribbean
Bermuda (UK) - Caribbean
Bhutan - South West Asia
Botswana - Southern Africa
Brunei - South East Asia
Cayman Islands (UK)
Christmas Island (Australia)
Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
Cook Islands (New Zealand)
Cyprus - Europe
Dominica - Caribbean
East Timor - South East Asia
Falkland Islands (UK)
Fiji - Pacific
Grenada - Caribbean
Guernsey (UK)
Guyana - South America
Hong Kong - East Asia
India - South West Asia Indonesia - South East Asia
Ireland - Europe
Isle of Man (UK) - Europe
Jamaica - Caribbean
Japan (Okinawa used not to)
Jersey (UK) - Europe
Kenya - East Africa
Kiribati
Lesotho - Southern Africa
Macau
Malawi - East Africa
Malaysia - South East Asia
Maldives - South West Asia
Malta
Mauritius - African coast
Montserrat (UK)
Mozambique - Southern Africa
Namibia (1918) - Southern Africa
Nauru (1918)
Nepal - South West Asia
New Zealand - Australasia
Niue (New Zealand)
Norfolk Island (Australia)
Pakistan - South West Asia
Papua New Guinea - South East Asia Pitcairn Islands (UK)
Saint Helena (UK)
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Seychelles - African coast
Singapore - South East Asia
Solomon Islands
South Africa - Southern Africa
Sri Lanka
Suriname - South America
Swaziland - Southern Africa
Tanzania - East Africa
Thailand - South East Asia
Tokelau (New Zealand)
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago - Caribbean
Turks and Caicos Islands (UK)
Tuvalu
Uganda - East Africa
United Kingdom - Europe
British Virgin Islands (UK)
US Virgin Is. (unlike rest of US)
Zambia - East Africa
Zimbabwe - Southern Africa

Just chosing the UK, Australia, Hong Kong, Japan and New Zealand gives you a target market on 221 million people.

Thats 3/4 of the US population which is the trad market for these cars.

Don't underestimate how many of us drive on the correct side of the road.

Well done a pretty much pointless list there. As almost all of them are not viable markets.

Aus & NZ get the Holden cars with the same V8's in. Selling the Camaro will only knick sales from their own customers for the most part. So would the extra tooling costs and development outweigh the lost revenue from Holden sales? - either way it's a pretty big gamble.

Japan - not really a country know for large displacement, large exterior cars. Not saying there isn't a market, but it likely the wrong culture.

[nouze]

cazzer said:

Ahem
Alderney (UK)
Anguilla (UK)
Antigua and Barbuda
Australia - Australasia
Bahamas - Caribbean
Bangladesh - South West Asia
Barbados - Caribbean
Bermuda (UK) - Caribbean
Bhutan - South West Asia
Botswana - Southern Africa
Brunei - South East Asia
Cayman Islands (UK)
Christmas Island (Australia)
Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
Cook Islands (New Zealand)
Cyprus - Europe
Dominica - Caribbean
East Timor - South East Asia
Falkland Islands (UK)
Fiji - Pacific
Grenada - Caribbean
Guernsey (UK)
Guyana - South America
Hong Kong - East Asia
India - South West Asia Indonesia - South East Asia
Ireland - Europe
Isle of Man (UK) - Europe
Jamaica - Caribbean
Japan (Okinawa used not to)
Jersey (UK) - Europe
Kenya - East Africa
Kiribati
Lesotho - Southern Africa
Macau
Malawi - East Africa
Malaysia - South East Asia
Maldives - South West Asia
Malta
Mauritius - African coast
Montserrat (UK)
Mozambique - Southern Africa
Namibia (1918) - Southern Africa
Nauru (1918)
Nepal - South West Asia
New Zealand - Australasia
Niue (New Zealand)
Norfolk Island (Australia)
Pakistan - South West Asia
Papua New Guinea - South East Asia Pitcairn Islands (UK)
Saint Helena (UK)
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Seychelles - African coast
Singapore - South East Asia
Solomon Islands
South Africa - Southern Africa
Sri Lanka
Suriname - South America
Swaziland - Southern Africa
Tanzania - East Africa
Thailand - South East Asia
Tokelau (New Zealand)
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago - Caribbean
Turks and Caicos Islands (UK)
Tuvalu
Uganda - East Africa
United Kingdom - Europe
British Virgin Islands (UK)
US Virgin Is. (unlike rest of US)
Zambia - East Africa
Zimbabwe - Southern Africa

Just chosing the UK, Australia, Hong Kong, Japan and New Zealand gives you a target market on 221 million people.

Thats 3/4 of the US population which is the trad market for these cars.

Don't underestimate how many of us drive on the correct side of the road.

LOL you need to send this list to GM, they'll no doubt do everything to satisfy this huge market.

