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Sifly said:
the best thing to do in these cases is to stick like glue to the bumper of the car infront and point blank refuse to let the selfish knobs in.
Ladies and gentlemen, may I present the actions of a peen...Zip merging is the correct thing to do, it's 'selfish knobs' who barge up to the bumper of the person in front who cause accidents, not the people using the road network as it was intended to be used.
I'd be a huge advocate of the funnel technique rather than the merge into one lane technique as it doesn't then give priority to either left or right lane, basically left hand lane has to merge into the centre, so does the right hand lane - thus forcing both drivers to comply, and nullifying the actions of idiots who feel that driving is a contest.
CalculatedRisk said:
I'm 100% sure it wasn't as it was a fat pot bellyed scruffy bloke in a black 3 series who I saw lane chopping left and right before the ambulance came about 5 minutes previous
Doesn't matter who it was, performing an aggressive 'blocking' move is likely to cause an accident and make the situation worse.Re: Mondeoman, he's also a bellend. If L3 isn't physically closed/blocked there's no reason not to use it. Blocking it off (or preventing merging) is just reducing the road capacity available unnecessarily and lengthening the queue.
CommanderJameson said:
nakulan7 said:
Accident in the M1 yesterday. Outside overtaking lane closed. Man in the mondeo pulls out and straddles both lanes. Smart aleck in BMW who was screaming down the now empty lane brakes behind him.
A lovely example of modern motorway driving in the British Isles.
Poor effort, BMW man.
Poor effort.
Mr Happy said:
Ladies and gentlemen, may I present the actions of a peen...
Zip merging is the correct thing to do, it's 'selfish knobs' who barge up to the bumper of the person in front who cause accidents, not the people using the road network as it was intended to be used.
I'd be a huge advocate of the funnel technique rather than the merge into one lane technique as it doesn't then give priority to either left or right lane, basically left hand lane has to merge into the centre, so does the right hand lane - thus forcing both drivers to comply, and nullifying the actions of idiots who feel that driving is a contest.
Boys and girls, may I present one of the ignorant, arrogant self important.............Zip merging is the correct thing to do, it's 'selfish knobs' who barge up to the bumper of the person in front who cause accidents, not the people using the road network as it was intended to be used.
I'd be a huge advocate of the funnel technique rather than the merge into one lane technique as it doesn't then give priority to either left or right lane, basically left hand lane has to merge into the centre, so does the right hand lane - thus forcing both drivers to comply, and nullifying the actions of idiots who feel that driving is a contest.
Funny how most drivers always manage to 'zip merge' in good time before the cones close off the lane without having to slow to a crawl! It's the idiots who refuse to merge in good time and then force their way in at the front that cause everyone elso (who's already 'zip merged') to have to stop and que.
Once had a National Express coach do exactly what the Mondeo did there.
Having blocked lane three, he stopped. Lane three was empty in front of him for a couple of hundred yards.
It baffles me why so few people understand how merging in turn serves to improve the traffic flow. We had signs up suggesting this on the Chesterfield ring road during extended roadworks and still nobody complied.
Having blocked lane three, he stopped. Lane three was empty in front of him for a couple of hundred yards.
It baffles me why so few people understand how merging in turn serves to improve the traffic flow. We had signs up suggesting this on the Chesterfield ring road during extended roadworks and still nobody complied.
Sifly said:
Boys and girls, may I present one of the ignorant, arrogant self important.............
Funny how most drivers always manage to 'zip merge' in good time before the cones close off the lane without having to slow to a crawl! It's the idiots who refuse to merge in good time and then force their way in at the front that cause everyone elso (who's already 'zip merged') to have to stop and que.
How far from the closure point was the OP's picture taken?Funny how most drivers always manage to 'zip merge' in good time before the cones close off the lane without having to slow to a crawl! It's the idiots who refuse to merge in good time and then force their way in at the front that cause everyone elso (who's already 'zip merged') to have to stop and que.
Oh wait, you have no idea. You zip-merge at the point where the lanes merge, otherwise you're wasting road space.
