Shock and Awe penetrant fluid from Halfords

[ukkid35]

ShaunTheSheep said:

(I might be due a woosh parrot here but...) a hot spanner is an oxy acetylene torch!

I shouldn't post at midnight...

[kooky guy]

Why do people expect WD40 to be any good for rusty nuts? It's not a releasing agent. The clue is in the name (Water Displacement...).

[Dog Star]

Cerbieherts said:

This. 50% mix of acetone and ATF in a spray bottle is better than anything I've ever tried. Way cheaper too...

ATF - as in transmission fluid?

[Mr2Mike]

ukkid35 said:

There is a lot of difference between an impact gun and a big spanner. One has rotational forces, the other has a big angular force that almost guarantees a failure.

So what's the difference between a rotational and an angular force?

[McWigglebum4th]

Mr2Mike said:

ukkid35 said:

There is a lot of difference between an impact gun and a big spanner. One has rotational forces, the other has a big angular force that almost guarantees a failure.

So what's the difference between a rotational and an angular force?

I know what he means

A impact gun purely turns along the axis of the thread a fat bloke plus scaffold pole will also impart a force at 90 degrees to the axis of the thread as the socket is turned from the top not the side

[ChemicalChaos]

Cerbieherts said:

NHK244V said:

TBH it depends what you compair it against?
WD40 is ste as a release agent, heat followed by ATF does everything i need, even just ATF is better than WD40 otherwise i use GT85

This. 50% mix of acetone and ATF in a spray bottle is better than anything I've ever tried. Way cheaper too...

I've started making it and selling the odd bottle to frends etc. It's very dependent on the economies of scale though to get a low cost per litre

[Mr2Mike]

McWigglebum4th said:

I know what he means

A impact gun purely turns along the axis of the thread a fat bloke plus scaffold pole will also impart a force at 90 degrees to the axis of the thread as the socket is turned from the top not the side

But the use of a T-bar would exert no tangential force and still wouldn't be as good as an impact gun. The direction of any additional forces has nothing to do with it - it's the repetitive high peak torque of an impact gun that makes them effective.

[ukkid35]

Mr2Mike said:

But the use of a T-bar would exert no tangential force and still wouldn't be as good as an impact gun. The direction of any additional forces has nothing to do with it - it's the repetitive high peak torque of an impact gun that makes them effective.

Agreed, but using an 450Nm impact gun (like the Clarke CEW1000) on an M6 bolt might not be the best idea.

[NickCLotus]

I know this is a very old thread but can accross it while searching to find what is the best penetatring oil.

Unfortunately Halfords no longer sell this, what was wrong with ir, did it just work too well?

[B'stard Child]

NHK244V said:

TBH it depends what you compair it against?
WD40 is ste as a release agent, heat followed by ATF does everything i need, even just ATF is better than WD40 otherwise i use GT85

^ this for me too

[ChemicalChaos]

NickCLotus said:

I know this is a very old thread but can accross it while searching to find what is the best penetatring oil.

Unfortunately Halfords no longer sell this, what was wrong with ir, did it just work too well?

No idea, but the next best aerosol seems to be Kano Kroil, which is expensive but worth the money.
Or as said above, make some acetone/ATF mix (the acetone creeps through gaps, the ATF is incredibly slippery)

[E-bmw]

ChemicalChaos said:

Or as said above, make some acetone/ATF mix (the acetone creeps through gaps, the ATF is incredibly slippery)

This all day every day.

I always have an oil can with a ready mixed supply in it.

Next best thing to the "hot spanner" IMHO.

[Sebring440]

AndyLB said:

Jimmyarm said:

Lube is for pussies !

Or anuses....

Whatever works best for you....

[ukkid35]

I've had good results with Wurth Rost Off Ice

[Belle427]

Plus Gas fast release for me.

[donkmeister]

Plus gas here - you can get it still or sparkling these days. I use a syringe of still from the metal can if I really want to get it somewhere precisely, or fizzy flavour from the aerosol if a drenching is best.