[bobberz]

300bhp/ton said:

cazzer said:

Ahem
Alderney (UK)
Anguilla (UK)
Antigua and Barbuda
Australia - Australasia
Bahamas - Caribbean
Bangladesh - South West Asia
Barbados - Caribbean
Bermuda (UK) - Caribbean
Bhutan - South West Asia
Botswana - Southern Africa
Brunei - South East Asia
Cayman Islands (UK)
Christmas Island (Australia)
Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
Cook Islands (New Zealand)
Cyprus - Europe
Dominica - Caribbean
East Timor - South East Asia
Falkland Islands (UK)
Fiji - Pacific
Grenada - Caribbean
Guernsey (UK)
Guyana - South America
Hong Kong - East Asia
India - South West Asia Indonesia - South East Asia
Ireland - Europe
Isle of Man (UK) - Europe
Jamaica - Caribbean
Japan (Okinawa used not to)
Jersey (UK) - Europe
Kenya - East Africa
Kiribati
Lesotho - Southern Africa
Macau
Malawi - East Africa
Malaysia - South East Asia
Maldives - South West Asia
Malta
Mauritius - African coast
Montserrat (UK)
Mozambique - Southern Africa
Namibia (1918) - Southern Africa
Nauru (1918)
Nepal - South West Asia
New Zealand - Australasia
Niue (New Zealand)
Norfolk Island (Australia)
Pakistan - South West Asia
Papua New Guinea - South East Asia Pitcairn Islands (UK)
Saint Helena (UK)
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Seychelles - African coast
Singapore - South East Asia
Solomon Islands
South Africa - Southern Africa
Sri Lanka
Suriname - South America
Swaziland - Southern Africa
Tanzania - East Africa
Thailand - South East Asia
Tokelau (New Zealand)
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago - Caribbean
Turks and Caicos Islands (UK)
Tuvalu
Uganda - East Africa
United Kingdom - Europe
British Virgin Islands (UK)
US Virgin Is. (unlike rest of US)
Zambia - East Africa
Zimbabwe - Southern Africa

Just chosing the UK, Australia, Hong Kong, Japan and New Zealand gives you a target market on 221 million people.

Thats 3/4 of the US population which is the trad market for these cars.

Don't underestimate how many of us drive on the correct side of the road.

Well done a pretty much pointless list there. As almost all of them are not viable markets.

Aus & NZ get the Holden cars with the same V8's in. Selling the Camaro will only knick sales from their own customers for the most part. So would the extra tooling costs and development outweigh the lost revenue from Holden sales? - either way it's a pretty big gamble.

Japan - not really a country know for large displacement, large exterior cars. Not saying there isn't a market, but it likely the wrong culture.

Didn't bother reading through the list when first posted, but now that I have, I'd swear he made some of those up! Where's the country of "Ahem"?

Seriously though, I question if some of those "major markets" even have paved roads!
And isn't Ireland still part of the UK?

I do have to disagree with you, 300bhp/ton, re: Japan. There's a thriving "American car" sub-culture in Japan. Hot rods, muscle cars, and low-riders are big business in Japan with many talented shops catering specifically to those styles. Strangely all of the Chevy Astro vans that used to be sold in America have seemingly ended up in Japan!

I don't think it's the culture, rather it's the extreme regulation on "gas guzzlers" that have been in place since the '70s that keep American muscle off the streets. Generally, only the wealthy or extremely devoted can import these cars to Japan. I'm positive that if Japan had more relaxed regulations, more people would buy muscle cars.

Of course, in the dense urban centers kei cars would still be king due to lack of space/congestion, but cities are never good places for big cars, no matter what country you live in.

[Exar Kun]

Well, you could always pick one up from here in Australia in RHD for a low, low 84,266.95 GBP.

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.a...sid=12F68D6BDD82&__Nne=15&__Qpb=1&seot=1&N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294960894%204294966907&silo=1011

For comparison, our version of the VXR8 goes for about 60,000 GBP.

[jezzaaa]

I own a 2010 Camaro 2SS out here in Abu Dhabi...and it's a great car. Visibility issues aside (it is like sitting in a pill-box) the worst problem about running one in the UK will be the fuel consumption. Certainly as a daily driver, it'll be hideous, and I think the V6 one would probably make more sense. As an occasional weekend car it'll be fun though. I'm pretty sure I'm going to bring mine back home with me when I eventually return. It's not the last word in handling or interior quality, but it's certainly better than the Mustang I had before it, although I gather they've upped their game considerably in that department. And it is a visual event, and get's stared at everywhere I go! Everyone here loves them.

I've registered interest for a ZL1 with the dealer here, but i don't even know if they're going to import it officially here yet. We'll see. Just at the moment, ZL1 aside, there's nothing for the same money that I can really say I'd like to replace it with. The Challenger SRT8 is the slightly meaner looking car...but the interior's dull and the handling/feel, by all accounts is not up to the levels of either Mustang or Camaro.