Sifly said:
Boys and girls, may I present one of the ignorant, arrogant self important.............
Funny how most drivers always manage to 'zip merge' in good time before the cones close off the lane without having to slow to a crawl! It's the idiots who refuse to merge in good time and then force their way in at the front that cause everyone elso (who's already 'zip merged') to have to stop and que.
So you'd merge a mile from the lane closure? Or 500 yards? Or 200 yards?Funny how most drivers always manage to 'zip merge' in good time before the cones close off the lane without having to slow to a crawl! It's the idiots who refuse to merge in good time and then force their way in at the front that cause everyone elso (who's already 'zip merged') to have to stop and que.
What constitutes 'in good time'?
Sifly said:
Mr Happy said:
Ladies and gentlemen, may I present the actions of a peen...
Zip merging is the correct thing to do, it's 'selfish knobs' who barge up to the bumper of the person in front who cause accidents, not the people using the road network as it was intended to be used.
I'd be a huge advocate of the funnel technique rather than the merge into one lane technique as it doesn't then give priority to either left or right lane, basically left hand lane has to merge into the centre, so does the right hand lane - thus forcing both drivers to comply, and nullifying the actions of idiots who feel that driving is a contest.
Boys and girls, may I present one of the ignorant, arrogant self important.............Zip merging is the correct thing to do, it's 'selfish knobs' who barge up to the bumper of the person in front who cause accidents, not the people using the road network as it was intended to be used.
I'd be a huge advocate of the funnel technique rather than the merge into one lane technique as it doesn't then give priority to either left or right lane, basically left hand lane has to merge into the centre, so does the right hand lane - thus forcing both drivers to comply, and nullifying the actions of idiots who feel that driving is a contest.
Funny how most drivers always manage to 'zip merge' in good time before the cones close off the lane without having to slow to a crawl! It's the idiots who refuse to merge in good time and then force their way in at the front that cause everyone elso (who's already 'zip merged') to have to stop and que.
I've driven past quite a few rear end shunts when 'your lot' try to close up the gap to block others from getting in, only to whack the car in front.
If anything, it's 'your lot' who cause the holdups in roadworks, not the drivers using the outer lane like they're meant to, to get to the merge point correctly!
I
in your general direction 
Meoricin said:
How far from the closure point was the OP's picture taken?
Oh wait, you have no idea. You zip-merge at the point where the lanes merge, otherwise you're wasting road space.
If you wait until the cones to merge, you have no flexibility to adjust your speed and blend in with the traffic in the open lane, so you have to slow and then stop at the cones. Then the moving open lane has to stop to let you in. So you end up with both lanes queing and fighting for position.Oh wait, you have no idea. You zip-merge at the point where the lanes merge, otherwise you're wasting road space.
How hard can it be?.............. when you see the 'lane closed 600 yards' sign, adjust your speed, find a gap and merge, or let a car in from the closing lane. Then by the time you get to the closure, there is no traffic left in the closed lane, so no need to slow or stop! Everyone keeps moving, everyone is happy! Simples......
Sifly said:
The whole reason the que is so bad, is because of 
like the guy in the BMW who barge down the empty 'closed' lane only to force their way in and hold everyone else up who has had the sense and respect for other drivers to filter into the open lanes in good time!! 
Who the hell do these people think they are? Good job most drivers don't have their selfish attitude or the we would be in a right mess!
I can understand the mondeo drivers annoyance, but the best thing to do in these cases is to stick like glue to the bumper of the car infront and point blank refuse to let the selfish knobs in. Of course, theres always some clueless person who has no idea, road sense or dignity, who lets the offenders 'bully' their way in.
Then theres the's who take to the hard shoulder instead of queing?!! I love it when u see them half a mile up the road being invited into the back of a traffic car!! 
You do understand the latest versions of the highway code say to use the full width of the carriageway until the obstruction... like the guy in the BMW who barge down the empty 'closed' lane only to force their way in and hold everyone else up who has had the sense and respect for other drivers to filter into the open lanes in good time!! Who the hell do these people think they are? Good job most drivers don't have their selfish attitude or the we would be in a right mess!
