Cyclist posts video of London road rage assault online
Discussion
This has nothing to do with motorists and cyclists. This is about nutters. There are very many nutters on the planet, especially in large cities. The behaviour of the nutters is hugely exacerbated by drink, drugs and a complete lack of fear of being caught or facing meaningful consequences. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
Parrot of Doom said:
So, to all the people who complained that no motorist (or passenger) would stop and get out of the car "for no reason", what do you have to say about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5PqTlvfavM
That, I suspect, was more about the verbal exchange than anything either party did on the road. It's a "you looking at my pint" scenario with a knuckle dragging idiot. I suspect shouting back at him in a crowded bar would result in the same sort of reaction. I have a feeling he might also have misheard "you're on camera".http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5PqTlvfavM
spacegrey335 said:
why did the cyclist slapped the car?....he got what he deserved....don't f
k with other people's car....
Have you ever been riding a bike when someone drives within an inch of you at speed? Have you ever even ridden a bike? I suspect not. k with other people's car....It's like having someone come up and threaten you face to face.. it's equally offensive. That person is basically saying "I don't give a sh!t about you.." - and it's horrid. You're energised from riding, a violent response is what tends to be your kneejerk reaction.
Mr Gear said:
"Don't fk with people's lives" I think is a more important ethos.
Think that's what I was trying to say k with people's lives" I think is a more important ethos.
spacegrey335 said:
surely, he could have find a "better" way of telling the driver to back off a bit...rather than provoking him by slapping the car....
As I say - when you're on a bike and that happens, a violent response tends to be the natural reaction.. hindsight is a wonderful thing. I'm all for not screwing with someones car but really, what kind of damage is a slap going to do it?!I've seen so many cyclists riding dangerously and think that they own the road. I've seen more arrogant cyclists than the typical bmw c*ck, typical boy ricer, white man van, and bus driver.... just my own everyday driving experience.
off topic...
Last week, I was about to turn left ....indicated and checked blind spots etc....saw the cyclist coming....so I DID NOT TURN and waited.....stupid b*tch started waiving and giving me dirty looks!....should have just turned into the road and make her brake....or fell off her silly bike!
off topic...
Last week, I was about to turn left ....indicated and checked blind spots etc....saw the cyclist coming....so I DID NOT TURN and waited.....stupid b*tch started waiving and giving me dirty looks!....should have just turned into the road and make her brake....or fell off her silly bike!
spacegrey335 said:
I've seen so many cyclists riding dangerously and think that they own the road. I've seen more arrogant cyclists than the typical bmw c*ck, typical boy ricer, white man van, and bus driver.... just my own everyday driving experience.
off topic...
Last week, I was about to turn left ....indicated and checked blind spots etc....saw the cyclist coming....so I DID NOT TURN and waited.....stupid b*tch started waiving and giving me dirty looks!....should have just turned into the road and make her brake....or fell off her silly bike!
Keep fishing, you will get a bit soon.off topic...
Last week, I was about to turn left ....indicated and checked blind spots etc....saw the cyclist coming....so I DID NOT TURN and waited.....stupid b*tch started waiving and giving me dirty looks!....should have just turned into the road and make her brake....or fell off her silly bike!
I saw this clip a while ago, ive seen a slightly longer version of it as it shows the cyclist first slowing down as the car stops. I dont think it was a road rage incident tbh, it looks like something had gone on before hand and i think im right in saying the Peugeot 407 was stolen on that day, presumably by the chap in question. It looks pre-planned, pre meditated as though the driver specifically wanted to clout that person, for what reason i dont know but i very much doubt it was a simple road rage incident. Unfortunatley, despite not being given the full story and only seeing the bit of the video the cyclist wanted us to see (i'd like to see the full video of his trip to see if something happened earlier between the two) the more anti-car cyclists will use this to suggest all motorists steal a car, stop at a junction to punch a cyclist. When i dont think his mode of transport had much to do with it at all really.
Not sure though, like i say we've only been given half the story. I think this clip first hit the internet when the Police hit a dead end, presumably on who the man was.
Not sure though, like i say we've only been given half the story. I think this clip first hit the internet when the Police hit a dead end, presumably on who the man was.
martin84 said:
I saw this clip a while ago, ive seen a slightly longer version of it as it shows the cyclist first slowing down as the car stops. I dont think it was a road rage incident tbh, it looks like something had gone on before hand and i think im right in saying the Peugeot 407 was stolen on that day, presumably by the chap in question. It looks pre-planned, pre meditated as though the driver specifically wanted to clout that person, for what reason i dont know but i very much doubt it was a simple road rage incident. Unfortunatley, despite not being given the full story and only seeing the bit of the video the cyclist wanted us to see (i'd like to see the full video of his trip to see if something happened earlier between the two) the more anti-car cyclists will use this to suggest all motorists steal a car, stop at a junction to punch a cyclist. When i dont think his mode of transport had much to do with it at all really.
