Whats he doing?

[CalculatedRisk]

davidjpowell said:

Simbu said:

CalculatedRisk said:

I've watched a n0b decide he can tailgate an ambulance in a similar situation where there was almost gridlocked traffic a crash ahead and no hard shoulder... So I pulled out to block him within milliseconds of the ambulance passing and gave him the 'tosser' sign.. Yes very immature of me but what the hell was he thinking trying to snide his way past hundreds of people. Brownie points to anyone who can guess what manufacture vehicle he was driving.

Seriously? How is that a good idea?

Might have been a doctor in his own car? Or another member of the emergency services?

Either way, cutting people up under any circumsatances is not a good idea. Might i suggest you were the tosser in that situation...

Not very Caculated Risk. By experience (as I have been behind that ambulance), it is likely to be a member of family, a frantic dad etc. who has been told to follow close.

Hope your proud with yourself...

I explained earlier it was definetely not. It was just a fat baulding n0b trying to take advantage of the situation. He sat there like a mong after I cut him off.

[Rawwr]

Had a chap in a Transit try to do this neat little trick to me once. Didn't really work because a Suzuki GSX-R can get through awfully narrow gaps.

[Big Rod]

It doesn't matter if you merge early or late, (I tend to merge sooner rather than later), if everyone left a bit of room between them and the car in front, (in all lanes!), then the perceived barging and resultant queues wouldn't happen.

FWIW, I despise self appropriated queue/lane Nazis!

[CommanderJameson]

CalculatedRisk said:

I explained earlier it was definetely not. It was just a fat baulding n0b trying to take advantage of the situation. He sat there like a mong after I cut him off.

How do you know? Did you take his details, what with you being a member of the motorway police, and all?

[Johnnytheboy]

Big Rod said:

It doesn't matter if you merge early or late, (I tend to merge sooner rather than later), if everyone left a bit of room between them and the car in front, (in all lanes!), then the perceived barging and resultant queues wouldn't happen.

FWIW, I despise self appropriated queue/lane Nazis!

The trouble with everyone merging at different times is that those already in L1 experience a constant stream of people trying to get in front of them over an 800 yards stretch.

Which is probably why they get stty, as they may think that if they've let one car in they've 'done their bit'.

[Rawwr]

Johnnytheboy said:

The trouble with everyone merging at different times is that those already in L1 experience a constant stream of people trying to get in front of them over an 800 yards stretch.

I could understand how that would be annoying...

...in a race.

[StottyZr]

CommanderJameson said:

CalculatedRisk said:

I explained earlier it was definetely not. It was just a fat baulding n0b trying to take advantage of the situation. He sat there like a mong after I cut him off.

How do you know? Did you take his details, what with you being a member of the motorway police, and all?

To be fair to Calculated risk, it would be pretty obvious after causing the car to stop. If the driver screamed insults at the top of his voice and swerved past I would expect he was being told to follow the ambulance. If the driver stops and looks embarrassed then its pretty clear... Still a stupid thing to do though!

[sharpfocus]

They're not trying to get in front of them though. There is no queue!

[Alfanatic]

StottyZr said:

I believe the thought process would go.
1) I saw a sign didn't he see the sign? (I picture Michael Mcintyre saying this)

Probably, yes. Then he saw that he'd make better progress in the lane he's in as everyone else seems to be diving out of it.

StottyZr said:

2) If he saw the sign he knew the lane was closing
2b) Why is he in the lane, as he knew it was closing?

It's not closed yet. He's still free to use it. He's - maybe - choosing to do so because it's the most flowing lane of all of his options, so has no reason to move out of it yet and hinder his own progress. Or he also thinks that he should have merged, but is enjoying an opportunity to jump a queue.

StottyZr said:

3) Well, he's trying to "push in"

Is he? He could just be avoiding an obstructed lane for as long as possible, because he can. He's not stopping all those who pulled over early from doing the same thing, they chose instead to join the congestion as soon as they could. Not BMW man's fault. Saying that, though, some of them are being bullies though. I've come across a fair few drivers who don't even give others a chance to be courteous, but simply shove in an make their own space in all sorts of scenarios, then tailgate the person in front just in case another like-minded individual tries to get one over on them. Or perhaps they're not thinking that at all and that's how they drive on the continent. Or who knows?

StottyZr said:

4) I don't like bullies. I'm going to sit on the back bumper of the car infront and see if BMW mans looking at me. If he is, Ill stare at him a bit. If he gets mad I'll give him the finger.

How is he bullying you unless he's actually attempting to force you off the road or swerving in front of you? Would he even need to do this if he wasn't being squeezed out by tailgaters? Isn't it true that perhaps the tailgaters refusing to let him in doing the bullying? Isn't it possible to be polite, or a bully, on both sides of this debate?

StottyZr said:

I think PH disagree's with this, and I can only apologies if I've given you the finger

Although, If I am actually incorrect and I should just "open the door" then I apologise and I will do so in the future

My opinion is that you should just open the door. Can I honestly say I've never in 20 years tried to deny someone room to get in front of me when I thought they were trying to bully past me? Unfortunately not. Noone likes feeling like they've been taken advantage of. It's hard to tolerate both points of view all the time, and it can be hard sometimes just to let these things go even when, in the grand scheme, they are of no consequince to you if you don't act, and nothing positive will be achieved if you do.

Edited by Alfanatic on Monday 5th September 12:18

[Fox-]

I cannot begin to understand the limited intellectual capacity of the people who think a two lane dual carriageway queue should not be two lanes of queuing traffic but a single lane twice as long with a completely empty lane alongside.

So I drive down the empty lane in my BMW, watching the dim people carefully lest they lunge out in front of me, and then I merge when the lane I am driving begins to close, or when I see a gantry sign indicating the lane is closed.

Quite how anyone can argue this is anything other than correct, especially when its even in the highway code, I've no idea.

[Big Rod]

Johnnytheboy said:

Which is probably why they get stty, as they may think that if they've let one car in they've 'done their bit'.

Technically they have really, (the whole point of 'merge in turn') but there's no way to Police it I guess. I've reached the point where I don't let it get my back up and I'll let lone cars into the space I've left, but when a stream of them assume they've got access and try to squeeze in, they're taking the piss and I won't be quite so accomodating.

[PoleDriver]

utgjon said:

It's not your lane.

That's the problem! The mentality of Joe public says that "I pay road tax therefore I own the bit of road I'm driving on and can do what I like to defend it!"

Utter tts!