RE: New 4.0 V8 for Audi S6, S8 and S7 Sportback
Discussion
F1GTRUeno said:
thewheelman said:
The S7 looks spot on on for a large hatchback/coupe.
There's a bright white one around here, parked with the rear facing towards the road. The rear is truly an awful thing to behold.I know it's an exceptionally large car anyway but it certainly looks much too big as well (though the colour could be part of it).
Not a nice car, and utterly pointless too.
ge0rge said:
The whole cylinder deactivation thing is nothing new, not sure why the germans have only just cottoned onto it. A Chevvy in Canada two years ago i drove that was a v6 did the deactivation lark and we got some 35 mph out of a 3.5 litre engine. Quite impressive really.
Freudian slip?The new engines hardly make Audis any more exciting than before 
Plus the antiphase noise reduction system is Audi once again artificially messing around with the sound their cars make (or what you hear anyway). I can understand such a feature in high end saloons (less noise, more comfort, win all round), but those aspiring to sporty credentials surely should let the driver hear and experience the engine first hand. Does it really sound that bad that they need to shut it up?
I miss the good old days when engines made sounds that weren't tweaked with active baffles, fuel sprays and now active cancellation of certain frequencies. I think its yet more distance put between the driver and the machine/road. Its not always about how fast you go but it IS always about the feeling and experience of driving, and I don't think recent Audis really get that (except the R8, which is proper-wheel drive. Shame because they look great. Bad Audi.
And is it just me, or is it getting harder and harder to tell the difference between the 3 German big boys?
Plus the antiphase noise reduction system is Audi once again artificially messing around with the sound their cars make (or what you hear anyway). I can understand such a feature in high end saloons (less noise, more comfort, win all round), but those aspiring to sporty credentials surely should let the driver hear and experience the engine first hand. Does it really sound that bad that they need to shut it up? I miss the good old days when engines made sounds that weren't tweaked with active baffles, fuel sprays and now active cancellation of certain frequencies. I think its yet more distance put between the driver and the machine/road. Its not always about how fast you go but it IS always about the feeling and experience of driving, and I don't think recent Audis really get that (except the R8, which is proper-wheel drive. Shame because they look great. Bad Audi.
And is it just me, or is it getting harder and harder to tell the difference between the 3 German big boys?
F1GTRUeno said:
There's a bright white one around here, parked with the rear facing towards the road. The rear is truly an awful thing to behold.
I know it's an exceptionally large car anyway but it certainly looks much too big as well (though the colour could be part of it).
Not a nice car, and utterly pointless too.
I really like the A7 to me it looks low, wide and sleek, I followed one the other day and really liked the looks. To me it moves away from the bloated designs we have seen of late. I know it's an exceptionally large car anyway but it certainly looks much too big as well (though the colour could be part of it).
Not a nice car, and utterly pointless too.
All IMHO.
Really enjoyed driving a 2010 S8 for a week last year but I did feel slightly guilty lugging all that metal around with just me in it!
V10 was sweet though and could have definitely got used to it - but i wouldn't hanker after that particular engine just for the sake of it being 10 cyl
A TT V8 will do just fine for a luxo barge, you couldn't really hear the V10 inside the car anyway
V10 was sweet though and could have definitely got used to it - but i wouldn't hanker after that particular engine just for the sake of it being 10 cyl
A TT V8 will do just fine for a luxo barge, you couldn't really hear the V10 inside the car anyway
thewheelman said:
Well opinions will vary. But compare it aesthetically to the 5 series GT, then the Audi becomes a very attractive option for those that want a large hatchback.
Every time I see one of those, a tiny bit of my brain (and we're talking fractions of a very small entity here) thinks "Christ, that must have been some rear-end shunt, from a fast-moving, heavily-laden HGV to do that to a 5 series saloon".Wills2 said:
F1GTRUeno said:
There's a bright white one around here, parked with the rear facing towards the road. The rear is truly an awful thing to behold.
I know it's an exceptionally large car anyway but it certainly looks much too big as well (though the colour could be part of it).
Not a nice car, and utterly pointless too.
I really like the A7 to me it looks low, wide and sleek, I followed one the other day and really liked the looks. To me it moves away from the bloated designs we have seen of late. I know it's an exceptionally large car anyway but it certainly looks much too big as well (though the colour could be part of it).
Not a nice car, and utterly pointless too.
All IMHO.
Bolognese said:
Schnellmann said:
Another 400-500 bhp super saloon from Audi/Merc/BMW......am I the only one getting a bit bored with these mega saloons with virtually identical power and performance figures?
I thought this was pistonheads? 
Not sure a huge blown engine in a massive german barge is really that in keeping with the Pistonheads ethos tbh. Each to their own though.
Splitting up with my wife earlier this year stopped me getting an S6 that I had test driven and put a deposit on.
Part of the attraction of the car is the outrageousness of the engine. No one needs a 5.2 litre V10 but the grunt and the sound are something you could never tire of.
Had the same car still been available, I would have it now. Now the b
h is gone, I am once again close to scratching my V10 itch.
Part of the attraction of the car is the outrageousness of the engine. No one needs a 5.2 litre V10 but the grunt and the sound are something you could never tire of.
Had the same car still been available, I would have it now. Now the b
h is gone, I am once again close to scratching my V10 itch. Otispunkmeyer said:
Mr Whippy said:
I wonder how much fuel is *actually* saved turning the extra cylinders off...
Would be cool to have some people on normal driving cycles try with/without to see, rather than us just trust their euro cycle cough bullst cough tests...
Dave
I guess they have to keep a set of valves open so they arent re-compressing and re-expanding the same gas (or maybe they do, using the energy put into the gas from compression to bounce the piston back under expansion)... but whatever, they still have to send 4 dead weights, that now arent producing power, up n down so theres surely some frictional/mechanical losses to be incurred. Obviously its not additional loss, its always there, but you cant turn the losses off like you can the power. I would assume that the economy gains are noticable else it would be a waste of money to try employ. Would be cool to have some people on normal driving cycles try with/without to see, rather than us just trust their euro cycle cough bulls
t cough tests...Dave
But we all know they don't always approximate what users actually achieve. Maybe this technique is much more advantageous on the very gentle accelerations done on the test, which may not be seen in any accelerations the owners of these cars will use in day to day driving.
If these numbers on improvements were based on drivers out on the roads driving with it turned on/off without them knowing when it was on/off, then I'd see the results as being more indicative.
For now it's just like the test results for DSG being better than manual. It's technically there, but it's not actually there in real life.
Dave
Digga said:
thewheelman said:
Well opinions will vary. But compare it aesthetically to the 5 series GT, then the Audi becomes a very attractive option for those that want a large hatchback.
Every time I see one of those, a tiny bit of my brain (and we're talking fractions of a very small entity here) thinks "Christ, that must have been some rear-end shunt, from a fast-moving, heavily-laden HGV to do that to a 5 series saloon".Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff