Great then, carp now
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Consider the BMW M3 E30 and imagine the outcry on here is BMW released it today.
A crappy little 4pot with just over 200Bhp, a terrible 5 speed box, a slow 0-60, no crash protection and zero toys.
It would be slated
So what other great cars would the pub bores hate if they were made today
A crappy little 4pot with just over 200Bhp, a terrible 5 speed box, a slow 0-60, no crash protection and zero toys.
It would be slated
So what other great cars would the pub bores hate if they were made today
There was no outcry as relative to its peers, it was a great car.
I don't understand the premise. If a 1951 Beetle was released today it would be slated for its noise, interior, braking, safety, handling...
A Mk III Cortina would be slated for having vinyl seats, a rough engine, sloppy handling, terrible instruments, shocking safety...
I don't understand the premise. If a 1951 Beetle was released today it would be slated for its noise, interior, braking, safety, handling...
A Mk III Cortina would be slated for having vinyl seats, a rough engine, sloppy handling, terrible instruments, shocking safety...
Surely any car from the mid to late 80's would be pretty 'carp' if it was released today. And out of that bunch of drivel, the E30 M3 would be one of the better ones.
The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.
The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.
I don't think there are any cars that were great when they were new that aren't great now if you consider them in the context of what was available at the time and what a similar amount of money would get you today.
Suggesting that the E30 M3 is now a rubbish car because eg a large number of new cars are significantly faster is missing the point entirely. I always tend to think that the people who slate a M3 based on it's 0-60 time or other largely irrelevant measure of it's performance have clearly never driven one or if they have perhaps don't have the required skills to extract the potential performance from such a vehicle.
Are people seriously suggesting that with every new generation of a car manufactures release it becomes better and better.... SO SO WRONG!
dave
Suggesting that the E30 M3 is now a rubbish car because eg a large number of new cars are significantly faster is missing the point entirely. I always tend to think that the people who slate a M3 based on it's 0-60 time or other largely irrelevant measure of it's performance have clearly never driven one or if they have perhaps don't have the required skills to extract the potential performance from such a vehicle.
Are people seriously suggesting that with every new generation of a car manufactures release it becomes better and better.... SO SO WRONG!
dave
mnkiboy said:
Surely any car from the mid to late 80's would be pretty 'carp' if it was released today. And out of that bunch of drivel, the E30 M3 would be one of the better ones.
The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.
I see what you did there The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.
Cars named after a fish, I throw up Playmouth Barracuda:
If you know a car named after a bird you could use this topic:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
If you know a car named after a bird you could use this topic:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
TonyRPH said:
mnkiboy said:
Surely any car from the mid to late 80's would be pretty 'carp' if it was released today. And out of that bunch of drivel, the E30 M3 would be one of the better ones.
The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.
I see what you did there The 0-60 on the M3 isn't too bad compared to todays cars. In fact, you could make it even faster if you could find a BMW tuna to extract more power.
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