RE: PH Carpool: Porsche 997 GT3 RS

RE: PH Carpool: Porsche 997 GT3 RS

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Zed Ed

1,109 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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lovely car

trips through France and Belgium in lovely carcloud9

4 seals thougheek

Digga

40,349 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Guvernator said:
To be honest I didn't think those costs were too OTT considering the use on track. Try running any other exotic car on track and those costs will look positively tame in comparison.
Depends what you;re used to tracking I guess. They are mahoosive tyres and hugely powerful brakes, but I'd still say the costs are eyewatering.

Guvernator said:
I was however more concerned about all the other issues they seemed to have with the car. I thought the GT version of the 911 engine was supposed to be bombproof ...
I did, until a few weeks back. Since then the same sort of issues have been noted in a number of places. rolleyes

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

219 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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I've run three 996 GT3's (one RS) for a total of probably 22k miles and none of them have ever dropped any oil?

Digga

40,349 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Oddball RS said:
I've run three 996 GT3's (one RS) for a total of probably 22k miles and none of them have ever dropped any oil?
That's the thing, they certainly don;t all do it. Not early doors anyway.

Some do though. First 997 GT3 I ever saw was owned by a guy who runs a business near mine. His had a new engine withinh 6 months. There's quite a few stories on forums and a number - see the classifieds -of cars for sale now declare they've had a new lump.

Sad really.

tomvcarter

1,091 posts

194 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Digga said:
That's the thing, they certainly don;t all do it. Not early doors anyway.

Some do though. First 997 GT3 I ever saw was owned by a guy who runs a business near mine. His had a new engine withinh 6 months. There's quite a few stories on forums and a number - see the classifieds -of cars for sale now declare they've had a new lump.

Sad really.
So should i not buy one....?

djon

409 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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GFWilliams said:
I think the best think the best thing about the car is the colour:
Are you a girl or what? This is PH, man up! smile


k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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I can't believe 911s still leak. Ridiculous!

Guvernator

13,163 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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tomvcarter said:
Digga said:
That's the thing, they certainly don;t all do it. Not early doors anyway.

Some do though. First 997 GT3 I ever saw was owned by a guy who runs a business near mine. His had a new engine withinh 6 months. There's quite a few stories on forums and a number - see the classifieds -of cars for sale now declare they've had a new lump.

Sad really.
So should i not buy one....?
Makes for worrying reading doesn't it as I was always under the impression that a 911 of the GT variety was one of the more reliable track toys avaiable? The standard 911 engines RMS issues are well documented but from what I have read on many an occaiosn the Turbo and GT engines never suffered from the same issues as they were bases on a different block?

nonuts

15,855 posts

230 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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It's not the failures as such, but the number of failures within the period of the article is shocking, really shocking. I too previously had the understanding that the common oil seal issues were not going to happen on the Turbo / GT cars, guess that's not the case.

Digga

40,349 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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tomvcarter said:
So should i not buy one....?
I'm not an authority and can't claim any inside knowledge. Neither am I currently an owner, buyer or seller though, so I have no axe to grind.

Buy if you want, but perhaps with eyes open and a decent warranty; either OPC or reputable independant specialist. Trawl the net for more on this.

MB 1

525 posts

186 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Nice cans!

MB 1

525 posts

186 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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RDMcG said:
RMS failures occur but they are not epidemic. Disuse is a big part of it. I have an RS.1 and and RS.2 and they are both driven regularly. So far, no problems. A more scary issue is the tendency for them to dump al their coolant on the track with catastrophic results. We have had a number for those and I am having my RS.2 modified (have to drop engine and do a weld ) to avoid this particular issue. They are sensational fun to drive and I use mine both on road and track.
I agree on the RMS. Mine had a minor leak when I bought it, but has gone now i've started using the car.

slarnge

364 posts

192 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Great photos,and write up.Thats the colour to have !! smile

Candellara

1,876 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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XTR2Turbo said:
Nice looking car but reading that this car has had 4 seals seems to confirm what many Porsche enthusiasts want to deny. My brother's 997 GT3 has had 2 and the engine split to deal with crankcase leaks. The dealer blamed his problems on not using the car enough. Can't say that applies here.

Is there a 997 GT3 that has not had these problems? I find it astonishing that Porsche have not been able to sort this.
My RS (done 13k miles) has never had any seals in it's life and was in at OPC just a few weeks ago for it's 4 year major. Dry as a bone underneath so i don't know why it plagues some cars and not others?

Candellara

1,876 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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as for running costs, they're quite cheap to run (if you've ever owned Ferrari's or Lambo's you'll know what i mean)

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

192 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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I'll have one in green please.

mentaldental

28 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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WMP said:
Nice work if you can get it.
We like cars, so that's where some of our money goes. each time i get in the RS it is like taking a break. Very therapeutic!

mentaldental

28 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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GFWilliams said:
hmm, I recognise those photos tongue out
Well three are ones you took.Good work!




PS can't get a handle on multiquote on here, so expect loads of separate replies!

mentaldental

28 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Lets Torque said:
Hi,

That first photo is stunning. thumbup

I really like these , well I like any (997) 911 but I loved these since Hammond took one across Europe in Top Gear. Orange is the best colour aswell IMO.

Great Car! smile
Thanks! We have a large print of the first photo up on a wall; does look good!

mentaldental

28 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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Owlwood said:
Great read, and great car. Wish my other half was as into touring Europe for good racing spots!
Does mean I'm allowed to spend money on cars......but then i have to share them!