RE: PH Carpool: De Tomaso Pantera GT5S
Discussion
fun4all said:
I drove one of these and can confirm it is a pig at low speeds - also the one I drove I could not adjust the seat so with my little legs (5' 9) and his not so little legs (6' 5") I struggled to reach the bottom of the clutch! Sounded great though! As I remember the reg plate was 4X
I'd never put a Pantera with someone that promotes an "escort" agency.......such is life....
The owner of our local chinese restaurant has one of these tucked away in his garage. A few years ago on christmas eve we booked out the whole restaurant, after far too much to drink i was chatting to the owner of the restaurant who also had too much to drink, the conversation got on to cars when he claimed in broken english to have a De Tomaso in the garage at the resaurant, i didnt believe him until he dragged me out side and opened the garage door to reveal the gleeming red Pantera with delivery miles. He then proceeded to drag everyone out from the restaurant to whitness the beast being started up.........obviously it hadnt been started for ages, he managed to get going and proceeded to wake all the local residents with the sound of Detroits finest V8's being redlined by a crazy chinese chap!!!!! it really made my christmas, but no one else seemed that fussed!!
It's a shame the PH-ometer doesn't go to 11. And the noise! I'm trying to track down the video clip I took of this car idling a couple of years back, it really is the best engine note ever...
And a big thumbs up to Kurzew for the great photos!
And a big thumbs up to Kurzew for the great photos!
Edited by vdubbin on Wednesday 31st August 14:38
Beautiful car and thanks for sharing (well, a bit!)...
I remember seeing one of these on a TV program yonks ago - might have been The Cuckoo Waltz? with plate GAV1N which was the name of the character in the show - have loved them from that day on.
Would LOVE to hear it! Any chance of attaching sound files for such occasions???
I remember seeing one of these on a TV program yonks ago - might have been The Cuckoo Waltz? with plate GAV1N which was the name of the character in the show - have loved them from that day on.
Would LOVE to hear it! Any chance of attaching sound files for such occasions???
Junkman said:
The 351M400 6.6 Litre Windsor engine is significantly different from the 351 Cleveland, not merely the same engine built in a different factory and certainly not a derivative of it. Neither of them was ever cast in aluminium, but the Windsor engine employs thinwall casting technology and is hence lighter, but significantly less rigid, than the Cleveland engine.
351M or 400M is in the 335 family of Cleveland engines, not windsor. The M series engines were ignored by tuners until very recently, and a 351C is still preferred over them.Edited by Junkman on Wednesday 31st August 13:03
But the tuners favourite (and Pantera OE engine) was the 351C, which is reasonably easily tuned at std bore/stroke to 400hp and revving beyond 6500 rpm! Raed any Dan Jones article and weep! The Windsor engines, can be built with an ally aftermarket block which I suspect this is a fine example. Most Windsors respond well to a stroke job, again i suspect this is the case here.
Windsors and Clevelands share block spacing, but fromt here on things differ, Cleveland has canted large valves (Windsor has inline valves) different firing order to the Cleveland etc etc
For a period it was popular to put a cleveland head on a windsor (fair amount of work involved) and create a 'clevor' but the development of very good aftermarket Windsor heads make this less common now.
Great car, proper mix of European looks and chassis with yank muscle!!!
vdubbin said:
It's a shame the PH-ometer doesn't go to 11. And the noise! I'm trying to track down the video clip I took of this car idling a couple of years back, it really is the best engine note ever...
And a big thumbs up to Kurzew for the great photos!
I remember that day well. Standing about 100 feet away when the ground shook, the air shook, and all conversation in the carpark stopped.And a big thumbs up to Kurzew for the great photos!
Edited by vdubbin on Wednesday 31st August 14:38
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