Not sure though, like i say we've only been given half the story. I think this clip first hit the internet when the Police hit a dead end, presumably on who the man was.
The story is out there. The video is complete. What you see is what there is. The driver was arrested. Case closed.Not sure though, like i say we've only been given half the story. I think this clip first hit the internet when the Police hit a dead end, presumably on who the man was.
Ive gone back a few pages and found the Daily Mail story about it. So it was a somewhat simple road rage incident, i thought it'd be more than that as the mans reaction was, shall we say over the top. Im not particularly pro or anti cyclist, the only thing which annoys me with some cyclists, if not most is they feel they have the right to pick and choose which laws they'll abide by. Its in the highway code that they must abide by all traffic signals, lights and signs, and penalties for not doing so are presumably the same for if a motorist runs a red light. However cycling groups say its ok to run a red light because 'getting up to speed again is difficult' and 'cyclists dont cause all the road deaths'. As true as both counts are thats no justification for breaking the law. And they accuse motorists of a road hogging attitude, yet cyclists frequently feel the need to smack someones car for them driving into 'their' bit of road, now i try and give them as much room as possible but some of our roads just werent built to have two lanes of cars and bicycles on them and sometimes everybody has to squeeze up, i dont lean over, open my passenger door to knock their bicycle yet they have a very 'im going to smack your car because its all me me me me me me me' attitude.
Not all, i admit, but i was driving through a town a few months ago and a cyclist in front riding perfectly normally, i waited for no oncoming traffic and went round him giving him at least 6 yards of room, i couldve opened the passenger door and still missed him, yet he felt the need to shout an obscenity at me as i drove past. Why? What did i do? Unfortunatley such attitudes from cyclists are too common as they seem to believe we're all out to get them and they need to defend themselves against things that dont even happen. I was probably copping his grief for another motorist causing him trouble earlier.
Cyclists who ride in accordance with the highway code i have no problem with, its the ones who bleat about being a 'vulnerable road user' one minute, and use the pavement when we come to a red light, obviously they dont want to be a road user anymore. Its the ones who advocate breaking the law because riding in accordance with the rules is not convenient to them, if you cant do it properly then dont ride, quite simple. And the attitude of a cyclist smacking someones car being perfectly acceptable is nonsense. Its vandalism, no if, no but, end of.
Im not condoning the actions of the driver at all but as theres been a lengthy discussion in here about relationship between cyclist and motorist i thought i'd add my two pence. If i bored anybody i apologise.
Not all, i admit, but i was driving through a town a few months ago and a cyclist in front riding perfectly normally, i waited for no oncoming traffic and went round him giving him at least 6 yards of room, i couldve opened the passenger door and still missed him, yet he felt the need to shout an obscenity at me as i drove past. Why? What did i do? Unfortunatley such attitudes from cyclists are too common as they seem to believe we're all out to get them and they need to defend themselves against things that dont even happen. I was probably copping his grief for another motorist causing him trouble earlier.
Cyclists who ride in accordance with the highway code i have no problem with, its the ones who bleat about being a 'vulnerable road user' one minute, and use the pavement when we come to a red light, obviously they dont want to be a road user anymore. Its the ones who advocate breaking the law because riding in accordance with the rules is not convenient to them, if you cant do it properly then dont ride, quite simple. And the attitude of a cyclist smacking someones car being perfectly acceptable is nonsense. Its vandalism, no if, no but, end of.
Im not condoning the actions of the driver at all but as theres been a lengthy discussion in here about relationship between cyclist and motorist i thought i'd add my two pence. If i bored anybody i apologise.
Chicane-UK said:
spacegrey335 said:
surely, he could have find a "better" way of telling the driver to back off a bit...rather than provoking him by slapping the car....
As I say - when you're on a bike and that happens, a violent response tends to be the natural reaction.. hindsight is a wonderful thing. I'm all for not screwing with someones car but really, what kind of damage is a slap going to do it?!BIANCO said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-sIl0lNYfs
Just found this video and it reminded me of this topic, its idiot riders like this guy that needs punching.
That's bizarre. In the first clip, that car clearly makes and error, but it is clear about 30 yards away that the car is coming out, the bike seems to make absolutely no attempt to slow, stop and hardly even deviates left! He's going too fast for that scenario, one that can happen (and does) to bikes and cars every single day the world over! Cant help thinking I would have seen that happening a good while earlier and been able to avoid any sort of interaction. Just found this video and it reminded me of this topic, its idiot riders like this guy that needs punching.
The bit where he kicks the car reversing is ridiculous. The car is reversing, and he just rides right into it! He could have gone 5 yards wider and been nowhere need it, or better still, just slow done or stop!
I dont think this lad has much gump on the road. When he gets some motorised transport, he'll be a nightmare.
Not sure if this has come up, but it's worth noting the negative effects of having a camera. You can find yourself (consciously or otherwise) getting into more trouble for the benefit of the video, and you may get more involved in inflating a situation knowing that you have 'proof', rather than being left with nothing so letting it go.
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