Porsche Panamera Diesel

[y2blade]

http://m.whatcar.com/car-news/porsche-panamera-die...



Diesel version of Porsche's hatchback
248bhp V6 engine
On sale now, at £62,134



What is it? A diesel version of Porsche's 'gran turismo'. As luxurious as any other Panamera, but aimed at those with one eye on running costs.

What's it like to drive?
The Panamera Diesel uses a version of the 3.0-litre V6 diesel engine that's also in various Audi models. Changes to the intake and exhaust systems have freed up a fraction more power, but a 248bhp output makes it the least powerful Panamera; 48bhp short of the V6 petrol. The diesel V6 is 120kg heavier than its petrol counterpart, too, but it has an extra 111lb ft of torque.

An eight-speed automatic gearbox is standard, as is rear-wheel drive. Packaging issues mean that four-wheel drive is not an option for the diesel.

Porsche admits that efficiency - not outright speed - is key to the Panamera Diesel's appeal. Just as well, because it's the slowest version, albeit by only half a second from 0-62mph compared with the V6 petrol. By most other standards, it's swift, and the wealth of torque at low revs makes it usefully flexible.

Extra soundproofing is designed to make the diesel as quiet as a petrol Panamera. It works, up to a point. Overall refinement is excellent and any engine noise is at a very low level. Nonetheless, there's a muted rumble that never lets you quite forget it's a diesel.

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fantastic

[kambites]

The ugliest car on the market no longer even has the excuse of being fast.

[thinfourth2]

EVO thinks its the best diesel car in the world

[v8will]

I wonder does it feel undernourished compared to the big BMW and Merc diesels?

[Tonberry]

Needs more power.

On a side note, saw two of these (petrol versions) in convoy today. The occupants of each car obviously knew each other. Odd, though possibly just rentals.

[joebongo]

Porsche have now completely jumped the shark with this; although the Cayenne was arguably when they first lost credibility as a fast car producer.

Let's have a minute's silence for another marque who has fallen into bland mediocrity in pursuit of corporate profit.

[y2blade]

Tonberry said:

Needs more power.

not really an issue
most Diesels get re-mapped as soon as the owners got hold of them anyway?

[anonymous-user]

I've seen a few of the petrol ones about. Look kind of cool in a ' I'm rich & dont care what I look like ' way...

[maxxy5]

Seen a few of these around lately, I think they look pretty good. Well, not pretty, but at least they're a bit different. Seem like overkill for British roads but who cares.

[johnpeat]

thinfourth2 said:

EVO thinks its the best diesel car in the world

Did Chris Harris come to that conclusion after he'd initially dismissed it as boring or a 'shed' or something like that(*)

(*) after the reminder came from Stuttgart as to who he really works for...

[Tonberry]

y2blade said:

Tonberry said:

Needs more power.

not really an issue
most Diesels get re-mapped as soon as the owners got hold of them anyway?

You or I would remap one but the stereotypical owner of this type of car will not.

[y2blade]

Tonberry said:

y2blade said:

Tonberry said:

Needs more power.

not really an issue
most Diesels get re-mapped as soon as the owners got hold of them anyway?

You or I would remap one but the stereotypical owner of this type of car will not.

in that case the lack of power won't matter to them then

[RobCrezz]

Bet it won't be long before the audi v8 diesel will be an option also.

[CarBuff33]

RobCrezz said:

Bet it won't be long before the audi v8 diesel will be an option also.

I seem to remember that VW offered a V8 diesel with the Tuareg?

I wonder who buys these cars anyway? I'm thinking that anyone that has money for the Panamera can afford the cost of petrol.

Edit: even V10 diesel exists: http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2610...

[Tonberry]

y2blade said:

in that case the lack of power won't matter to them then

250bhp is not enough to be storming Autobahns with! Another 50 horses and it would be dandy

[300bhp/ton]

Tonberry said:

Needs more power.

Don't VAG have both a 5.0 litre V10 Tdi and a 4.2 V8 Tdi they could have let Porsche use. The latter packs 300+hp

[davepoth]

Porsche don't want the fastest accelerating car they sell to be a diesel. Which would be the case if they used the really big diesel engines.

So let me understand this. It's £60k for a really big and ugly hatchback that isn't really that fast, and is too wide to drive anywhere?

[Olivera]

0-60 in 6.8 seconds, so roughly the same as a Polo GTI.

[ClintonB]

RobCrezz said:

Bet it won't be long before the audi v8 diesel will be an option also.

Would take the A8 4.2 TDi all day long. At this kind of price point, the A8 and something a little more frisky for the weekend would make plenty of sense.

[mybrainhurts]

Ugliest heap ever.