Great then, carp now

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thinfourth2

Original Poster:

32,414 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Consider the BMW M3 E30 and imagine the outcry on here is BMW released it today.

A crappy little 4pot with just over 200Bhp, a terrible 5 speed box, a slow 0-60, no crash protection and zero toys.

It would be slated

So what other great cars would the pub bores hate if they were made today

vixen1700

23,100 posts

271 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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confused

sticks090460

1,079 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Anything named after a fish.

Fume troll

4,389 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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All of them, I'd guess. They'd either look bad or be bad.

Cheers,

FT.

stumpage

2,112 posts

227 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Good cars that are no longer any good. All sounds a bit fishy to me.

getmecoat

thinfourth2

Original Poster:

32,414 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Well is crap an acceptable word in the title?

Mods please make me crap

LuS1fer

41,154 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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There was no outcry as relative to its peers, it was a great car.

I don't understand the premise. If a 1951 Beetle was released today it would be slated for its noise, interior, braking, safety, handling...

A Mk III Cortina would be slated for having vinyl seats, a rough engine, sloppy handling, terrible instruments, shocking safety...

vixen1700

23,100 posts

271 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Mods please make me crap


smile

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

167 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Surely any car from the mid to late 80's would be pretty 'carp' if it was released today. And out of that bunch of drivel, the E30 M3 would be one of the better ones.

The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.

Fume troll

4,389 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Turning it round: could you think of a car that wouldn't be slated if it came out now?

MX-5 actually springs to mind.
LR Defender
McLaren F1

...

Cheers,

FT.


KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

176 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Well is crap an acceptable word in the title?

Mods please make me crap
Oh dear Cod, not this again........hehe

aka_kerrly

12,423 posts

211 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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I don't think there are any cars that were great when they were new that aren't great now if you consider them in the context of what was available at the time and what a similar amount of money would get you today.

Suggesting that the E30 M3 is now a rubbish car because eg a large number of new cars are significantly faster is missing the point entirely. I always tend to think that the people who slate a M3 based on it's 0-60 time or other largely irrelevant measure of it's performance have clearly never driven one or if they have perhaps don't have the required skills to extract the potential performance from such a vehicle.

Are people seriously suggesting that with every new generation of a car manufactures release it becomes better and better.... SO SO WRONG!

dave

Matt UK

17,754 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Standards are slipping around this plaice...

LuS1fer

41,154 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Didn't EVO do am M-car test relatively recently and the E30 M3 still came top?

Matt UK

17,754 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Fume troll said:
Turning it round: could you think of a car that wouldn't be slated if it came out now?

MX-5 actually springs to mind.
LR Defender
McLaren F1

...

Cheers,

FT.
Ford Puma

Original Lotus Elise

TonyRPH

12,991 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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mnkiboy said:
Surely any car from the mid to late 80's would be pretty 'carp' if it was released today. And out of that bunch of drivel, the E30 M3 would be one of the better ones.

The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.
I see what you did there smile

alsem

580 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Cars named after a fish, I throw up Playmouth Barracuda:


If you know a car named after a bird you could use this topic:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Negative Creep

25,007 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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Well if any older car were released today it would be called a deathtrap for not having 10 airbags, dangerous for not having brakes that make you headbutt the window as soon as you brush them and poor build quality because the dials don't light up blue

stewjohnst

2,443 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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TonyRPH said:
mnkiboy said:
Surely any car from the mid to late 80's would be pretty 'carp' if it was released today. And out of that bunch of drivel, the E30 M3 would be one of the better ones.

The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.
I see what you did there smile
Nowadays the performance of a stock E30 M3 wouldn't be that much to 'trout' about...

getmecoat


attym3

7,259 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st July 2011
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For cods hake, is it the same OP as the other day.....eel never learn.

Mark