I can understand the mondeo drivers annoyance, but the best thing to do in these cases is to stick like glue to the bumper of the car infront and point blank refuse to let the selfish knobs in. Of course, theres always some clueless person who has no idea, road sense or dignity, who lets the offenders 'bully' their way in.
Then theres the
's who take to the hard shoulder instead of queing?!! I love it when u see them half a mile up the road being invited into the back of a traffic car!! Sifly said:
Then the moving open lane has to stop to let you in. So you end up with both lanes queing and fighting for position.
Fighting only occurs where people are wkers and don't alternate effectively (because they have to be "first" to get wherever they're going in the imaginary race that people seem to be in when driving and courtesy for other road users is called for) - as in "filtering" properly.Obstructing what small amount of flow there is, is multiplied further back. I too spend a lot of time on motorways and it's rarely just the accident that causes a jam. It's this sort of crap.
Taking to the hard shoulder or in any way obstructing it when you are not having an emergency yourself or directed do so by a police officer is potentially hazardous for who you might block getting to the scene of an accident where someone may be in critical condition and every second is counting. It's probably an offence in itself, although the Plod nearby will probably be occupied.
If someone wants to be a bell-end and chase an emergency vehicle up the hard shoulder, let them - they'll either have a legitimate reason for doing so that you may be unaware of, else they'll just run into a cop car or two and get dealt with accordingly. You are Joe Public, not traffic police. Look after your own actions and let others go about theirs, it's not a competition to be won or lost.
Sifly said:
How hard can it be?.....
Very, evidently. Edited by Zwoelf on Sunday 4th September 00:46
Mr Happy said:
Why thank you, 9000+ miles of motorway driving in 6 weeks means I've hit quite a few coned off lanes and seen quite a few peen type actions from 'your lot' to know that they cause more accidents than merging correctly at the merge point (y'know, where it says "MERGE IN TURN" in big black letters on the yellow signage).
I've driven past quite a few rear end shunts when 'your lot' try to close up the gap to block others from getting in, only to whack the car in front.
If anything, it's 'your lot' who cause the holdups in roadworks, not the drivers using the outer lane like they're meant to, to get to the merge point correctly!
I in your general direction
So why do they put up the signs, lane closed in 800, 600, 400, 200 yards? Is this for people to ignore and flog on until they run out of lane? Or is it a bit of a clue??? ie. 'you might want to think about moving out of this lane now as it will shortly be comming to an end'!!I've driven past quite a few rear end shunts when 'your lot' try to close up the gap to block others from getting in, only to whack the car in front.
If anything, it's 'your lot' who cause the holdups in roadworks, not the drivers using the outer lane like they're meant to, to get to the merge point correctly!
I
in your general direction I pitty your self importance......
Sifly said:
Mr Happy said:
Why thank you, 9000+ miles of motorway driving in 6 weeks means I've hit quite a few coned off lanes and seen quite a few peen type actions from 'your lot' to know that they cause more accidents than merging correctly at the merge point (y'know, where it says "MERGE IN TURN" in big black letters on the yellow signage).
I've driven past quite a few rear end shunts when 'your lot' try to close up the gap to block others from getting in, only to whack the car in front.
If anything, it's 'your lot' who cause the holdups in roadworks, not the drivers using the outer lane like they're meant to, to get to the merge point correctly!
I in your general direction
So why do they put up the signs, lane closed in 800, 600, 400, 200 yards? Is this for people to ignore and flog on until they run out of lane? Or is it a bit of a clue??? ie. 'you might want to think about moving out of this lane now as it will shortly be comming to an end'!!I've driven past quite a few rear end shunts when 'your lot' try to close up the gap to block others from getting in, only to whack the car in front.
If anything, it's 'your lot' who cause the holdups in roadworks, not the drivers using the outer lane like they're meant to, to get to the merge point correctly!
I
in your general direction I pitty your self importance......
Highway Code Rule 134 said:
You should follow the signs and road markings and get into the lane as directed. In congested road conditions do not change lanes unnecessarily. Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe and appropriate when vehicles are travelling at a very low speed, e.g. when approaching road works or a road traffic incident. It is not recommended at high speed.
Don't change lanes unnecessarily - so if I'm in lane 2, you're in lane 1 - I'm going to continue in lane 2, then merging in turn when approaching road works or a RTC. I'm not going to do it at anything over 20mph, as I'm not a div, however nowhere does it say that you have to close up the gap if in lane 1 to prevent others doing so.Therefore you and the actions you are carrying out, are wrong.
The only time it is verboten to continue in the lane you are in, is on a motorway when the gantry signs give the red X - that means 'Lane Closed' and you must not continue in that lane. Countdown signs are simply a countdown and nothing more.
Sifly said:
So why do they put up the signs, lane closed in 800, 600, 400, 200 yards? Is this for people to ignore and flog on until they run out of lane? Or is it a bit of a clue??? ie. 'you might want to think about moving out of this lane now as it will shortly be comming to an end'!!
I pitty your self importance......
That's for when traffic is flowing at speed. When the traffic slows & stops people should queue in all open lanes & merge at the lane closure. I pitty your self importance......
Driving home from Devon earlier today i was behind an X5 who was behind a wker in a Shogun who was towing (very badly) a horse box.
tt in the Shogun drove at 25 miles an our for over 20 miles along windy roads on which overtaking is almost impossible (i use the stretch of road on a regular basis so i know the road very well).
There is however one 500 yard stretch where it is sometimes possible to overtake if the car has enough power - which the X5 did.
So the X5 driver indicates to overtake & what does the wker in the Shogun do?
He waits until the X5 has pulled out to overtake & he slowly but deliberatly veers over to the right to block the X5's overtake!!
Luckily the X5 driver realised what the Shogun tt was doing, as did i, so a nasty accident was narrowly avoided.
When we were finally able to pass the tt in the Shogun he gave us all the middle finger knowing just what a fking moron he had been.
If - Mr Shogun tt - you should be reading this you are a prick.
ker in a Shogun who was towing (very badly) a horse box.t
t in the Shogun drove at 25 miles an our for over 20 miles along windy roads on which overtaking is almost impossible (i use the stretch of road on a regular basis so i know the road very well).There is however one 500 yard stretch where it is sometimes possible to overtake if the car has enough power - which the X5 did.
So the X5 driver indicates to overtake & what does the w
ker in the Shogun do?He waits until the X5 has pulled out to overtake & he slowly but deliberatly veers over to the right to block the X5's overtake!!
Luckily the X5 driver realised what the Shogun t
t was doing, as did i, so a nasty accident was narrowly avoided.When we were finally able to pass the t
t in the Shogun he gave us all the middle finger knowing just what a fking moron he had been.If - Mr Shogun t
t - you should be reading this you are a prick.
CalculatedRisk said:
It doesn't look like you're central to the lane you're in either 
I've watched a n0b decide he can tailgate an ambulance in a similar situation where there was almost gridlocked traffic a crash ahead and no hard shoulder... So I pulled out to block him within milliseconds of the ambulance passing and gave him the 'tosser' sign.. Yes very immature of me but what the hell was he thinking trying to snide his way past hundreds of people. Brownie points to anyone who can guess what manufacture vehicle he was driving.
Good on you sir! I was in a traffic jam in Ilford (you can guess where this is going) and some tI've watched a n0b decide he can tailgate an ambulance in a similar situation where there was almost gridlocked traffic a crash ahead and no hard shoulder... So I pulled out to block him within milliseconds of the ambulance passing and gave him the 'tosser' sign.. Yes very immature of me but what the hell was he thinking trying to snide his way past hundreds of people. Brownie points to anyone who can guess what manufacture vehicle he was driving.
t decided to tailgate an ambulance on a shout problem was the moron didn't anticipate the ambulance having to slam the anchors on and went straight into the back of it. These people really are fkwits.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff